KI FANATIC 37 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I highly doubt Son of Beast remembers much or anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 cuase he got his memory wiped out because of the accident. Badum shhhhh! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 And even steel coasters "wobble" a bit when those heavy trains go across their tracks, for example, here is a music video of our own B&M Hypercoaster, Diamondback... Watch the track closely during the "yellow-ish" scene around the 1:30 mark...it isn't much, but it does "wobble" a bit there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 But does it wooble? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KI-ORIG-EMP Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Everything wobbles, even people. Well maybe not a wobble, but a jiggle here and there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I saw The Wiggles at Great Adventure, but management changed and they woobled away! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 If roller coasters didn't wobble at all , Then I think they would be Too stiff and not make the same ride expirience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 They wouldn't stand for long. Harmonic vibrations and such. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 But does it wooble? If it woobles, I think they should just taer it down. I'm not sure. It's just a theroy. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benred23 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 In other news, Weebles Wobble, but they don't fall down.. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 And the Tacoma narrows! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 This is proably what Son of Beast was like 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Weebles wobble, but they don't fall down. That brings back memories. I had a Weeble Disneyland castle/ set as a child. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Didn't a forensics investigator (Rick Schmizze) who looked over the ride after the 2006 incident find loose bolts he could unscrew by hand? I would think that would be a clear sign it swayed too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Didn't a forensics investigator (Rick Schmizze) who looked over the ride after the 2006 incident find loose bolts he could unscrew by hand? I would think that would be a clear sign it swayed too much. Well after the incident many bolts may have been loose. Many times in wood structures the bolts are tight when the structure is good, but when the structure fails, many other bolts will be come loose because of the lack of force on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXDrummerKiDXx Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Okay, I know this is off topic (To the conversation above), but has there been any changes to SOB yet? I'M WAITING!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastrider97 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Some more dust has settled on it. In all honesty, when something happens, I'm sure you'll find out without asking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 ^^ Don't worry buddy, I feel the anxiousness upon me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiPugs Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I would say they will probably start this week. I'm sure the demo company will want to get it down before the cold weather sets in, plus with the park closed weekdays, they can get SOB down in a more productive manner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayblazer Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 I tried to go to ki yesterday but was turned away.. I forgot it was closed for private event. So I drove around the back of great wolf lodge again there is a service road I believe Kings Island owns there. There are some buildings marked as "Kings Island green house" but any way from there you get a pretty good view of SOB. And I couldnt see anything happening yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Didn't a forensics investigator (Rick Schmizze) who looked over the ride after the 2006 incident find loose bolts he could unscrew by hand? I would think that would be a clear sign it swayed too much. A few loose bolts on any structure/ machine sounds dramatic, but is not that unusual due to the constant vibration. SoB had SEVERE vibration that not only caused loose bolts, but numerous issues, including contributing to the support failure that resulted in guest injuries.It should be understood- loose bolts will not cause a structure to sway. They are engineered to sway. If there was no "give" in a structure, it would fall down like a house of cards. Even the Empire State building "gives" about 1.5 inches. The antenna on top of the CN Tower will sway 3.5'. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 This could go in a few topics, but seems appropriate here: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Didn't a forensics investigator (Rick Schmizze) who looked over the ride after the 2006 incident find loose bolts he could unscrew by hand? I would think that would be a clear sign it swayed too much. A few loose bolts on any structure/ machine sounds dramatic, but is not that unusual due to the constant vibration. SoB had SEVERE vibration that not only caused loose bolts, but numerous issues, including contributing to the support failure that resulted in guest injuries.It should be understood- loose bolts will not cause a structure to sway. They are engineered to sway. If there was no "give" in a structure, it would fall down like a house of cards. Even the Empire State building "gives" about 1.5 inches. The antenna on top of the CN Tower will sway 3.5'. I was referring to the fact that the over-swaying of the structure was the cause of the loose bolts. I realized coaster structures need to sway, but no coaster should sway enough to cause the ride to literally come apart. There has to be SOME sort of standard which SOB obviously didn't follow. One thing I was told on The Beast tour from Don was the reason structures like Texas Giant, Mean Streak and SOB become rough. Those curves taken at altitudes topping 100 ft are things a wooden structure isn't made to really withstand long term. There's tremendous forces from a multi-ton train going at 60+ mph on curves that high. Its something John Allen believed in his design techniques. Notice on his rides, high curves are taken at slower speeds. Also, the 2nd tallest hills on his ride have small curves that bleed momentum leading up to them, also to reduce stress on the higher structures (like the humps you see on Racer). Look at how Voyage has needed all that re-tracking these past few years, and its less than 10 years old (not that its a bad ride, just that the structures might be flawed a tad with high altitude curves taken at high speeds). Simply put, wood coasters aren't made to do things steel coasters can do when it comes to curved drops or ascensions. GCI's seem to get away from it as most are only 100 ft tall or so, or have structures that don't go beyond those heights. I would even guess the Intamin pre-fab woodies like El Toro with the high curves it has might suffer eventually, though we have yet to see that since most still ride very well currently (I haven't heard anyone having a bad ride on one lately). Add in the fact that RCCA' structures seem like they were randomly piling wood and the corner cutting Paramount did, and you get the disaster that was Son of Beast. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I was referring to the fact that the over-swaying of the structure was the cause of the loose bolts. I realized coaster structures need to sway, but no coaster should sway enough to cause the ride to literally come apart. There has to be SOME sort of standard which SOB obviously didn't follow. There were not "some" but "many" standards that were not followed. I'm not sure if you know this: SoB's accident was not caused from swaying or loose bolts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 But does it wooble? If it woobles, I think they should just taer it down. I'm not sure. It's just a theroy. Let me see you wobble! (We danced to this song all the ti me at my church camp along with a few others, man, good times.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiPugs Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Wow can't believe this thread hasn't been touched in 4 days. Wonder when demo is going to start. Maybe some updates this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Yes I know I'm late to this but here is some more wobble footage from Diamondback 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhimes90 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I just passed KI and there's now a crane visible in SOB ride area. Couldn't see any visible work though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Cerrano Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I just passed KI and there's now a crane visible in SOB ride area. Couldn't see any visible work though. nhimes beat me to it. Was out at lunch and saw the crane but no visible work. Took a photo with my phone but it didnt turn out that great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiPugs Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Lets get some pictures 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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