faeriewench Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I didn't see a thread titled with this, but if it is being discussed in a different thread somewhere feel free to post link. Source; http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/03/16/humiliating-hero-six-flags-turns-wounded-vet-sgt-stephen-jackel-away-ride-denies-him The wounded veteran said on “Fox and Friends” this morning that nobody told him there would be rides that he wouldn’t be allowed to ride. Instead, he found out when he got on the “Boomerang” rollercoaster. Jackel said an attendant told him, “Without one fully functioning leg, you are not gonna be able to ride this ride.” He was then sent to hospitality, where he said he asked for a full refund and was offered comp tickets instead. Quick question...was Darien Lake still Six Flags when the incident there happened? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Yes, at Six Flags New England. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 They're making it out to be terrible for the park Ride SOP states must have one functioning arm and leg. He is a bilat AKA, he clearly does not meet the ride requirements. Park gave him right to stay and enjoy the rides he can ride, and then comped him tickets for a future visit. Later publicly the park gave a press release and is getting into contact to refund his purchase. They have done everything right, nothing wrong. Honestly he's all worked up over a very crappy poorly maintained boomerang. But this had the possibility to be a repeat of Darien lake where another bilat AKA rode a ride and was ejected and died. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 This was posted back when the first one happened. It's about time for the inevitable lawsuit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Funny how his service to our country was reported, which while great, has zero to do with riding, and his safety was not mentioned once. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterMyths79 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I would assume that he would've known that he wouldn't be allowed. Its common sense. He is using his service in the military to get what he wants, considering that he keeps on bringing up that fact. I realize that Six Flags did not tell him, yes, that is there fault, but if I had two broken legs or something like that, I would not even think about going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I have a relative allergic to peanuts. First thing that is always asked when at a restaurant: do you use peanut oil and is there a possibility the food has come in contact with peanuts? Why is this relevant? When you have a condition that has special restrictions, you know where & when to ask questions relating to your condition. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Of course his Military Service is being hyped up, what else do you expect from Faux News? Perceived Injustice towards Soldiers and Christians is just their thing. No one told him that there would be any rides that he could not ride? That should have went without say. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Anytime someone had def. Restrictions to rides..immediately sent them to Park Op..they are the final say so for rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 ...that and the court system. Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Well, to be fair, "Six Flags Does Their Due Diligence to Ensure Safety of Wounded Vet" would just be WAY too positive a headline for today's media... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stitch Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Amusement rides are heavy machinery, they don't discriminate against people. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 As someone I know famously says.. Don't respect the rides they don't respect you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 It didn't mean that his daughter couldn't ride, and by being turned away, he could eventually watch her graduate some day. I can understand he was disappointed, but if he could not hold himself in, his last vision would be his daughter watching him fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Sucks for him. I would rather read about rides getting stuck or breaking that reading about someone being turned away because the park felt he/she would not be safe to ride... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 What about limbless vet dies in terrible tragedy? Park lets him ride, horrible, forseeable accident ensues? Family, heart broken, sues? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBlade21 Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 ^ The park can't win... They say no, he goes to the media. They say yes and he dies, the family goes to a lawyer. Bad PR and a lawsuit - neither of which are beneficial to running a successful business. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Funny how his service to our country was reported, which while great, has zero to do with riding, and his safety was not mentioned once. Appeal to ethos. Though, I've heard of harnesses that accommodate people without certain limbs etc. The park most definitely is covered as they have postings on their website stating that they require riders to have the ability to brace in addition to needing to have a functioning leg. https://www.sixflags.com/sites/default/files/docs/park/ada-guidelines/ADAGuide_SANA_0.pdf (see page 6) - Great that he is a war hero, much respect to him, and I think a full refund would've been adequate for him alone, but given his condition that he is responsible for in his life now, he should've had the curiosity to see if he would be allowed to ride things. It took me all but 1 minute to find the above posted link; an additional 45 seconds to find the print about rider's required abilities to ride. The ADA lists specific guidelines to follow and have regarding riding restrictive rides. It is his responsibility to check his abilities before spending the money, though, as I've said, I think a full refund wasn't too much to ask. A story, biased one at that, is unnecessary. At the least, he could've called the park for a conversation to get the information he needs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Existential Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Sorry for my rude sense of humor sometimes...but between this story and the lack of knowledge of the participant...its ridiculous the way people react anymore. 'Poor me. Not my fault. Give me monies. I'm dumb. Don't think. Don't care. ' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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