Outdoor Man Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 sorry about the resolution of that video; it was terrible- but the only one that showed the demo from that angle. Cinergy came down without so much as breaking one window on the new ballpark. ... and you're welcome. Quote
ObiPugs Posted September 4, 2012 Posted September 4, 2012 Any updates? Anyone here see any activity on SOB deconstruction this past weekend? Quote
Original Posted September 4, 2012 Posted September 4, 2012 ^^Nope, I was there yesterday and didnt see too much. But I got some last pictures of it! Quote
Shawn Meyer Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 Maybe they don't want to show the construction equipment just yet. They don't want us enthusiasts to get too excited! 2 Quote
thatbandguy8807 Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 honnestly i feel like they wont start much of the construction until after the park has closed for the post season. especially since they are keeping wolf pack for this season of haunt. but i would think before they did anything they would take out some of the easier parts first, like the chain to the lift and all the electrical aspects if they havent yet. but of course i dont know anything about demolition. it will be weird to see just that whole area open though when it is down. either way im excited because this means a new page is being turned for Kings Island and another coaster in the history books. honnestly, i dont think people will forget about SOB since it was a world breaker and a prototype. 1 Quote
Jayblazer Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 I just drove past and even went around the back of Great Wolf lodge and there was no signs of demolition that I could see. :-( 1 Quote
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Is it just me or is KI still using Sonny in their ads? 1 Quote
standbyme Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 ^This was posted in the Random Photo thread...here is what TombRaiderFTW posted: I'm thinking it's actually a horizontally mirrored picture of Renegade at Valleyfair. No one disputed his theory. Quote
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Aww the one thread I didn't think to check. I looked in this one and the gold pass thread. Quote
Shaggy Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Actually it would be very easy to do controlled demo on a wood coaster. You obviously aren't familiar with the story of "The Rocket" at Ocean View Park. Ocean View Park was a seaside amusement park in Norfolk Virginia that lasted through the 1970s. It ultimately fell on hard times and the land became more valuable than the park's revenue (the park had become run-down, crime ridden and percieved by locals as a monstrosity when compared to the newly opened Buch Gardens in Williamsburg just 45 minutes away) thus the land was sold to developers. The park, in it's next-to-last season, was featured in the movie "RollerCoaster" where it's Rocket rollercoaster was the scene of a (staged) devistating mishap... a "mad bombing and train de-railment." (The park was chosen as the scene of the "bombing/de-railment" due to it's nearing it's closure and there were no concerns over any "bad press" a staged mishap in a film would cause the park.) The next year, the park closed and Holywood came calling. It was chosen as the site of a infamous made-for-tv movie called "The Death of Ocean View Park." This was a tale of an amusement park built on grounds that were collapsing/eroding. The movie culminated with the collapse/explosion of the entire park (with guests inside, of course) in a large spectacular fashion at the end of the movie. In reality, the land owners were approached by the network to have the demolition filmed for the disaster movie (which were popular at the time) and they agreed as the cost of the park's demolition would be covered by the network. For the filming, the Rocket Coaster was imploded with large amounts of dynamite... everything was set up as a "controlled demolition" and it went off without a hitch. Wrong Actually it went off with a BIG hitch. The coaster didn't collapse. Actually it stood firm through several takes and implosions over several days. Ultimately, bulldozers were brought in after many attempts and the coaster met it's maker on film with the help of construction vehicles pulling it apart out of view of the cameras. (Even so, it only came down after the supports had been chain-sawed from the footings.) The lesson learned was that the coaster structure was not as suceptable to an implosion as concrete structures are. That's why you don't see coasters being imploded... it really doesn't work. I remember the filming like it was yesterday. I was a wee lad living in Hampton Roads nearby, and my family had been to the park. The closure/demolition was big local news, was viewed by onlookers and ultimately captured and viewed on film. I saw the original broadcast of the show, and remember watching it like it was yesterday. I've not seen it since, and am not sure if it's on DVD. Bottom line, I don't think a "controlled demolition" would work for SOB... it's been tried before. 8 Quote
