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  1. Perhaps James asked them to not name a coaster after him??
    8 points
  2. The park has had two Hampton rides, one which I believe was removed in the 1980s, the other which remains today. The picture is one of these two: -Autocat, which underwent a couple name changes. Titles included Huck's Hot Rods, Go Diego Go, and Peanuts' Off-Road Rally. It was relocated within the area in 2006. -Motor Mouse, which *may* have also been Boo Boo's Buggies and Peeway Raceway (if not, then Autocat went by those names for a while). I'm fairly confident it was removed in the mid-1980s. Here's a couple I've spotted over the years. None are mine. Notice how it was repainted a darker brown at some point. The Ferris Wheel opened in 1978 and last operated in 1990 or 1991 (I'm learning towards 1990). Despite being at the park for well over a decade, there is very little information on it. It was manufactured by Eli Bridge though, who also manufactured Scrambler.
    8 points
  3. That being said, on his worst day, Tony does a three times better job promoting Cedar Point than does he who would want me to say his name at Kentucky Kingdom does on his best day.
    8 points
  4. Thought this was worthy of bringing up again. I'm happy Cedar Point is partnering with a worthwhile organization. Unfortunately, it's gotten to the point where they'd be better off keeping their social media outlets quiet until they announce whatever it is they're ultimately going to do and release all of the details - including this recent news - all at once. This whole thing just has a very juvenile vibe to it. I don't think it's entirely juvenline. Let's take out the fact that a charity is involved for a moment. In the past two weeks they've said that there was going to be a "major" announcement. That "major" announcement was a teaser video for another announcement. They told the entire world a few months ago that they would rename a coaster King James if Lebron came back to Cleveleland. He did, and Cedar Point was left with a foot in their mouth. Now, several months later, they announce a partnership with his charity. The whole partnership is great and all, but that wasn't what Cedar Point promised. They specifically said that they'd name a coaster after him... and they failed to deliver. Just another reason why @cedarpoint and @tonyclarkcp are not on my list of people to follow, Stuff like this... all the time. Life's too short to try to decode a pile of wood that Tony Tweets about that turns out to be nothing.
    7 points
  5. No. Only if it is claimed the information is confirmed by the park. See the TOS. Q. Wouldn't it be assumed that anything posted by "The Beach Waterpark" in fact speaks in the name of said park and is endorsed by them? Terp, who likes to ask questions.
    7 points
  6. At the same time though, one example is more extreme than the other. And is the "GP" really upset over this? Let's be honest, aside from KIC and PointBuzz who even really remembers or will care whether or not Cedar Point makes good on its goofy promise to rename a roller coaster after LeBron James?
    6 points
  7. I gotta say, i applaud the outcome of this. This is more of a community based outcome, rather than being centered around one person who already has everything he could want/need. Both decided to join in a effort to make northeast Ohio a better place. Im glad it turned out this way. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
    6 points
  8. Fox Sports picked it up. http://www.foxsports.com/ohio/story/cedar-point-won-t-name-coaster-after-lebron-but-will-do-something-else-091614 I stand by what I said, but hey... Coverage is coverage. I don't think you're seeing the point (or at least how I see it). It's about integrity. I, like anyone else in the right mind, am glad they aren't naming a coaster after King James, and am even more glad that they are using this for good... but there's more to the story than that. As I said in an earlier post: I still think they honestly thought he wasn't coming back, and when he did it put them in a scramble. They needed to do something, and doing nothing wasn't an option. They said they were going to rename a coaster Whether you think that's a good idea or not, they said it and they chose not to follow through. If you're wondering why enthusiasts and the GP aren't happy, imagine this: Let's say that KI Tweets out that if Jay Bruce is traded that they'd remove The Beast. Two weeks later, he's unexpectedly traded. There's pandemonium for the next few months as the park sits quietly. Finally they announce, "LOL JK We are donating to charity instead!!! #KIBestDay" No one would be happy about that. If you say you're going to do something, then do it. Be prepared to live with the consequences though.
    5 points
  9. ^ Never be afraid to learn or to admit when you don't know (or have bad information). No one is always right. People replying to your posts were not trying to make fun of you. Content posted to public message boards is subject to critique from other contributors. The hope is that people learn from each other and have an enjoyable discussion. If someone claims that your statement is inaccurate, it can help to do some research before posting a rebuttal. Reading the same argument over and over is annoying to your audience.
    5 points
  10. I was reading the descriptions for everything on the site, and I'm sorry, but this rhyme is downright horrible:
    4 points
  11. I am disappointed that Holiday Horror will not be returning this year. It was a good haunted house to take people who are new to the whole haunted house thing.
