Geauga Lake 2008 Attractions

[FOFirehawkFAN]

Does anyone else see the possibility for a new roller coaster in 08? Possibly a 50's themed coaster where Hurricane Hannah's Water Park used to be (The 3rd waterpark stage I believe). Not only has it been awhile since they built a coaster they tore the 2 best ones down. This would also help them finally clean up all the leftovers from the water park that still sits there. Also a new flat ride where Mr. Hydes Nasty Fall used to be would be nice (maybe they could move Time Warp there and move Starfish to the kiddie area) What does everyone else think about the future of this park?

[Guest faceoff]

As much as i would like to see geauga lake do well as a ride park-with the report's of empty midways

and two people on a rollercoaster, i can't imagine any new coaster's being installed. I really hate

to see parks fail,but i see geauga lake being a waterpark only or selling off everything including

the land. I hope everybody supports the park-so this doesn't happen.

[FOFirehawkFAN]

As much as i would like to see geauga lake do well as a ride park-with the report's of empty midways

and two people on a rollercoaster, i can't imagine any new coaster's being installed. I really hate

to see parks fail,but i see geauga lake being a waterpark only or selling off everything including

the land. I hope everybody supports the park-so this doesn't happen.

Honestly it wouldnt suprise me if Cedar Fair is purposly tearing down rides and not adding anything new so the park WILL fail. I mean the whole reason they bought it anyway was so Six Flags couldnt compete with Cedar Point.

[Guest faceoff]

In the event of geauga lake closing in the future-what rides do you think will be re-located to

other Cedar Fair parks and which ones sold to a carnival?

[cstrwomann]

I don't think GL will be adding any new coasters to a park that is failing in attendence. I predict that Dominator, Head Spin, Thunder Hawk, Double Loop, and the children's coaster will be leaving and going to other CF parks and hopefully the woodies can be saved and shipped elsewhere. I predict that the property will be sold for real estate because they have too much land (700 acres). I hope this doesn't happen but the attendence on Memorial Day was terrible. Every ride was a walk on and I got to ride everything twice and I was only there 4 hours.

[The Interpreter]

And everyone knows a great way to increase attendance is to shorten the season dramatically, which they have done. Mr. Kinzel keeps stressing that local residents near Geauga Lake need to look to Cedar Point for a thrill park, and see Geauga Lake as a great waterpark. They've put quite a bit of investment into the waterpark since they acquired Geauga Lake.

I bet, if Cedar Fair had it to do over again, they wouldn't have acquired Geauga Lake. Yes, they got it at a fire sale price compared to what Six Flags and Busch had invested in it. But, the price they paid may still have been too much in light of the park's operational costs. And removing the animals and building the waterpark with nonunion labor weren't the smartest things Cedar Fair ever did, either. Charging nine dollars to park in that neighborhood, with a mall across the street that would like to be a good neighbor, also isn't a very smart move.

[Captain Picard]

If Geauga Lake is going to close we could find out soon. The 08 season pass sales will be coming if they sell when they did before.

I don't know if KI would be a park getting some of the rides as there are other parks that could use them. There is not a ride at Geauga Lake that I wouldn't pass up and wait a year for something better.

[cstrwomann]

I would like to see KI or CP get Dominator so we still have a floorless coaster in Ohio. The other steel coasters I like but I wouldn't miss them as much because they are at CP /KI already. I don't think they will close in 08' until they move out the coasters. Maybe GL will get more business and not close. This is what I'm hoping for anyway.

[Kennywooddude]

People in NE Ohio head to the beaches for Memorial Day weekend, not amusement parks. Me, and alot of other people thought that park did pretty good for memorial day. My friend that for the first time in years, he rode Villain with a full train of people and when he got back to the station, there was an actual line. Even Texas Twister got some talk. Alot of people thought it was a new ride due to the new paint job.