Shaggy Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 I just surfed and found the following videos related to the implosion of the Rocket. 2 Quote
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Again more insightful posts from Shaggy. Thanks for the educational lesson. I am quite surprised a controlled demo would not work on a coaster Quote
stashua123 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 has anyone else noticed how small the new trains look? this one speaks"im bad to the bone!" But this one speaks"im drawfed help me! Sorry if the pics are big. Still gettin used to postin pictures Quote
KI FANATIC 37 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 When you say new trains do you mean the ones that were put on in 07? If so,yes, that was one of the problems with the original ride. The trains were to heavy for the track and it was slowly destroying the tracks. But they needed those heavier train for the loop. So inorder to get lighter (smaller) trains, they needed to take out the loop. Quote
DaveWorldEmperor Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 The older trains looked so cool. Quote
KI FANATIC 37 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I agree. They were a lot cooler looking. I love the color scheme... Quote
kblanken Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 Shaggy's post makes me more convinced than ever before that wooden coasters are sentient beings. Quote
RollerNut Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 It doesnt surprise me that the Ocean View Rocket defied implosion, coasters are designed to restand stresses that buildings will never have to like a 1 ton plus coaster train racing down a drop at speed. The forces placed on riders have to absorbed through the structure which 1 ton time 3(Gs) is 3 tons. Quote
LongliveKingsCobra Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 It doesnt surprise me that the Ocean View Rocket defied implosion, coasters are designed to restand stresses that buildings will never have to like a 1 ton plus coaster train racing down a drop at speed. The forces placed on riders have to absorbed through the structure which 1 ton time 3(Gs) is 3 tons. Well, Son of Beast was always a rebel I 'spose! (I hope this reads the way I want it to) Quote
Browntggrr Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 It doesnt surprise me that the Ocean View Rocket defied implosion, coasters are designed to restand stresses that buildings will never have to like a 1 ton plus coaster train racing down a drop at speed. The forces placed on riders have to absorbed through the structure which 1 ton time 3(Gs) is 3 tons. Don't mention this to some people.They will still make an attempt to convince you SoB could be seen falling apart while traveling 20+ mph from a considerable distance. I wonder where those folks went? hmmmmm..... 3 Quote
Tanna Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I don't know much about roller coasters, BrownT, but I thought it looked rickety as hell. Quote
The Interpreter Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 When you say new trains do you mean the ones that were put on in 07? If so,yes, that was one of the problems with the original ride. The trains were to heavy for the track and it was slowly destroying the tracks. But they needed those heavier train for the loop. So inorder to get lighter (smaller) trains, they needed to take out the loop. As I have posted many times before, the loop may have necessitated the original trains, but heavy trains were not being sought. Manufacturers' recommendations and decisions as to availabilty resulted in those trains premiering on the ride. Quote
stashua123 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 at 2:11-2:14 you see Son of Beast on its first drop.... wobbling! Quote
TombRaiderFTW Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 If we're talking about coasters wobbling, then let's throw this for a loop, shall we? FTW, not making a Son of Beast pun, actually. All structures do that; our perception of it just depends on what force is causing it and what its magnitude is. There are videos of tall Japanese buildings swaying widely during the earthquakes in 2011. 2 Quote
stashua123 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 in my book thats considerded unsafe woobling . Quote
kblanken Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I hope that book isn't about physics or engineering. :/ 6 Quote
beastrider97 Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 in my book thats considerded unsafe woobling . It is safe. In fact, without that wobbling, the ride would be much less safe. 1 Quote
TheBEASTunchained Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 at 2:11-2:14 you see Son of Beast on its first drop.... wobbling! All roller coasters... wobble! If you look at the clip of The Racer right before Son of Beast Very, Very closely, the sides of The Racer wobble. Quote
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted September 7, 2012 Posted September 7, 2012 I wonder if Sonny remembers how to do the wobble since it's been so long. 3 Quote
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