    4 points
  12. Cedar Point made this comment on Facebook, underneath the LJFF announcement:
    4 points
  13. So wait, let me get this straight...Most people complained of how "stupid" it was that CP was going to name a ride after LeBron, and now that they didn't, people are mad that they didn't follow through on their word? Sheesh, only in the enthusiast world could partnering with a worthwhile charity instead of renaming a coaster seem like a bad thing.
    4 points
  14. Actually I know that Disney was interested since they did make a bid but unfortunately the economy went bad so they dropped their bid. YES Cedar Fair tried to go with Apollo since they were in serious trouble, it had nothing to do with Kinzel. The companies that were interested in buying the Paramount Parks were Disney, Universal, Seaworld/Busch Gardens, Herschened, Six Flags, Merlin, and Parques Reunidos. I just wish that people could be more open minded about other companies owning KI and just use their imagination about what would KI look like under those companies! Is that too much to ask!? You've got to cool it, KIFan1. Realize that you don't have all the answers. None of us do. But some people here are much, much wiser and more well-versed in the industry than you or I. Given time and careful listening and a willingness to learn, you'll come to realize how silly some of this is. Disney owns and operates, owns, or licenses its likeness to world-class, international-destination parks in leading global cities: Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tokyo, Paris, Los Angeles... Consider: do you really think that Disney considered - much less made an actual bid - for a chain of seasonal coaster thrill parks throughout the Midwest? Come on. Think about that. I'm sure you've heard from a friend of a friend whose cousin worked at Kings Island back then that Disney made an offer. You're being told now by those much wiser and more versed in the industry that it's not true. You don't have to believe it, but think about it. Universal, as the Interpreter mentioned, was at the time owned by a company eager to unload non-core business assets. They didn't want their own parks, much less to acquire more. Herschend couldn't have afforded the Paramount Parks... Not to buy them or to keep them running if they had. And you say Cedar Fair bit off more than it could chew, and you wish HERSCHEND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT had bought the parks? Oh, my... Six Flags was under massive debt. In 2004, they unloaded all of their European parks and Ohio's Worlds of Adventure (selling it at a MASSIVE loss... tens of millions of dollars less than what they'd spent on the park in the five years prior). They next years, they closed or sold Six Flags AstroWorld, Frontier City and Whitewater Bay just to try to make some money to avoid bankruptcy as the company's stock plummeted. They sold an additional six parks in 2007... right about the time that you claim they made an offer to BUY Paramount Parks for a billion dollars! (By the way, Six Flags ended up filing for bankruptcy just two years later... And you think they were in a buying mood?!) Anheuser-Busch, like Universal, was eager to let go of the theme parks in its portfolio, not take on more. It was a time when companies were unloading their non-core assets. CBS / Paramount / Viacom was a production company. Even if the parks were nice, they were not part of their core business. Owning parks did not benefit their production company or studios. Same with Anheuser-Busch, whose business was beer. As nice as the parks were, they were NOT part of the core business, so they were to be unloaded. The point is that, to those of us who have been around / been in the industry / were here on Kings Island message boards before, during, and after the Paramount Parks sale, it sounds really silly for you to say, "The following companies were interested in buying the Paramount Parks:" then proceed to list every amusement park operator you can think of. No matter what you've heard from friends or what you've told your friends so many times it seems true, there are actual facts to consider, and people who actually have memories of that time. Similarly, some of us were around during the Apollo debacle. Some of us here are privy to the inside information, and have an intimate understanding of the ins-and-outs of that transaction. It's alright that you don't. I don't either. But trust the folks who do before you decide you know all of the information and go around spouting it. Your friends might blindly go, "Wow! I didn't know that!" But here, you're among folks who actually know their stuff. Herschend buying the Paramount Parks? Just... relax. You don't have to pretend to be an insider. We've all got a lot to learn. Sit back, relax, read, search, think, and ask questions. It's fun to imagine what a Disney's Kings Island could / could've looked like. It's another for you to tell us matter-of-factly that Disney made an offer to buy some roller coaster thrill park in Ohio. It's just not true. Sorry.