[padfoot714]

Dick Kinzel made it sound like GL will not be getting any major hard park rides for quite some time. I'm guessing that they will be getting more water park improvements if they see any improvements at all.

[FOFirehawkFAN]

I guess Ive accepted that this park will go nowehere but I never really considered the idea of a tear down of the park. Although if attendance doesn't increase I will have to agree with you all and say that this park may go bye-bye. Too bad their are no good flat rides for Kings Island to get, but hopefully they will get Dominator.

[westcoaster]

Geuga Lake will become a water park with a few kiddie rides only Thats the way its fate seems to be going,

and for sure the land will be sold off.

[FOFirehawkFAN]

Geuga Lake will become a water park with a few kiddie rides only Thats the way its fate seems to be going,

and for sure the land will be sold off.

Do you think it's possible that Geauga Lake will end up being the old Sea World and the old Geauga Lake land will all be sold off?

[Gordon Bombay]

I think its very likely Geauga Lake will in the future be known as just Wild Water Kingdom, a Cedar Fair Entertainment Company water park.

[The Interpreter]

Or, quite possibly, the entire area will become known as The Mansions At The Lake...A (INSERT NAME OF HOUSING DEVELOPER HERE) Development

[padfoot714]

Or, quite possibly, the entire area will become known as The Mansions At The Lake...A (INSERT NAME OF HOUSING DEVELOPER HERE) Development

Lol. Maybe they'll leave some of the rides standing and market it as the only country club with its own roller coaster.

[The Interpreter]

Most people interested in buying in a high end development do not want to live anywhere near an amusement park. Heck, many people who buy near a park, after the park has been in operation many years, bring actions to try to stop noise, traffic, light 'pollution,' etc.

This is one reason many have trouble believing much of Astroland will be saved by Trump's company, if and when it is developed. At least the historic Coney Island Cyclone is safe, as it is owned by the City of New York and is historically protected.

[Kenban]

Honestly it wouldnt suprise me if Cedar Fair is purposly tearing down rides and not adding anything new so the park WILL fail. I mean the whole reason they bought it anyway was so Six Flags couldnt compete with Cedar Point.

Six Flags spent a huge amount of money buying the two parks and building new rides. Then a few years later sold the parks for less then what they paid to purchase the two parks not even counting the money spent on new attractions. If the park was making money or close to it I doubt it would have been sold at a large loss. Six Flags gave up and the only reason that I can think of is that they felt there was no way they could make money any time soon.

If Cedar Fair had not purchased the park who knows who would have. Most of the rumors claim the only other groups were developers who planned to destroy the park and build housing. Its not like Cedar Fair went to Six Flags first. Six Flags decided to sell and Cedar Fair was the top bidder.

If Cedar Fair wanted the park to fail I doubt they would have gone to the same advertising company Disney uses to produce the advertisements for this season. There are a lot cheaper ways to make a park fail.

[KIBeast]

Honestly it wouldnt suprise me if Cedar Fair is purposly tearing down rides and not adding anything new so the park WILL fail. I mean the whole reason they bought it anyway was so Six Flags couldnt compete with Cedar Point.

No, the reason that Cedar Fair bought Geauga Lake was to make money. GL was not competing all that well with Cedar Point.

[Browntggrr]

Honestly it wouldnt suprise me if Cedar Fair is purposly tearing down rides and not adding anything new so the park WILL fail. I mean the whole reason they bought it anyway was so Six Flags couldnt compete with Cedar Point.

That makes no sense. If SFWoA was taking any guests from CP, the park would have been successful. SF put in those coasters with the dream of competing with CP, and it turned into a nightmare. Less guests went to the park.

And if CF was not putting money into the park, I would agree with you that they want it to fail. But that is not the case at all. SF did not destroy the park overnight, and CF cannot turn it around overnight as well. The additions to the waterpark is a plus. It makes it more of a regional park. And with the way things are going in the business today (all of the hotel/ waterparks being built) the waterpark industry is booming.

