Coney Islander Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I'm far from up to date on the "Bluegrass Boardwalk fiasco." Might this of been planned as a preemptive strike to discourage Kentucky Kingdom's reopening, or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 ^ I'm not sure on that. Ed Hart said he thought it was, the Koch's say they really did mean to re-open and run KK, and they would be the only ones to know for sure. However, I'm leaning towards the Koch's telling the truth here. I also think the large expansion coming this year could be coming from some of the money the Koch's had built up for the BGBW project, but since that failed it could be going into Holiday World instead...and I have the strangest feeling they might have had more than $6.5M saved up for BGBW...which is good news for hopes of a new steel coaster going in at Holiday World. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Rides are typically contracted quite far in advance. A teacup here, a slide there..., Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 ^ Yeah, probably...but, even if not now, I do still think the BGBW money could probably go into Holiday World at some point...unless the Koch's try buying another park soon, that is...in which case, that is where the BGBW money will probably go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckeye Brad Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 "Preemptive strike"? Of course. If KK is to reopen, it's quite logical the Koch Development Corp. would like to be the ones doing it. A better, more timely proposal increases the chances of this happening. "...to discourage Kentucky Kingdom's reopening" I don't see any evidence for this. Look at how aggressively HW and SS have been expanding their business....Voyage, Thanksgiving section, two huge water coasters, Happy Halloween Weekends, etc. It's only natural they would want to expand to another park at some point. They know the Louisville market, it's close to home, KK is similar in size to their own park, and KK was "on sale". Seems to me like a great opportunity to expand. In my opinion, they underestimated both the money needed to refurbish everything, and the government red tape that prevented them from striking a favorable deal. Another thing...even if the Koch's didn't plan to reopen it, I don't see how their bid prevents another party from submitting a bid. Why wouldn't the Louisville government entertain any serious proposal? All my opinion of course. I'm sure much goes on in the "war rooms" of these organizations that I will never know about. Or don't really care to know about. ;^) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nemo Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Holiday World really seems to know what they're doing So true! HW just seems to understand their customers by thinking of the small things... not the larger. Sometimes you don't need to add a second wavepool... just more shade, a small family ride, and shows. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 8. New after-dark light show for summer nights Presumably this will require the park to be open then, making this good news for people who want night coaster rides and aren't able to come to HoliWood Nights or in the fall. 5. Pilgrims Plunge "moving" to Splashin' Safari with a new name: Giraffica As-is, it's a rather "dry" ride, especially for a water park. Perhaps they'll look East add some spitting giraffes after the flume. Then there's that long walk connecting Giraffica+RhinoBlaster+future expansion to the rest of Splashin' Safari. This is a park that pays attention to details, so I'm sure we'll see some changes along that route now that it's "in" the water park. (Misters, shade, and seating?) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flightoffear1996 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 That slide on the far left looks awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Sounds like great additions to me! Based on the schedule expansion, it sounds like Happy Halloween Weekends has been relatively successful (which I was hoping for, as that's a fun little event.) Also, it would be wonderful if the park's hours extended into the evenings during the summer for the light show, because I've been dying to try any of the coasters after dark but haven't ever been able to make it to Holiwood Nights. I'm curious to know how further expansion of/beyond Thanksgiving will happen now if Pilgrim's Plunge is being annexed to Splashin' Safari. (They're not physically moving the ride, right?) I've read somewhere before that long-term plans for the park will make Thanksgiving the centerpiece of Holiday World, so I'm just wondering where else they could go with the paths. I always thought they'd extend over the tunnel from Splashin' Safari for Pilgrim's Plunge and continue adding rides, etc. beyond the ride, but that's where Rhino Blaster is going. Maybe they'll extend to the east of PP? Also, here's hoping the Splashin' Safari entrance remodel will expand the nearby path to Thanksgiving (or at least improve the flow.) That thing congests pretty bad around opening when everyone's trying to get to SS. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Overall, the new additions look nice. Glad to see SS getting something other than a watercoaster and cabanas. I do question the use of open-air straight sections on the water slides. Looks like a way to make it better somehow, although it should help with chlorine ventilation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 I love it. Everything. I may have to consider more trips to HW next year other than just HoliWood Nights if I can afford it. Going just once a year really isn't often enough for as good of a park as HW. I'm curious to know how further expansion of/beyond Thanksgiving will happen now if Pilgrim's Plunge is being annexed to Splashin' Safari. (They're not physically moving the ride, right?) I've read somewhere before that long-term plans for the park will make Thanksgiving the centerpiece of Holiday World, so I'm just wondering where else they could go with the paths. I always thought they'd extend over the tunnel from Splashin' Safari for Pilgrim's Plunge and continue adding rides, etc. beyond the ride, but that's where Rhino Blaster is going. Maybe they'll extend to the east of PP? From the blog post: This northeast portion of the park, by the way, will be the future site of expansion for both parks. Stay tuned as we add incredible new rides to both parks in years to come! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Sorry for double posting, but I just noticed something else thanks to someone on the HW Facebook page. AmaZoom and Bamboo Chute (the two slides near the entrance to the waterpark), as well as Congo River, no longer appear on the website. Are they being removed to make way for the new entrance plaza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 That's about an hour before I normally get up for work! That is the hour before I get off of work! Third Shift Blues! haha Since it was posted at 3 am our time that means i still had 2 hours of work left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOFreak Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 That would make perfect sence to take down those two slides because frankly, they just are not fun anymore. Almost painful sometimes. That would definitely open up that area and create less of a bottleneck. Those two slides, as I recall, were the first two slides in SS's existence. In addition, no matter how crowded the waterpark is, those two slide rarely ever have a line. Yet, Congo River? This just doesn't add up for me. Both of those rivers are populated at once. I can't see them wanting to get rid of it 'too' soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I'm all for a new entry because the current one is tiny and doesn't stand out ... at all. There needs to be one that says "Spalshin' Safari" as big as the Holiday World sign before the parking lot. Not some little turnstiles and a small sign that says Splashin' Safari. After all, it is the more popular park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahank Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Giraffica? I didn't know we were at Busch Gardens Tampa. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN1993 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 The logo for Giraffica..... yeah... wtf holiday world 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I hope the misters they talk about are likes the ones at Dollywood. Those are so helpful in 100 degree temps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 23, 2012 Author Share Posted October 23, 2012 Found something in the press release that wasn't in anything else that I saw: they're changing to a "new style of lockers". I wonder if they're going the same route KI did this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Wow, did not even notice when checking the HW website yesterday that those slides were gone as well as Congo River...well, RhinoBlaster can probably replace AmaZOOM and Bamboo Chute, but Congo River...that's an odd one, looking at one of my HW park maps it would not block any new entrance I can think of (the slides, however, do, creating a bottleneck in that section of the park along with the Thanksgiving section) and its removal will just increase the crowds over at Bahari River...granted, these Lazy Rivers are giant in capacity and it may not be a problem, but having 2 lazy rivers, even if one was better themed than the other (Bahari>Congo), I don't see why Holiday World would be removing it...worth noting is this will mean 3 of Splashin' Safari's original attractions will be gone in 2012...only Crocodile Isle remains... Granted, there is also the chance this is a web site mess-up, and none of these rides could be leaving as no official announcement has been made...but, given the fact they are building a new entrance (hopefully one that gets rid of the bottleneck in that section)...and the location of the rides that are leaving...it seems feasible... PS: Nemo, Holiday World did add a second wave pool...in 2005. But they do have 2...so a new wave pool for them would mean THREE wave pools! Also, out of randomness- I like the old wave pool, "The Wave", better than the new one... Oh, and since I took some of your time, here are some pictures I found on Holiday World's Wikipedia page...in 1957, there was this... And now, in 2012, there is this... And that's not to mention all the stuff on the other side of ZOOMbabwe (where this pic was taken): Raven, Legend, Sparkler, other rides, etc etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki lover Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Yeah I think the AmaZOOM,Bamboo Chute, and the Congo River are gonna be gone for next year. On Saturday there was large holes dug by them and the congo river had a bunch of dirt in it. So my guess is they are gone for the new entrance. Which is sad because I had fun sliding down the slides when I was really little and going around the Congo river with my family when I was a small child. Shame, but alas they are kinda in the way of a new entrance and a tad outdated. Bitter-sweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Ok, I can see the African animals fitting into a holiday theme, but teacups? What? Celebrate Dec 16? (I so have to go there someday, it looks like a great park.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 AmaZoom and Bamboo Chute (the two slides near the entrance to the waterpark), as well as Congo River, no longer appear on the website. Are they being removed to make way for the new entrance plaza? I emailed Paula to ask if these were being removed. Here is her response: Yes, the original two slides and river (from 1993 – hard to believe it’s been two decades!) are making way for a much larger entrance/service area for the water park.Thanks, Paula Paula Werne Director of Communications Holiday World & Splashin' Safari I also got permission from her to post the response here. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel_SoB_fan Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 One thing I noticed missing from the announcement was timberliners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 One thing I noticed missing from the announcement was timberliners With all the delays those have suffered, they might not want to announce them again until they're delivered, on the track, and tested. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 ^ Which is what Paula has indicated on Facebook a few times. Testing will resume once the park has closed for the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted October 24, 2012 Author Share Posted October 24, 2012 One thing I noticed missing from the announcement was timberliners According to Twitter, that will come "eventually", just not as part of the main 2013 announcement. So I would think that they'll likely have Timberliners next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 Holiday world losing a river is not good, but its their park, for sure!, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted October 24, 2012 Share Posted October 24, 2012 One thing I noticed missing from the announcement was timberliners With all the delays those have suffered, they might not want to announce them again until they're delivered, on the track, and tested. That has happened once before and then PTC's were ordered. Maybe when they are 100% sure they are going to use them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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