    4 points
  15. Heh, yeah. Who would ever trust an Intamin observation tower from the 1970s? See also.
    3 points
  16. ^No problem, glad I could help. Just a friendly tip though, no need to quote the pictures too - you can delete them in the quoted post, and that way the page will load faster and be less cluttered for other readers. The blogger who posted the photo, Dan Alexander Dizmentia, is apparently really concerned with concealing the identity of him and his cousins... in pictures from 26-years-ago. Here's what he specifically said in the post: And here's the post, for the curious: http://danalexanderdizmentia.blogspot.com/2011/10/scooby-doo-where-were-you-kings-island.html
    3 points
  17. Thought this was worthy of bringing up again. I'm happy Cedar Point is partnering with a worthwhile organization. Unfortunately, it's gotten to the point where they'd be better off keeping their social media outlets quiet until they announce whatever it is they're ultimately going to do and release all of the details - including this recent news - all at once. This whole thing just has a very juvenile vibe to it.
    3 points
  18. I miss Reptar at Nickelodeon. Always like the topiary designs at the park. Sent from my iPhone using Taptalk
    3 points
  19. Or, dare I say, impastas! Wow that was dumb...
    3 points
  20. Nik Wallenda 8/15/09. Sent from my iPhone using Taptalk
    3 points
  21. You lost all credibility saying Six Flags was interested. In 2006, it was all they could do to stay afloat. Again, there are those here with intimate personal knowledge of the matter. With that, I'm out of this one. Carry on with the dreams of competing Wingriders, etc.
    3 points
  22. No. Mr. Kinzel is who wanted to sell to Apollo for his own personal and family and cronies' benefits. Disney was not interested and did not bid. Had Disney wanted the CBS Parks, they would have gotten them. There are those here who know far more than was ever publicly disclosed about this matter and they won't be disclosing information not already public.
    3 points
  23. World Famous Mermaids to Splash into Newport Aquarium Special, Limited-Engagement begins Oct. 10 – for 10 days only NEWPORT, Ky. – For the first time in Greater Cincinnati, the world-famous Weeki Wachee Mermaids will entertain Newport Aquarium guests Oct. 10-19. Free with Newport Aquarium admission, guests will be able to view a real-life mermaid, clad in a colorful fish-tailed costume, swimming underwater from 11 a.m. until 4 p.m. each day. The mermaids will dive in the aquarium’s 60,000-gallon Coral Reef exhibit that features nearly 200 aquatic animals and more than 50 species of fish. Guests will also be able to personally meet and talk with a mermaid, as well as have their pictures taken in the aquarium’s Shark Ray Bay Theater from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. and 2 to 4 p.m. each day. “Kids have been entertained by watching mermaids on television and movies their entire lives,” said Chad Showalter, senior marketing manager at Newport Aquarium. “Now they’ll have the opportunity to have an up-close encounter with a real-life mermaid. It’ll be an experience they’ll never forget.” Additional mermaid encounters at Newport Aquarium will be available throughout the 10-day engagement, including a mermaid-themed Overnight Adventure and Breakfast with a Mermaid. Tickets are limited and details on how to purchase tickets are available on the Newport Aquarium website, NewportAquarium.com. The mermaids are travelling from Weeki Wachee Springs State Park, a freshwater spring north of Tampa, Fla., home of underwater mermaid appearances and performances since 1947.
    2 points
  24. Renaming a ride and removing your signature ride are not the same. I know you aren't a fan of Tony and the team, but come on. That's a bit of a stretch.
    2 points
  25. Kid Friendly Halloween Celebration Begins September 27 at EnterTRAINment Junction CINCINNATI, OH – Family-friendly goblins are gathering at EnterTRAINment Junction in West Chester, ready to launch the kids’ favorite Halloween celebration Jack-O-Lantern Junction on Saturday September 27. The event runs through Sunday, Nov 2. The Halloween fun features an indoor, no-scare walk-through trick-or-treat maze featuring kid-friendly ghosts, skeletons, cobwebs and multiple treat stations. The weather is always perfect inside the climate-controlled EnterTRAINment Junction, where visitors are immediately greeted by an autumn glow, with Main Street decked out with Halloween decorations. Jack-O-Lantern Junction has the area’s only indoor Pumpkin Patch (where kids get a free mini-pumpkin), plus Halloween crafts, a talking pumpkin, and a Halloweenville miniature animated display. Outside there is an outdoor straw maze, and Halloween themed hand-cranked train cars and electric train ride (weather permitting). All of EnterTRAINment Junction’s celebrated attractions are also open, including the world’s largest indoor model train display, a giant kids’ play area, the amazing interactive replica of historic Coney Island amusement park, the “weird and wacky” A-Maze-N FunHouse, and the American Railroading Museum. Hours are Monday-Saturday 10 a.m.-6 p.m., Sundays noon-6 p.m. Attraction pricing starts at $9.95; kids 2 and under free and, as always, parking is free. EnterTRAINment Junction is located at 7379 Squire Ct., in West Chester. More information: (513) 898-8000. www.entertrainmentjunction.com.
