shark6495 Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 You walk in and a roof shingle hits you in the head, you ask for medical bills paid, you find yourself having to pay KK 300k for spreading bad rumors..... Man not sure how this could go any worse. So far we know that 2 people got hurt because they may have been given the wrong raft. One of those people states he just wants medical bills paid. But Ed Hart says he has an unmentioned friend who says they are just trying to make a quick buck. Also he said they weighed too much and should have known better.... Imagine if the Superman Tower incident would have happened on his watch.... We are saying it's not our fault because you kicked your legs out..... When the cable broke at CP who paid those medical bills? 4 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Well, it IS the same Ed Hart who runs a park in Louisville who thought putting in another drop ride was an excellent idea.... 6 Quote
upstop Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I just have a weird vibe about all this. It's almost like they are spouting all of this information and their intentions intentionally knowing that it's bad PR for the park. 4 Quote
shark6495 Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 Have you seen the Producers? We can more money with a flop than a hit!!! 4 Quote
bkroz Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 ^^ The weirdest part is that PR can be done right pretty simply. That's not to say people in PR don't work hard and can't make a HUGE difference because they can and do. But having normal, average, fine PR is not nearly as hard as Kentucky Kingdom is making it. They're creating mountains out of molehills so to speak. No comment is an acceptable answer in some situations where Kentucky Kingdom has, inexplicably, insisted on commenting. See that early close where they apologized for closing due to weather, publicly stating on their Facebook page that they should've stayed open but there had been miscommunications and fumbles among managers. "Whoops!" Come back next time! they said. It won't happen again! Where a comment has been necessitated, Kentucky Kingdom has given two or three as they go through various levels of rewriting and reposting, all in the public eye! Speedos and security guards, breastfeeding, ADA compliance, Drop Towers, untrained employees, miscommunications among management, "Whoops!," water park rafts, September closure, failing to meet expected attendance, $5 admission (kind of), "no comment, but..." On and on. Each of those topics and Kentucky Kingdom's "response" could fuel a week of discussion in an introductory PR class. And that's to say nothing of the political and tax discussions leading up to the park's financing and continuing to this day and on to next fall. 7 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 24, 2014 Posted October 24, 2014 I beg to differ. The problem is NOT the PR people, but rather the client. Mr. Hart, being the part showman/part tycoon-tyrant that he is, is getting the EXACT PR he wants. Note many of the missteps and zany statements have been his, or those of his crony/pal/co-investor attorney friend Glasscock. If the PR people were not doing exactly what Mr. Hart expects and demands, he'd dismiss them in a heartbeat. They are doing an excellent job of doing exactly what he wants. With Mr. Hart, if you are not a sniveling, bowing, yes-person toady, you won't last long. 7 Quote
silver2005 Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 This theory may sound ludicrous, but its the only thing I can think of for an explanation. Could Ed Hart be making comments to show, in a way only Mr. Hart could think of, that the park is tougher on its crime problems? Not that its smart by any means. 2 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 25, 2014 Posted October 25, 2014 An amusing (?) thought: If Terp had to work for one or the other, where would he last longer: working for Dick Kinzel or for Ed Hart? The mind boggles. 7 Quote
RailRider Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Speedos and security guards, breastfeeding, ADA compliance, Drop Towers, untrained employees, miscommunications among management, "Whoops!," water park rafts, September closure, failing to meet expected attendance, $5 admission (kind of), "no comment, but..." On and on. Each of those topics and Kentucky Kingdom's "response" could fuel a week of discussion in an introductory PR class. And that's to say nothing of the political and tax discussions leading up to the park's financing and continuing to this day and on to next fall. Funny these have all been major discussion points and case studies for the marketing classes I teach. Textbooks don't even write material this perfect. 4 Quote
KIBeast Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Maybe my prediction of bulldozers may come true after all...if Mr. Hart continues with these antics. Who will want to visit knowing he has anything to do with KK? In answer to your question, Terp, you would probably rather be in the unemployment line than either of those two. Quote
Diamondbacker Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 ^^ i'm really tempted now to take a minor in PR and teach a class on this season. Title? 'What Not To Do in PR: Amusement Park Edition'. Who wants to be a guest speaker? 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 The two Eds--Hart and Glasscock? Both seem to enjoy hearing themselves talk. 3 Quote
