Dr Zhark Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Do you think Rivertown needs improvements? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonofbeast2.0 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I think it need more theming and feel to the era it is. It looks "old" so to speak, but doesn't really immerse you in that feeling. Add some props and maybe add a live show themed around the time frame? I feel like Rivertown and AZ, both need a step up in theming and feel for the area's. I remember seeing a keynote speech (I think that was what it was) on YouTube with Matt Ouimet talking about kind of letting their parks help make their future moves forward. Something simple he said that would fit Rivertown, is a water pump, that was added to Knott's Berry Farm. Never been their myself but I think something as simple as that could help with theming for Rivertown. As for AZ I can't really think of anything, except I think renaming and theming being the best course for it... He is an off the wall idea... When DB needs/gets fully repainted, instead of keeping the color it has now, give it a rustic looking color to make it feel more fitting to the area? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Well a snake does fit a river town motif.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 A desert snake, notsomuch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 How doesn't a Diamondback snake fit the western/ cowboy/ river town feel? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 River/water, desert snake. It was a joke. In actuality, Diamondback and its styling fit into the area quite well, and are a great addition to Rivertown. The only thing I don't like is how abruptly it transitions into Planet Snoopy. I wish that Diamondback was more solidly placed in Rivertown rather than on the edge. Edited to add: the location of the Reds Hall of Fame Grille contributes to Diamondback feeling cut off from the rest of Rivertown. It used to be a more theme-friendly restaurant. Now, both the Chicken Shack and Hanks Burrito Shack (didn't notice till I was looking on the map for their proper names that both of these are "shacks") would make more sense in Rivertown. RHoFG would make more sense in Action Zone, or possibly even Coney Mall. Obviously, the buildings currently standing would be wrong for the change, but thematically it would make more sense. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegajone Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 The only thing I don't like is how abruptly it transitions into Planet Snoopy. I wish that Diamondback was more solidly placed in Rivertown rather than on the edge. That's a gripe of mine too though obviously nothing can be done about it now. But before Diamdonback was installed, the transition was much more defined. The Diamondback photo booth, queue entrance and station really opened up that are right where the transition is, to the point where the line between Rivertown and PS is pretty blurred. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I think the Reds Hall Of Fame Grill Disrupts the transition more and makes Diamondback feel more disconnected. As well as the Crypt/Tomb Raider's entrance. Having all the Asian theming right in the middle of an old west town just felt off to me since it first opened. If they keep the structure for something else I really hope they retheme that whole entry way and make it fit the area better and give it a mine shaft theme and look. The transition to Planet Snoopy is pretty sudden but since it is the Charlie Brown log flume on the edge there across from it, it makes it an ok transition I feel. It's a Charlie Brown ride but it has a rustic/river feel to it. I do agree that a little more theming would help that area a bit. However I feel Action Zone has the bigger identity crisis at the moment with two competing themes going on, though it could just be a transitional year and will eventually change over. But you have Invertigo, Drop Tower and Delirium all with bold colors and such of the old Action Zone. While Banshee and The Bat have a darker, more haunted feel and theme to them. And then Congo Falls just kind of in the middle of it all. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegajone Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I too sort of expect this to be a "transitional year" as you said for AZ, but at the same time I'm not exactly sure what they can do with Invertigo and Drop Tower to theme those to fit the Banshee/Bat theme they have going on. However, even if the Reds HOF Grill building wasn't there, the whole DB midway area is pretty much wide open C (or V) shape that faces directly towards Planet Snoopy. Plus that building was obviously there first, so it's tough for me to blame that as the reason why DB feels disconnected from Rivertown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 I just look at the park as a whole, Kings Island, and enjoy everything it has to offer and not worry about what name a space has on the map 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 One issue, I think is the mixed message of Rivertown. Is it the old west? Or... something else? I think technically it's supposed to represent an early Ohio settlement along the river, right? Nothing wrong with that in Kings Island's early days (when you visited for the atmosphere, dining, shopping, and food as much as for the attractions), and the log flume and the keelboats fit that setting... issue is, not of whole lot of EXCITING stuff can be tied to an early Ohio river settlement. The Beast fits in a unique and clever way... sort of a local legend about a creature in the woods. Obviously additions thereafter have deviated, using Rivertown as a "Frontierland" or... I don't know, Southeast Asia. For a while, that early Ohio settlement had a Western coaster diving over an Asian temple with a demonic bat inside and a Beast out in the woods behind. Today it's a hodge-podge, but no more than any of the park's other "lands." (Lest we forget, Adventure Express and the Burrito Shack are in Oktoberfest, Banshee is in a vaguely-themed studio backlot, Flight of Fear technically remains in Coney Mall since the park doesn't acknowledge X-Base as a land, etc). I continue to think that an off-season of re-defining / re-naming / re-theming ALL of the parks "lands" would be a great thing to see, but I continue to understand that the average guest probably wouldn't notice. Then again, Kings Dominion made a whole year's celebration about two lands coming back to life, so who knows. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlondyRidesOn Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Diamondback does fit Rivertown somewhat because Diamondback rattlesnakes can sometimes be found in the Midwest. As for the rest of Rivertown, the train needs its animatronics back, something similar to Paddlewheel Excursions at Cedar Point. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTW Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The break between Rivertown and Planet Snoopy is the pavement type. Rivertown is pavers, Planet Snoopy is blacktop. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I think it need more theming and feel to the era it is. It looks "old" so to speak, but doesn't really immerse you in that feeling. Add some props and maybe add a live show themed around the time frame? I feel like Rivertown and AZ, both need a step up in theming and feel for the area's. I remember seeing a keynote speech (I think that was what it was) on YouTube with Matt Ouimet talking about kind of letting their parks help make their future moves forward. Something simple he said that would fit Rivertown, is a water pump, that was added to Knott's Berry Farm. Never been their myself but I think something as simple as that could help with theming for Rivertown. Mr. Ouimet's speech. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 edit: duplicate post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Listen closely to what Matt says about Wonder Mountain Guardian's films starting at about 23:11 forwards....an interesting clue is dropped... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Back VII Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Rivertown has two of the park's best coasters. I think it could be jazzed up a little around The Beast, but overall, it's a wonderful place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 ^^... 1 water ride and a train, but 0 flat rides.....That area is screaming for several flats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The only thing I don't like is how abruptly it transitions into Planet Snoopy. I wish that Diamondback was more solidly placed in Rivertown rather than on the edge. In an effort to maintain my good reputation on this site, I will not go into my multi-paragraph dissertation about why Diamondback is placed very well exactly where it is, lest people start to think of me as a troll. Regardless of any of that, however, just look at the darn thing. I think one look at Diamondback and its complete domination of the skyline makes it abundantly clear that it isn't part of Planet Snoopy. You want a ride that teeters on the edge of the two sections? Look at our Arrow Flume. It has even moved between the two sections without physically moving. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Back VII Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I completely agree with everything you said. Diamondback is placed well, and RFYLCB is not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Before it became RFYLCB it was in fact Kings Mills Log Flume and a part of Rivertown. Linus's Launcher is slightly offset from where the Wheel of Fortune (Trabant ride) was located. The pathway past Snoopy's Flying Ace Aerial Chase was non-existent. Paramount, in an effort to extend the age range for Nickelodeon Splat city added the Vekoma family suspended coaster, Jimmy Neutron Flyers (Linus's Launcher) and re-themed the log ride to The Wild Thornberrys. This, in effect, tore a hole into Rivertown's theming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Even though it is "officially" part of Planet Snoopy now, I still consider RFYLCB equally at home in Rivertown. So, as far as that goes, it is a good transition, a little of each. The majority of Diamondback being located firmly in Rivertown helps too. Really, I think the biggest obstacle is that the outside of RHoFG doesn't fit into the Rivertown theming, so Diamondback's queue and station feel cut off. That's something that would be fairly easily changed (back). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTW Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Throw a covered wagon in one of the center flower beds. Problem solved. Joking. (Kind of) 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 A dark ride, maybe some new theme for white water canyon, and general fix it up! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 "Everything for a reason." "Rome was not built in a day." "A stitch in time, saves nine." Terp, recitin' adages. For at least one (nine?) reason(s). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dtk1376 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I was surprised your rectified the adages but left the White Water Canyon capitalization un-touched, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 As the name of a Kings Island attraction, it really should be capitalized, even though it didn't register. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 Before it became RFYLCB it was in fact Kings Mills Log Flume and a part of Rivertown. Linus's Launcher is slightly offset from where the Wheel of Fortune (Trabant ride) was located. The pathway past Snoopy's Flying Ace Aerial Chase was non-existent. Paramount, in an effort to extend the age range for Nickelodeon Splat city added the Vekoma family suspended coaster, Jimmy Neutron Flyers (Linus's Launcher) and re-themed the log ride to The Wild Thornberrys. This, in effect, tore a hole into Rivertown's theming.Rugratt's? Danny Phantom? BB1, not so much of a fan of Paramount Nick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 True. Never rode them so their names escaped me. How about "that kiddie coaster and flying thing where installed by Paramount." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 I do wish I owned a Reptar when I was little, run, Runaway Reptar! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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