    2 points
  26. Wait, there's an Auntie Anne's now at KI? OOOOOOHHH, I gotta get back to KI. I love their pretzels. Especially those bite sized cinnamon ones. Sorry for the off-topic post, but I couldn't get past Ryan's mention of Auntie Anne's.
    2 points
  27. The problem with your Adventure Express comparison is that there is no one at EPCOT protesting the removal of the ride. If Kings Island tries to get rid of Adventure Express I know of at least one person (maybe two) who would come ready to fight.
    2 points
  28. Isn't it here that if one claims to have information they have to provide a source when sharing the information?
    2 points
  29. Nah. They could totally pull it off. But it'll be expensive, so they should ignore the recommendations of the manufacturer and just do everything in house. What could possibly go wrong?
    2 points
  30. I've ridden KI's Flying Dutchman many times! In fact, I've ridden it as recently as two weeks ago! In fact, in the last two weeks, I've ridden both their Flying Dutchman AND their Flying Dutchman Coaster!
    2 points
  31. I'm loving how many non-announcements Cedar Point has been putting out there so far. Wake me when we get something tangible.
    2 points
  32. Muskegon gets far worse weather than Toronto, too, being on the Great Lakes. It gets lake effect snows and high winds that Toronto doesn't. As an example, Muskegon's average winter snowfall is 102 inches. Toronto gets less than half that, at 48.
    2 points
  33. ^ Details have yet to be released. Lights-on tours of mazes almost certainly won't happen at night, as they are scheduled to operate then.
    2 points
  34. Dino! I remember loving riding the two carousels as a child. Seeing my youngest niece and nephew as happy now to ride them as I was then...that is a great feeling. This was taken in 1983.
    2 points
  35. If in some parallel universe Disney did buy Kings Island I got a feeling most rides would of had their theming changed to reflect their brands. Could see them easily turning Adventure Express into a Snow White-esque ride for example. It would of been nice though to have a Disney themed park in the Midwest as it would be much more accessible than driving down to Florida for the nearest park. Maybe we can have a Kentucky Enchanted Kingdom park.
    2 points
  36. I may be the only one (or not) but if Disney would have bought Kings Island, I know one family with its extended family would have been super beyond happy to ride The Beast and hang with Mickey.
    2 points
  37. .....And monitored frequently for capitlization of Trademarked names such as Kings Island, The Beast even. So much has changed on this road, people here, people gone, places here, places gone, so much will change in the future too, as it is forever changing.
    2 points
  38. On the other side of the spectrum, it's incredibly irritating to have my experience ruined because the monsters are being tame and caring, all because some parents brought their too-young child into the maze.
    2 points
  39. Why would a parent take a kid through events like this? If you are wondering your kids is too young then they are.
    2 points
  40. No. August Busch IV had absolutely NO interest in the parks. He was plotting, even then, a way to sell the company and make millions and millions, as he eventually did, to InBev.
    2 points
  41. Disney wasn't interested. Herschend couldn't have afforded it. Universal's then owners wanted out of the business, and got out. Cedar Fair has done well, especially after Mr. Kinzel's attempt to sell out the unit holders and enrich himself and his family and cronies failed and he was subsequently ousted.
    2 points
  42. Construction of the station of The Italian Job Stunt Track, now known as Backlot Stunt Coaster. February 15, 2005
    2 points
  43. Actually I know that Disney was interested since they did make a bid but unfortunately the economy went bad so they dropped their bid. YES Cedar Fair tried to go with Apollo since they were in serious trouble, it had nothing to do with Kinzel. The companies that were interested in buying the Paramount Parks were Disney, Universal, Seaworld/Busch Gardens, Herschened, Six Flags, Merlin, and Parques Reunidos. I just wish that people could be more open minded about other companies owning KI and just use their imagination about what would KI look like under those companies! Is that too much to ask!? You've got to cool it, KIFan1. Realize that you don't have all the answers. None of us do. But some people here are much, much wiser and more well-versed in the industry than you or I. Given time and careful listening and a willingness to learn, you'll come to realize how silly some of this is. Disney owns and operates, owns, or licenses its likeness to world-class, international-destination parks in leading global cities: Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tokyo, Paris, Los Angeles... Consider: do you really think that Disney considered - much less made an actual bid - for a chain of seasonal coaster thrill parks throughout the Midwest? Come on. Think about that. I'm sure you've heard from a friend of a friend whose cousin worked at Kings Island back then that Disney made an offer. You're being told now by those much wiser and more versed in the industry that it's not true. You don't have to believe it, but think about it. Universal, as the Interpreter mentioned, was at the time owned by a company eager to unload non-core business assets. They didn't want their own parks, much less to acquire more. Herschend