The Interpreter Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 It would also be unique to experience a guillotine. No, thanks. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 ^ Yeah, I'm not talking about the corkscrew, like goodyellowkorn said. I'm talking about the rider heartline, which is the axis that all track banking on the ride is based around. Ah. Yes. Now that you put it that way, I can definitely see where that could be an issue. I think it just goes to show how... not worthwhile (for lack of a better word) such a conversion would be. Mantis has a layout that is very intense for a standup coaster. Assuming (for the sake of argument) that everything could work out from a physiological, financial, legal, and any other relevant standpoint and this project were given the green light, how exciting and intense would it really be as a floorless? I haven't ridden a floorless personally, but it seems to me like Mantis has a layout that is very tame in comparison to a lot of them, judging by photos, videos, etc. that I've seen. Perhaps I'm wrong, though. It would bring a floorless coaster back into Ohio, but at the same time, we'd lose our last standup. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I think Mantis is intense because of its layout. Certainly standing has its own exhaustive quality, but the layout itself is pretty... shall we say, convoluted? I always compared it to the old coaster-building PC games where you'd try to connect back to the brakes only to find that you're off a square or something, so you add a loop... Then you have to bring it back around so you add a helix. But you need an S-turn to line up to complete the circuit, etc etc. By time you're done, you look back and find you've built... Frankencoaster. Just twists and rolls and bumps and turns and loops. And not even in an attractive and inspired way like Flight of Fear. I don't know a thing about engineering or physics. Doesn't seem to me that changing the train or heartline would have some disastrous result on riders, but I literally have absolutely no idea whatsoever. Really. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I mean, I've ridden two floorless coasters (Dominator and Bizarro) and they were fun rides. The floorless aspect is unique but not drastically different from a standard sit-down coaster unless you sit in the front row. I think Mantis would make a decent floorless coaster, but I feel like making that change would really only matter to enthusiasts. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 "NEW FOR 2014 - MANTIS WON'T HURT YOUR -----!" Imagine the collective cheer and the irreverent marketing campaign Cedar Fair could come up with. 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyk Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I want a flyer. It would be awesome to have it fly over the water.I suggest you go to Carowinds sometime in the future.Or SeaWorld Orlando. Manta looks pretty darn awesome! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGuy11 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I want a flyer. It would be awesome to have it fly over the water.I suggest you go to Carowinds sometime in the future. Or SeaWorld Orlando. Manta looks pretty darn awesome! I agree. I would love to ride Manta. But I would go to Carowinds first because of the new giga coaster they are getting in 2015 and besides, his favorite coaster is I305 so he could hit up that on the way down to Carowinds. Also, if he owns a Platinum Pass he gets in for free! ThatGuy, a planner. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I want a flyer. It would be awesome to have it fly over the water.I suggest you go to Carowinds sometime in the future.Or SeaWorld Orlando. Manta looks pretty darn awesome! Manta is an awesome ride and I would love to have a B&M Flying Coaster in closer proximity. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ride On_17 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I would really love it if something is done to Mantis for next year. Maybe the paint will grow on me (if it's indeed being painted), but I find Mantis' current colors to be among my favorite color combo in the park. It's so unique and cool. But I do like that shade of green. I wonder what the supports would be... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banshee Back VII Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I want a flyer. It would be awesome to have it fly over the water.I suggest you go to Carowinds sometime in the future. Or SeaWorld Orlando. Manta looks pretty darn awesome! I agree. I would love to ride Manta. But I would go to Carowinds first because of the new giga coaster they are getting in 2015 and besides, his favorite coaster is I305 so he could hit up that on the way down to Carowinds. Also, if he owns a Platinum Pass he gets in for free! ThatGuy, a planner. I do got 'dem Platinum Pass. I now know what I will do next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Wow. I don't even know what I'll do three hours from now. Terp, telling truth (and also pondering whether to take another spin on the old Career-O-Matic....) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Be it Mantis or something else, I just wonder if the King James coaster will have a splashdown into a giant pile of chalk dust... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Diversity wise? (Did Terp really say THAT? Naw.