SingleRiderAfter1 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Went to the park today. Saw a tree removal company hard at work in between WWC's queue and the train station. I noticed a marker in a place I wasn't expecting it today. The picture is kind of blurry unfortunately so it's hard to make out. That's here: (Aerial pic taken from hamilton county maps) If my memory serves me correctly, most of our speculation so far hasn't come anywhere near this marker. But who knows, maybe this marker is for something else... It maybe a construction road being built. But idk just throwing ideas at the wall see if anything sticks Sent from my XT1034 using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBInternational Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Can you post the link to the Hamilton County map source? Thanks!! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk http://cagisonline.hamilton-co.org/cagisonline/index.html I actually like this aerial map better than bing or google. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The Kings Island train track is narrow gage, 36". 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 See also, for standard gage: https://www.truthorfiction.com/railwidth/ 56.5 inches: 4 feet, 8.5 inches.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 So Terp is saying the coaster...is joining... the train track? For 1500 feet? With a triple down? That makes the coaster even bigger than you engineers tracked it. It could include a near miss element with the train. And it would make as much sense as Frozen taking over Maelstrom in Epcot... That doesn't make a lick of sense btw... Frozen at Epcot I mean. I would never mean Terp. I don't have a clue what that guy is selling. **Disclaimer**. The only disclaimer I will ever make. (Maybe). This is sarcasm...and in no way would I not know what Terp is selling. He sells insight and knowledge. For anyone reading outside . 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just out of curiosity, does the picnic grove make the park money? Cause if you take it out, or reduce it's size, it really opens some ideas that fit well. They could also tie the water park path to Rivertown and create a whole new area. Not high on the probability scale, but I'm confused by this project and am throwing things at the wall. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 No major theme park doesn't have an area for relatively private corporate/group event catering.... 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 ^That, and I think its best to keep it there by Planet Snoopy since a lot of the events that use that cater to families. I honesty can't think of a better spot to move it to. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Move it to the Cincinnati Zoo and put an Intamin plug and play woodie turnaround there. Forggetaboutit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tien Shinhan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 ^ I just said it. And so have millions of other people in the past 40+ years. I highly doubt we are "nobody". Maybe it was just before your time? Just think...that clip above was made when Kings Island was under construction. Hey, maybe this new "attraction" will be themed to the early 70's - when Kings Island was built! Only music from the early 70's would be played! Maybe it will actually be called "Carpenters"...carpenters do work with wood, after all... I would love to have songs from the early seventies play in the queue Especially this one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tien Shinhan Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just out of curiosity, does the picnic grove make the park money? Cause if you take it out, or reduce it's size, it really opens some ideas that fit well. They could also tie the water park path to Rivertown and create a whole new area. Not high on the probability scale, but I'm confused by this project and am throwing things at the wall. I think the only time they use it is for Halloweekends during October so as far as I know they don't use it for anything else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RingMaster Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just out of curiosity, does the picnic grove make the park money? Cause if you take it out, or reduce it's size, it really opens some ideas that fit well. They could also tie the water park path to Rivertown and create a whole new area. Not high on the probability scale, but I'm confused by this project and am throwing things at the wall. Every day the park is open, the Picnic Grove is being used for something. From a tiny family reunion with barely 50 people to a major manufacturing company outing that buy out the entire park (with patrons numbering in the tens of thousands), the Grove makes way more money than people realize. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CP Maverick Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Can you post the link to the Hamilton County map source? Thanks!! Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk It was posted a few pages back. http://cagisonline.hamilton-co.org/cagisonline/index.html Has anyone else mapped locations of markers and clearings? I'd love to but as I'm 4 hours away, I'm not sure when my next trip down will be. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyMartyFly Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Thanks for the link Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N910A using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson76 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just out of curiosity, does the picnic grove make the park money? Cause if you take it out, or reduce it's size, it really opens some ideas that fit well. They could also tie the water park path to Rivertown and create a whole new area. Not high on the probability scale, but I'm confused by this project and am throwing things at the wall. Picnic Grove is used almost daily for things like birthday parties, wedding receptions, company outings, Kings Island special event lunches and The Haunt all you can eat dinner!Also I think KI just remodeled it either last year or during the off season! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Just out of curiosity, does the picnic grove make the park money? Cause if you take it out, or reduce it's size, it really opens some ideas that fit well. They could also tie the water park path to Rivertown and create a whole new area. Not high on the probability scale, but I'm confused by this project and am throwing things at the wall. I think the only time they use it is for Halloweekends during October so as far as I know they don't use it for anything elseMinus the events that happen on a daily basis there... Edit: missed the other posts saying the same thing before I replied to this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fubar Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 We can all rest assured that whatever this ride turns out to be, a family coaster or an absolute monster coaster, that Cedar Fair will greatly improve the beauty of the park and add to the area it goes in to. All of Cedar Fairs recent major additions have added midways or had awesome modifications to midways that really added to the enjoyment of the park. I am expecting something pretty spectacular on this front. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny1388 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Picnic Grove gets used. Whether it makes money/profit for the park is another question. And...not everything in the park needs to be a direct money-maker. I'm not sure I could say Picnic Grove qualifies as one exactly, but loss leaders are a thing. If you don't know what a loss leader is, it's something sold at a loss (like an Xbox) because it will lead to you spending money on something else the mfgr makes profit from (like the games for the Xbox). The crazy 55" TV for $100 Black Friday sales? Those are loss leaders. They limit the number available for obvious reasons, but they get people to show up to the store and they'll buy other things. There's other things that you could ask the same question about. Do the fountains make money for the park? Probably less than Picnic Grove since I doubt the fountains factor into any decision to have an event etc at the park. Regardless, a service to guests that they use/enjoy is often times worthwhile to keep around, even if it (by itself) operates at a small loss. "Well, we could hold our event at King's Island, but we'd have to have the gathering in the parking lot since they put a ride where Picnic Grove used to be." If people come to the park, for whatever reason, they're paying for admission, they're buying food/drinks/merch etc. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Guys, I'm not sure if we made it clear enough that the Picnic Grove gets used on a daily basis. The Grove isn't going anywhere. Can I see it being downsized slightly? Yes. Torn out, no. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Mankind put humans on the moon before it figured out the concept of putting wheels on luggage. Kings Island will put a roller coaster in its picnic grove before it puts a restroom in X-Base. It's all just organic, natural progression, imho. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagoda Gift Shop Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 It was just a few years ago that they paved all the paths and areas of the Picnic Grove. Until then, a lot of it had just been gravel/stone. Group sales seem like they would be a big time money maker, especially for a park in a major metro area like Cincinnati. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 LOL. Having been in Phoenix, Las Vegas, Chicago, New York and other major metro areas, that sounded kinda funny to me XD. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Guys, I'm not sure if we made it clear enough that the Picnic Grove gets used on a daily basis. The Grove isn't going anywhere. Can I see it being downsized slightly? Yes. Torn out, no. It has downsized slightly. At one point there was an exit platform from the train just outside the Picnic Grove's fence line. Now the platform is gone and the fence line has moved back about 20 feet from the train.... Coincidence or just making room for future planning? Things that make you go... hmmmmm 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 LOL. Having been in Phoenix, Las Vegas, Chicago, New York and other major metro areas, that sounded kinda funny to me XD. Major for the state of Ohio.... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrill_Biscuit Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 The state whose NBA team are the World Champions! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaks76 Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 At least one pro team from Ohio can win a championship. I'd venture to guess a few posters around here have never seen that. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Well if you exclude minor leagues and lower interest sports, the last title from Ohio was the Reds in 1990, a crisp 26 years ago 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvertiJack Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Actually, the last one was the Cavs a few days ago. Sent from my SM-G530T using Tapatalk 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 ^ I think that was the point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 This is a big country, any city in the top 50 media markets is major.. Ohio has 3. Cleveland 18, Columbus 32, Cincinnati 35. Las Vegas 40. http://www.janson.com/rights/top-50-u-s-markets/ 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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