Those rides were taken out for the plain fact that they are good rides in a park that was not doing them any justice. They were also easy rides to take out- basically built on rather flat land. It was purely a business decision.

[FOFirehawkFAN]

Sorry apparently I hit a nerve there, and I do agree with what you all are saying. But the park was doing quite well untill Six Flags over developed it, and if they had taken it slower it could still be an awesome park, I will always hate Six Flags for that.

[padfoot714]

I think that GL is going to continue to expand the waterpark whilst simultaneously losing dry rides to other parks. I could see some of the rides going to Michigan's Adventure and Dorney Park in order to make lower cost improvements to those parks. I don't think KI will get another GL ride in the near future because Kinzel shows such a fondness for the park I think he wants to make some novel improvements rather than just shipping some hand-me-down rides from other CF parks.

[The Interpreter]

Sorry apparently I hit a nerve there, and I do agree with what you all are saying. But the park was doing quite well untill Six Flags over developed it, and if they had taken it slower it could still be an awesome park, I will always hate Six Flags for that.

Everyone involved in that decision is gone from Six Flags. Hating Six Flags for that is a lot like hating Ford Motor Company for something Robert McNamara did....

This is a totally different company than Gary Story's Six Flags.

[FOFirehawkFAN]

I think that GL is going to continue to expand the waterpark whilst simultaneously losing dry rides to other parks. I could see some of the rides going to Michigan's Adventure and Dorney Park in order to make lower cost improvements to those parks. I don't think KI will get another GL ride in the near future because Kinzel shows such a fondness for the park I think he wants to make some novel improvements rather than just shipping some hand-me-down rides from other CF parks.

I really do agree but honestly NO ONE in the GP knows these rides are hand-me-downs. Some guy i met at KI yesterday and was talking to asked "How can they call Firehawk the only flying coaster in Ohio, what about X-flight". The only people that know are people like you and me, heck GL re-painted texas twister this year and some of the GP thinks it's a NEW ride. And also KI really REALLY needs a B&M and GL has one that they will prob get ride of soon just seems to make a lot of sense to me.

[padfoot714]

I really do agree but honestly NO ONE in the GP knows these rides are hand-me-downs. Some guy i met at KI yesterday and was talking to asked "How can they call Firehawk the only flying coaster in Ohio, what about X-flight". The only people that know are people like you and me, heck GL re-painted texas twister this year and some of the GP thinks it's a NEW ride. And also KI really REALLY needs a B&M and GL has one that they will prob get ride of soon just seems to make a lot of sense to me.

Kinzel will know and I think he would feel bad. I do agree that the GP has very little knowledge about these sorts of things. I just think Kinzel is going to want to put his own mark on KI and I don't think sending us rides built by Six Flags will satisfy that desire for him. He's going to want to put a major CF commissioned ride in the park.

[DropZone99]

I think that GL will just keep adding to the waterpark and losing rides.

Most of the rides will probably move to other CF parks.

Pretty soon i think that GL could just be one huge waterpark.

I also think that KI will get Dominator.

[Like padfoot714 said.]

[FOFirehawkFAN]

Do you think ALL of geauga lake will become a waterpark or just the sea world side and the ride side will be sold?

[Kennywooddude]

Even if the it becomes a waterpark, it will eventually fail like every other waterpark in the area. The think about GL was that you got into the ride park and the waterpark for one price. Ride some rides in the morning, then head to the waterpark in the hot afternoon then back to the ride side for a few more runs on Dominator before closing.

[jzarley]

^ What area waterparks have failed?

[FOFirehawkFAN]

Seriously what other area water parks have been there? And also if what you say is true then the rides would be much more popular than they are, the whole reason they will start to take dry rides out is because everyone just goes to the waterpark. Also to be honest Ill be going but only cause I have a Maxx Pass and All Ohio Parking Pass and I will not spend a single dime there, maybe if a drink wasn't $4 and a hamburger and fries $6.