KI says they have 14 roller coasters, I counted 13? what am I missing

[shawnofthedead]

I called them today and they said" Kings Island home of 14 roller coasters" I Then went online and counted and only got 13? these are the ones I counted

#1 The Beast

#2 Firehawk

#3 Diamondback

#4 Flight of Fear

#5 Invertigo

#6 The Racer

#7 Vortex

#8 Flight Deck

#9 Backlot Stunt Coaster

#10 Adventure Express

#11 Flying Ace Aerial Chase

#12 The Great Pumpkin Coaster

#13 Woodstock Express

what am i over looking?

[LordSkippy]

I believe they consider Surf Dog a coaster.

[BB1]

Some consider The Racer as 2 coasters.....

[Coaster.Rider.Kings Island]

Surf Dog is a Disko coaster made by Zamperla. I guess they consider this the 14th coaster.

[shawnofthedead]

Oh ok, kinda splitting hairs on their part, but Ill accept lol

[The Interpreter]

Racer should count as two, so it balances out, in my humble opinion.

[SonofBaconator]

I agree with you terp. I think one should be called Red Racer and Blue Racer. But then again, there would be a Red Rebel Yell/Blue Rebel Yell, Red Gemini/Blue Gemini, North Carolina/south Carolina.

S.O.B. who could go on forever...

[The Interpreter]

How many at Racer Kennywood?

Twicky Terpy.

[calakapepe]

Yeah, the only way I'd say it'd be debatable is if you boarded in one station and exited in the other one, while having two separate ride experiences... So one continuous track compacting "two rides."

^^ Like terp just mentioned with Racer - Kennywood.

[The Interpreter]

Aka möbius...one continuous track.

[calakapepe]

Yeah, didn't know the term till after I wrote that and saw you mentioned a specific ride, where I then " rcdb'd it ".

[XjoshhyX]

I believe they consider Surf Dog a coaster.

I'm pretty sure you're right here. If I remember, some of the coaster groups do count this as a coaster on their list of credits.

[amandagail13]

Yeah, I do believe they count Surf Dog as a coaster. Though I saw somewhere (wikipedia maybe?) that they had 13 coasters. So I think maybe it's just a matter of what you consider to be a coaster.

[Screaming_Chicken]

Surf Dog!!!...gotta admit that's a great coaster to begin your trip to Kings Island.

[UnrealNightmare]

They count The Racer as two coasters. The do not count Surf Dog.

[jcgoble3]

They count The Racer as two coasters. The do not count Surf Dog.

On the contrary, I remember a couple years ago, while waiting out a rain delay in Diamondback's station and listening to trivia questions from the girl on the mic, that one of answers was that the park considers Surf Dog a coaster. I don't recall the exact question, but I distinctly remember that specific answer.

[The Interpreter]

They do not count Racer as two.

And they do count Surf Dog.

And Wikipedia is not an authoritative source on this matter. Maybe if jcgoble3 edited the page...

[kblanken]

He probably can't change the article until a newspaper writes a story about how many roller coasters they have. Maybe next year. (Hey I sound like a Cleveland sports fan).

[Guest KingsIslandPR]

They do not count Racer as two.

And they do count Surf Dog.

And Wikipedia is not an authoritative source on this matter. Maybe if jcgoble3 edited the page...

Three-for-three!

[homestar92]

They do not count Racer as two.

And they do count Surf Dog.

And Wikipedia is not an authoritative source on this matter. Maybe if jcgoble3 edited the page...

Three-for-three!

Well then, I guess my coaster count is 43 after all!

[jcgoble3]

The main editors of the Kings Island article on Wikipedia currently consider The Racer to be one coaster and Surf Dog to not be a coaster at all in coming up with the count. If you disagree (I do on The Racer) and care enough to do something about it (I don't), start a new thread here to discuss it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kings_Island . If you can point to a secondary source like a newspaper article from within the last couple of years that cites the number of coasters, that would improve your chances of getting it changed. Again, I don't care about it enough to argue that it should be 14, since 13 is correct from a certain point of view.

[shawnofthedead]

Call Kings Island, they say 14 in their recorded message. I may call tommrow and ask them to name them off.

[The Interpreter]

You do realize who KingsIslandPR is, I trust.

Here's a hint: Don Helbig.

Add Surf Dog to the 13 in the original post. There's your 14.

Now, how many in '14? And can you name them? Don can.

[Adventuro]

Where does KI say they have 14 coasters? Cause everywhere says 13, Surf Dog isn't a coaster because it is mostly powered, so racer would have to be counted twice.

[darkmarkman]

I count The Racer as 2. It is two separate tracks in one attraction. I also count surf dog as a coaster.

[The Interpreter]

Where does KI say they have 14 coasters? Cause everywhere says 13, Surf Dog isn't a coaster because it is mostly powered, so racer would have to be counted twice.

Someone needs to read the entire thread before posting. Especially the first sentence of the first post and the post by KingsIslandPR.

[IndyGuy4KI]

To also add to this debate, did anyone read the KI e-newsletter that came out yesterday? It was talking about Planet Snoopy's Golden Tickets and had this in the article..

Planet Snoopy features an elaborate collection of PEANUTS-themed attractions for every age, including four roller coasters!

[tuxedoman52]

Well, you said you called them. I'm taking this as it was a recording. If it was maybe it was just old and it included Son of Beast?

[medford]

Its times like these that Don must be shaking his head. He points out Terps correct answers, yet more questions arise. Next thing you know somebody is going to suggest that they're using SOBs old station for their new attraction.

[shawnofthedead]

Where does KI say they have 14 coasters? Cause everywhere says 13, Surf Dog isn't a coaster because it is mostly powered, so racer would have to be counted twice.

When you call them its in their prerecorded message. "Thank you for calling Kings Island home of 14 rollercoasters"