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I would really love it if something is done to Mantis for next year. Maybe the paint will grow on me (if it's indeed being painted), but I find Mantis' current colors to be among my favorite color combo in the park. It's so unique and cool. But I do like that shade of green. I wonder what the supports would be... I would be happy with green and the current support color. Maybe yellow rails. Red, yellow, and blue never seemed to suit Mantis: TCFKAB to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think Mantis is intense because of its layout. Certainly standing has its own exhaustive quality, but the layout itself is pretty... shall we say, convoluted? I always compared it to the old coaster-building PC games where you'd try to connect back to the brakes only to find that you're off a square or something, so you add a loop... Then you have to bring it back around so you add a helix. But you need an S-turn to line up to complete the circuit, etc etc. By time you're done, you look back and find you've built... Frankencoaster. Just twists and rolls and bumps and turns and loops. And not even in an attractive and inspired way like Flight of Fear. I don't know a thing about engineering or physics. Doesn't seem to me that changing the train or heartline would have some disastrous result on riders, but I literally have absolutely no idea whatsoever. Really. Anyone notice anything different about this photo? This was Mantis as it was pre-2000 when the entrance was behind the train tracks from the beginning of the Frontier Trail. After Millenium Force opened in 2000 the entrance to Mantis was changed to its present location by the photo booth. Notice also the long line. Used to love Mantis especially the brief air-time after the dive loop. For the past few years, sadly, it has gotten kind of rough around the edges. I am certainly keeping my fingers crossed that they will give this coaster a bit of TLC whether as a floorless or some other style. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBEW_Sparky Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I think any proposed splashdown should flop into a big pool of Aspercreme... just in case any riders have "cramps". Or, introduce a fire element and name the ride "The Burning Jersey". Sparky.... not a fan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 And if the Jersey were New.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Is it just me, or is the new paint scheme much more appropriate for a "Mantis" than the former? Green and silver with red rails? I'd count that as evidence against this being a potential Lebron coaster. Unless the Lebron coaster is a testament to his high school days, during which he was a green-and-gold "Fighting Irish" leprechaun at St. Vincent – St. Mary High School here in Akron. (By the way, my own high school's big rival! We famously lost the big basketball match 4 years in a row. ) Probably little St. Vincent – St. Mary would be easier to rein into a deal than the Cleveland Cavaliers. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 That's if it stays Mantis.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragsterguy21 Posted August 8, 2014 Author Share Posted August 8, 2014 Screamscape just posted that the Mantis new paint and floorless conversion are linked and are going to happen. This makes the chances in my opinion 70% sure it will happen. But it is Screamscape and they have been wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 Get your facts straight, they're always right. The floorless may be a possibility..but it's a crazy possibility. To me it also does seem kind of SIXish to repaint and slap a new name and trains (if it even gets converted to floorless) and market it as a new ride for '15 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 In many ways, FUN is the old SIX, and SIX is the new FUN. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 If they convert the ride to floorless I will be willing to ride it again as will my wife. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Nooooooooooooo. I love Mantis just as it is. It's one of my favorite coasters, and the only stand-up I've ever ridden. I really, really hope that they don't convert it to floorless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Clearly you How anyone finds that setup enjoyable astonishes me..At least you didn't say Beast is rougher than Mean Streak like someone else I know.. After a high seat staple..no more. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Standups are a great ride loved Chang at former Six Flags KY Kingdom, and love Mantis long live standups, but seems odd Canada's Wonderland taking out their standup also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Mantis's first drop and loop are very enjoyable in the front row. The worst part about a remodel would be losing it as a walk-on ride for busy days. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Screamscape just posted that the Mantis new paint and floorless conversion are linked and are going to happen. This makes the chances in my opinion 70% sure it will happen. But it is Screamscape and they have been wrong Screamscape just said my a$$ was purple, because I sent an anonymous email saying it was. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Nooooooooooooo. I love Mantis just as it is. It's one of my favorite coasters, and the only stand-up I've ever ridden. I really, really hope that they don't convert it to floorless. The fact you've ridden only one goes far in explaining why you like it. In my opinion, it's the second worst in America, better only than the aptly named Apocalypse at Six Flags America. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted August 9, 2014 Share Posted August 9, 2014 Clearly you How anyone finds that setup enjoyable astonishes me..At least you didn't say Beast is rougher than Mean Streak like someone else I know.. After a high seat staple..no more. Can't you just be happy that I'm giving "mama park" credit for something? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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