chickenbowl Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 The argument towards a wing rider is the wide-set vertical loops and the in-line twist before the ending helix. 1
trevor75 Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Just to add to "The Bat" theory, Most are asking if it is really The Bat what does the comb clue have to do with a bat? Well maybe the comb and the hair isn't the clue but maybe the comb itself because the hair is tangled around "teeth" and what does a Vampire Bat have??? TEETH! Lol just adding fuel to any fire I guess. I myself still am going with "The Bat" site being a great big Herring of a certain color. 2
PyroKinesis Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Well, a comb sort of looks like a bat when it's flying.
dwitb Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 "IF" they resurrected The Bat wouldn't they already have the trademark or did that die with the acquisition of Kings Island to Cedar Fair? Edited to remove pictures.
The Interpreter Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Trademarks must be used to retain them. 1
Gravyboat Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 I do however feel that there will be a wing element to the train. The footer placement in several spots is very wide of the track, and if you look at the connecting lines for the support structure, it gives much more space than necessary for a typical inverted coaster. Then there are several references in the press hinting at a wing variant. Eg. Wlwt interview, and the CEO interview stated using elements of Gatekeeper in future rides and a recent twitter posting by kingsislandpr. Ride queue: looks like the ride may be using the old go-kart entrance path, the "holding area" would be located roughly in the center of the coaster flanked by the out and back tracks. Lastly the plans say "2014 project" which could indicate multiple things taking place. The "leaked" video of the blueprints covers Invertigo. And a small blue envelope is covering layouts adjacent to "Banshee" the envelope is moved and reoriented across 3 edits. Once for each page shown. The plans are push pinned to a corkboard so I'm assuming this is either in the construction trailer or park office. I await my beatings. so maybe we have the coaster part figured out. what are the thoughts about the ride queue and our mysterious blue envelope?
LordSkippy Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Canada's Wonderland has a coaster named The Bat. 2
asamccormick Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Very confused. Hopefully Don will explain all of the diversions after the ride is announced. It'll be fun to finally put everything together. I'm going on a long stretch and saying this is the most "toyed" with announcement in recent history. Usually Holiday World plays their new rides off really well, but I'm very impressed for a chain park. My head is spinning from all of the diversion. 2
The Interpreter Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Canada's Wonderland has a coaster named The Bat. Canada's Wonderland is in Canada. 6
LordSkippy Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Canada's Wonderland has a coaster named The Bat. Canada's Wonderland is in Canada. Whoops. Silly me. Leave it to me to miss something so obvious.
Gravyboat Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Canada's Wonderland is still owned by Cedar Fair so the trademark could be valid? 2
The Interpreter Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Canada's Wonderland is still owned by Cedar Fail so the trademark could be valid?International use will not reserve an American registration.And it's Cedar Fair. 1
The Forsaken Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 No. There would have to be a Canadian trademark applied and owned by CF. There's no "global" trademark. -T. Forsaken 2
Gravyboat Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 i have an abundance of fail, it leaks out sometimes, and whatnot.
The Forsaken Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 I also don't think "BAT" can be trademarked or copyrighted as it's name is to common. Like, I cannot trademark the word pizza or balloon. Same applies to bat. So, maybe a trademark may not even be needed for the name itself. However, one may be needed for the use of the name on any promotional, merchandising, etc. Say, the use of the typeface and colors...that's how to get around that. Just a note for the overly confused! -T. Forsaken
fryoj Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 But see: http://rcdb.com/2954.htm For trademark purposes would "bat" be the same as "The Bat"? I'd say yes and Lagoon would have a winnable suit against Cedar Fair.
RingMaster Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Canada's Wonderland has a coaster named The Bat. Canada's Wonderland is in Canada. Does that mean California's Great America is in California, too? Or is it really in Illinois? 2
flightoffear1996 Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 The blueprint is real. Anyone else disappointed that they aren't using any more of the open SOB land. From the looks of it they are blocking that land from any future development. 4
The Forsaken Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 But see: http://rcdb.com/2954.htm For trademark purposes would "bat" be the same as "The Bat"? I'd say yes and Lagoon would have a winnable suit against Cedar Fair. If this is the case...then DC Comics would have a case against Lagoon park. So on and so on... 1
homestar92 Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 I seriously doubt anyone has any serious doubt (lol) but Don has basically, through lack of words, admitted that this is a coaster. Note this conversation: https://twitter.com/KingsIslandPR/status/364491277024239616 He did not use the word "attraction" when asked about "the new coaster". I think anyone with eyes can see that it is a coaster, but does this constitute an admission? 1
fryoj Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 But see: http://rcdb.com/2954.htm For trademark purposes would "bat" be the same as "The Bat"? I'd say yes and Lagoon would have a winnable suit against Cedar Fair. If this is the case...then DC Comics would have a case against Lagoon park. So on and so on... "bat" and "batman" are distinctly different. There also has to be a similarity of usage. A car called a bat and a roller coaster called a bat would not infringe on each other. Two roller coasters called bat would.
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