TheBEASTunchained Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 As you all know, the restraint system on Banshee is the first of its kind on any inverted roller coaster in the world. Though plagued with a few minor problems while in use on Gatekeeper and Wild Eagle, the restraints at this point have been adjusted and improved on both of those coasters. With those adjustments and improvements being made, Banshee seemed to be a complete success when it comes to the restraint system used. With the recent success of the above mentioned B&M restraint system on Banshee, would it be possible to implement this system on already existing B&M inverted coasters? Do you think any parks would be interested in making such a change to an inverted coaster? From experience on other B&M inverted coasters, I can definitely say that these restraints have a huge impact on overall ride experience. Anyway, I was just curious as to what you all think about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastForever Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Now that all the "tightening" problems have been fixed, and given the fact the amount of headbanging on Banshee is literally zero, I say these restraints are wonderful... One of the major reasons that I and many others consider Banshee to be the best invert in the world... But I highly doubt other parks would feel the need to change their existing B&M inverts to these style trains. As has been mentioned before, it would cost a lot more than you think and thus the return on the investment wouldn't really be worth it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProdigyRider Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I don't think they would be able to replace the restraints on the trains, but get new trains. It seems to me that the dimensions of Banshee's trains are different than the first generation inverts. Also the seats are tilted differently, so spending millions on new trains is what is going to happen if that path is taken. I wouldn't mind riding Raptor with Banshee's trains though. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Back VII Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Now that all the "tightening" problems have been fixed, and given the fact the amount of headbanging on Banshee is literally zero, I say these restraints are wonderful... One of the major reasons that I and many others consider Banshee to be the best invert in the world... But I highly doubt other parks would feel the need to change their existing B&M inverts to these style trains. As has been mentioned before, it would cost a lot more than you think and thus the return on the investment wouldn't really be worth it. I agree with BeastForever. The new trains and restraints would cost a lot. The ride would not see an increase in popularity, therefore it isn't worth it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 ^^ Might work, but only if they gave Raptor a Bizzaro fire-breathing, foggy tunneled, strobe lighted makeover to make it appear as a new ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterOhio Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I am perfectly okay with these restraints, although I wish they would have the clicking effect like most restraints, it just feels more safe in my opinion to know that I can hear it lock.The only REAL problem I have with is is the vest, I know you can pull it forward and all which is great! But it's too tight almost. It was killing my collar bones the 4 times I rode it this weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 It doesn't lock in place, the vests, so it doesn't matter if you try to inhale a bunch when the restraints lock. It'll always be tuggin' on ya.It can always be pushed out a little also, but even still. I'd rather it lock where you set it. Not so you can be unsafe, but just so it can be there instead of being THERE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The restraints are wonderful and if more parks got them it would take away Banshee's fame 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XjoshhyX Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The restraints are wonderful and if more parks got them it would take away Banshee's fame I am kind of with this statement. I would love the restraints on some other inverts, but I am more than OK with us being the only ones with them for a little while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I'm not sure if I like the restraints on Banshee, it's like it makes me feel too safe and comfortable. I like to live on the edge so to speak. Would a lap bar not be sufficient? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted May 17, 2014 Share Posted May 17, 2014 I'm not sure if I like the restraints on Banshee, it's like it makes me feel too safe and comfortable. I like to live on the edge so to speak. Would a lap bar not be sufficient? Judging from Diamondback 2014, Cedar Fair's answer is no, it would not. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I'm not sure if I like the restraints on Banshee, it's like it makes me feel too safe and comfortable. I like to live on the edge so to speak. Would a lap bar not be sufficient? your right, Shoot the Rapids comes to mind when living on the edge, of drowning that is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Back VII Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I'm not sure if I like the restraints on Banshee, it's like it makes me feel too safe and comfortable. I like to live on the edge so to speak. Would a lap bar not be sufficient? your right, Shoot the Rapids comes to mind when living on the edge, of drowning that is. And Snake River Falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I suspect that it would not be that difficult to get out of the single-position lap bars on Snake River Falls in an emergency. The individual lap bars on Shoot the Rapids are a different story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxedoman52 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 It would never hurt to put these trains on Raptor. Just sayin'. Hint Hint, Wink Wink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gplez90 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 If first generation inverts received a retrofit, wouldn't they almost have to redo a lot of the electrical components in the station? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantisMan Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 They could.......but they won't. The cost vs return does not make a wise business decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 It would never hurt to put these trains on Raptor. Just sayin'. Hint Hint, Wink Wink It would hurt me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuxedoman52 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 It would never hurt to put these trains on Raptor. Just sayin'. Hint Hint, Wink Wink It would hurt me. Wouldn't for me is all I'm saying 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 If you soft, you might not like the big roller coasters. There always Planet Snoopy if you haven't stepped your game up yet. Can't stand when people say The Beast is rough. It's a big boy coaster, if you can't hang then there is kiddy rides! If anything they should make Banshee faster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Banshee goes the speed for which it was designed. It is what it is. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DontWantToWait42mar0 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Then they can design a launch to it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Back VII Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I believe B&M has yet to make a launched coaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hulk... Terp, just sayin' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 But it hought the launch was designed by a different company Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Indeed. But, it IS a launched B&M coaster... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Back VII Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Well, technically, it uses drive tires, making it a non-launched ride. Just sayin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 That's still considered launched... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I'd argue that drive tires constitute a launch. It's just rare that they're used as a primary launch for a train to complete a course. See also: Jet Rescue at Sea World in Australia. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Feels like a launch to me! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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