silver2005 Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 How much say does the Fair Board have in the Kingdom's operations? I imagine they can't be happy with all the things we've been seeing. Quote
Dieseltech20 Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 Well, as long as they get their money, I doubt.....oh.....wait. 3 Quote
rhyano Posted October 28, 2014 Posted October 28, 2014 lets just hope this park stays open, i would hate to have all that reconstruction done for nothing... 2 Quote
TheBEASTunchained Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Kentucky Kingdom on Facebook: "Red is the new black." Pictures : Kentucky Kingdom via Facebook 6 Quote
westcoaster Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Well if they fail which I'm hoping not maybe Lego Kingdom (Lego Land first seasonal Park,) Of course with a Brick or Treat, a Snowy Holiday celebration it could and would be more Year Round. 1 Quote
westcoaster Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 Of Course I'm in a Brick kind of mood, lately, but to Kentucky Kingdom. Quote
rhyano Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 I feel like the only one that has not given this park criticism Quote
homestar92 Posted November 4, 2014 Posted November 4, 2014 ^ There's a lot about that park to be criticized for sure. That's not to say there aren't things to be praised (Thunder Run <3) but operationally, that park's management looks clueless at best. The decision to install a Drop Tower still boggles my mind a year later. Stay tuned, folks. Tonight is a fairly important evening for the Kingdom. Not as important as November 3rd, 2015, but important nonetheless. 7 Quote
jcgoble3 Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 Kentucky Kingdom on Facebook: "Red is the new black." Hopefully this is only a reference to T3, and not a reference to their bottom line. 13 Quote
stashua123 Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 Looks like this will be a major night for the kingdom. With how easily McConnell won the coal mining areas, this does not look good for the democrat.(which is the party that supports the kingdom) 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 Three years ago, His Royal Talks A Lot said: http://www.wdrb.com/story/14395265/what-is-going-to-happen-to-kentucky-kingdom The state election is next year. It is highly unlikely incentives in place would be revoked. But getting any more could become far more difficult. Mostly because Ed's partner is a former high Democrat official and ran against newly re-elected Senator Mitch McConnell. That will not be forgotten. November 2015 is coming... 2 Quote
KIBeast Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 Not liking a solid red coaster. Looks ridiculous. I guess they spent money elsewhere that could've been spent on ideas for a different paint scheme than solid red. Quote
The Interpreter Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 T2 was originally that red. Mr. Hart wants it that color. End of decision. What's to research? Dissent within that organization is grounds for immediate termination. Why would anyone risk it? Quote
RailRider Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Once again lets remind people of how horrible T2 is as a ride, not rename it, paint it a new color scheme and put new trains on it to give park guests a new experience. Instead red worked in the past so lets do that. Just like we had a Drop Tower once and it was popular till it maimed a young girl. Lets put in a new one. Compare Cedar Points treatment of new paint and trains on Mantis to that of T2. Well played Mr. Hart, 5 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 Once again lets remind people of how horrible T2 is as a ride, not rename it, paint it a new color scheme and put new trains on it to give park guests a new experience. Instead red worked in the past so lets do that. Just like we had a Drop Tower once and it was popular till it maimed a young girl. Lets put in a new one. Compare Cedar Points treatment of new paint and trains on Mantis to that of T2. Well played Mr. Hart, But I like the new Drop Tower... 2 Quote
shark6495 Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 The new Drop Tower may be nice, but I think the point is WHY. In the first year of reopening, why even risk putting that weird/horrible memory back into people's minds. 4 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted November 6, 2014 Posted November 6, 2014 I get what you are saying but I doubt there is much you can do to make the locals forget that accident. The same argument could be made that if there was an accident on a roller coaster at a particular park, they should never build another one. Or even worse yet, when you have all the urban legends about people that were "killed" on the original Bat or Son of Beast when no such thing ever happened. Some things are just going to to be stuck in peoples' minds regardless. I can see where the addition of a Drop Tower at KK can seem a bit stupid and or ballsy, but I think people would still remember that terrible day for the park and that young lady regardless if they had put in Fear Fall. Just my 2 cents. 2 Quote
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