JWAddington Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 This could be the equivalent of your parents finding out that you discovered what all they bought you for Christmas back in the day....snooping around where you shouldn't be! And they end up taking all of them back and you get coal instead! So if we see them starting to remove footers and then announce that Mean Streak is being relocated to Kings Island next year for the "new ride" .....we all know why! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dslam1 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Long time reader, first time poster. Not trying to derail this topic but I laughed hard at the mean streak relocation. To me it seems like a lot more work to relocate a woodie vs a steel, but I could be wrong. Either way, Am I the only one that thinks putting two inverts across from each other seems weird? Especially for a park laid out like KI? CP is a little different because it's smashed horizontally, but they still do a pretty good job not placing the similar coasters right next door. Also has anyone mentioned about how the coaster would look from 71? Personally I think it would be discussed amoung CF how the new coaster will look in the KI "skyline". A lot of people drive 71 everyday and even if they didn't see the marketing, they might notice a new coaster at the park driving by. Just my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dslam1 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I love raptor and Firehawk. Both are better IMO than Invertigo. I'd love to see a legit invert... But I just don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dslam1 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Sorry about the 3 different posts. My phone posted my first one 3 times so I just edited them to add more comments. I'd love to see a giga or a maverick (as it's my favorite ride). But I think a maverick style ride or winged coaster would do better with Vortex'a space. I'm hoping with this space they do something big. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 If we were getting a B&M, track fabricating would have to be well under way! Do you really think 5000 feet of track can be fabricated in 6 months and put in place, so they can do all the other electrical and mechanical things to the coaster and be ready to open in April? That means it needs to be finished in march, so the park can test for 30 days. The longer it takes track to show up at the B&M plant outside the less likely it's a B&M! CSF can make about 12-15 track pieces in a week. I don't know how many pieces make up an average roller coaster, but look at Gatekeeper, they started manufacturing in the Fall... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Just FYI... Just because there is not track out front, does not mean this will not be a B&M. CSF is huge. It is possible to hide the track in the very back of the building, inside or out. I was just out there today, and the same piece of green track is still there in the same spot. The same peice of track has been there for a couple months, which leads me to believe that it is a defective peice of Flying Over the Rainforest. Remember, only a few peices of Diamondback had shown up prior to the announcement. After the announcement, more track started showing up at CSF. Also, someone pointed out on another forum the difference in B&M's cross ties. Inverted / flying track has rounded cross ties. Above track cross ties are straight. I have been looking at older and newer B&M's and found this to be very acurate. My findings: OzIris Montu Manta Kumba Wild Eagle Dominator Leviathan If indeed the coaster for KI is a B&M, we will be able to tell what it is based on the cross ties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 If indeed the coaster for KI is a B&M, we will be able to tell what it is based on the cross ties. Or we can just look at the label... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Another way to tell is by the track. Some can tell what new coaster is which just by the track. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 But how do you tell the difference between a hyper and floorless? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 The trains. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom497 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 ^Trains are delivered after the announcement you know! I was talking about by just looking at the track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterXtreme Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 My money is not on B&M, if it turns out to be a B&M guess I will be eating Owl! 😛 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Just FYI... Just because there is not track out front, does not mean this will not be a B&M. CSF is huge. It is possible to hide the track in the very back of the building, inside or out. I was just out there today, and the same piece of green track is still there in the same spot. The same peice of track has been there for a couple months, which leads me to believe that it is a defective peice of Flying Over the Rainforest. Remember, only a few peices of Diamondback had shown up prior to the announcement. After the announcement, more track started showing up at CSF. Also, someone pointed out on another forum the difference in B&M's cross ties. Inverted / flying track has rounded cross ties. Above track cross ties are straight. I have been looking at older and newer B&M's and found this to be very acurate.(Pictures wuz here, but McSalsa removed from this post to save web space and load times!) If indeed the coaster for KI is a B&M, we will be able to tell what it is based on the cross ties. Hmm...Montu or Oziris, Kumba, Dominator, Wild Eagle, Dominator, and Leviathan...you made me imagine them all in one park, LOL...I would go to that park if there were some good flat rides supporting these coasters. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrillcaptinspike Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 Honestly as long as we get a good ride i will be happy 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire-Beast-OF FEAR Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 ^ That was probably the best post made on this site regarding 2014 ever. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrillcaptinspike Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 I mean when Diamondback was still a secret we all had our hopes for what it might be, and when it came out we got a hypercoaster, yes some people were disapointed because it wasnt the type of coaster they wanted but after riding it alot of them were no longer disapointed because it was a good ride, so why does it matter what type it is? As long as its a good ride we should be happy. I mean we could get a giga or a invert or something comepletly different. but just because it would be a giga or invert does not mean it will be a good ride, it could be one of those and end up being the worst ride at Kings Island, so we should all be happy as long as we end up with a good ride. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intaminallday Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Im new to the thread, and i dont wanna get off on the wrong foot with anyone but basically this is how i see it. I think we may get an invert but after someone pointing out the 8 bolts on a large footer, i dont know now what we are getting unless their is an invert with 8 bolts in some footers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenbowl Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 This is 100% a B&M. The footers prove it. Look at the same slots in these construction pictures. (Goliath SFOG, OzIris) The real question is what kind? I'd LOVE LOVE an Intamin, but you're delusional if you think it's anything but a B&M. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 As long as this coaster is not another flyer like Firehawk, you won't hear any belly achin' out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I was just out there today, and the same piece of green track is still there in the same spot. The same peice of track has been there for a couple months, which leads me to believe that it is a defective peice of Flying Over the Rainforest. Sounds like diversion track to me. Bravo to CSF and KI for keeping this thing under wrap still. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEASTmaster Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Guys trust me its not going to be for haunt and it's not going to be for 2015! We are getting a coaster and its a good chance it's not going to be a B&M! We have to go on facts and the fact is there isn't any B&M track to be found! It's going to be a different coaster manufacturer! If it is B&M I will be shocked! Here is some evidence that this ride is a B&M. Prepared to be shocked. Look at the diamond shaped holes in between the bolts on the footings on Goliath and Diamondback pictured below: Goliath @ SFoG Diamondback Now compare those to Kings Island 2014's project here: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Based on everything so far, my best guess is that this will be a B&M coaster. If it was up to me to choose what kind of B&M coaster, I would ask for a floorless coaster like Dominator in a heartbeat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Well the track I saw in June at CSF was for a standard B&M, not a WR or Invert. **edit stupid auto spell ** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 What is CMW? Is that CSF, clearmont steel fabricators? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
intaminallday Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I very much agree that this is a B&M ride because if the footers. I personaly really want a giga but an invert is okay too as long as it breaks some kind of record. Honestly anything that has a good set of hill/inversions and a nice drop is okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Also, someone pointed out on another forum the difference in B&M's cross ties. Inverted / flying track has rounded cross ties. Above track cross ties are straight.This was the track that was spotted outside CSF a wile back. Looks to be straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Also, someone pointed out on another forum the difference in B&M's cross ties. Inverted / flying track has rounded cross ties. Above track cross ties are straight.This was the track that was spotted outside CSF a wile back. Looks to be straight. That track in the quote is still at CSF, and in the same place as the photo as of yesterday when I was there. Look at the twisted track to the left. That is the top of a zero g roll or the top of a corkscrew. This is most likely for a floorless or a sitting coaster. Examples: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerColt Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I was at the park yesterday. Lots of work going on near the Adventure Express in terms of pouring footers. Other than that, no major differences! Oh, and I saw Don walking around the entrance to Diamondback, he seemed fairly upbeat and had a look of great determination! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ki Man Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 7/22 pics 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Well the track I saw in June at CSF was for a standard B&M, not a WR or Invert. **edit stupid auto spell ** Was it the green track to the left of the building if you are looking from the road? That has been there for several months now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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