couldn't have afforded the Paramount Parks... Not to buy them or to keep them running if they had. And you say Cedar Fair bit off more than it could chew, and you wish HERSCHEND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT had bought the parks? Oh, my... Six Flags was under massive debt. In 2004, they unloaded all of their European parks and Ohio's Worlds of Adventure (selling it at a MASSIVE loss... tens of millions of dollars less than what they'd spent on the park in the five years prior). They next years, they closed or sold Six Flags AstroWorld, Frontier City and Whitewater Bay just to try to make some money to avoid bankruptcy as the company's stock plummeted. They sold an additional six parks in 2007... right about the time that you claim they made an offer to BUY Paramount Parks for a billion dollars! (By the way, Six Flags ended up filing for bankruptcy just two years later... And you think they were in a buying mood?!) Anheuser-Busch, like Universal, was eager to let go of the theme parks in its portfolio, not take on more. It was a time when companies were unloading their non-core assets. CBS / Paramount / Viacom was a production company. Even if the parks were nice, they were not part of their core business. Owning parks did not benefit their production company or studios. Same with Anheuser-Busch, whose business was beer. As nice as the parks were, they were NOT part of the core business, so they were to be unloaded. The point is that, to those of us who have been around / been in the industry / were here on Kings Island message boards before, during, and after the Paramount Parks sale, it sounds really silly for you to say, "The following companies were interested in buying the Paramount Parks:" then proceed to list every amusement park operator you can think of. No matter what you've heard from friends or what you've told your friends so many times it seems true, there are actual facts to consider, and people who actually have memories of that time. Similarly, some of us were around during the Apollo debacle. Some of us here are privy to the inside information, and have an intimate understanding of the ins-and-outs of that transaction. It's alright that you don't. I don't either. But trust the folks who do before you decide you know all of the information and go around spouting it. Your friends might blindly go, "Wow! I didn't know that!" But here, you're among folks who actually know their stuff. Herschend buying the Paramount Parks? Just... relax. You don't have to pretend to be an insider. We've all got a lot to learn. Sit back, relax, read, search, think, and ask questions. It's fun to imagine what a Disney's Kings Island could / could've looked like. It's another for you to tell us matter-of-factly that Disney made an offer to buy some roller coaster thrill park in Ohio. It's just not true. Sorry. Actually I know that Disney was interested since they did make a bid but unfortunately the economy went bad so they dropped their bid. YES Cedar Fair tried to go with Apollo since they were in serious trouble, it had nothing to do with Kinzel. The companies that were interested in buying the Paramount Parks were Disney, Universal, Seaworld/Busch Gardens, Herschened, Six Flags, Merlin, and Parques Reunidos. I just wish that people could be more open minded about other companies owning KI and just use their imagination about what would KI look like under those companies! Is that too much to ask!? You've got to cool it, KIFan1. Realize that you don't have all the answers. None of us do. But some people here are much, much wiser and more well-versed in the industry than you or I. Given time and careful listening and a willingness to learn, you'll come to realize how silly some of this is. Disney owns and operates, owns, or licenses its likeness to world-class, international-destination parks in leading global cities: Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tokyo, Paris, Los Angeles... Consider: do you really think that Disney considered - much less made an actual bid - for a chain of seasonal coaster thrill parks throughout the Midwest? Come on. Think about that. I'm sure you've heard from a friend of a friend whose cousin worked at Kings Island back then that Disney made an offer. You're being told now by those much wiser and more versed in the industry that it's not true. You don't have to believe it, but think about it. Universal, as the Interpreter mentioned, was at the time owned by a company eager to unload non-core business assets. They didn't want their own parks, much less to acquire more. Herschend couldn't have afforded the Paramount Parks... Not to buy them or to keep them running if they had. And you say Cedar Fair bit off more than it could chew, and you wish HERSCHEND FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT had bought the parks? Oh, my... Six Flags was under massive debt. In 2004, they unloaded all of their European parks and Ohio's Worlds of Adventure (selling it at a MASSIVE loss... tens of millions of dollars less than what they'd spent on the park in the five years prior). They next years, they closed or sold Six Flags AstroWorld, Frontier City and Whitewater Bay just to try to make some money to avoid bankruptcy as the company's stock plummeted. They sold an additional six parks in 2007... right about the time that you claim they made an offer to BUY Paramount Parks for a billion dollars! (By the way, Six Flags ended up filing for bankruptcy just two years later... And you think they were in a buying mood?!) Anheuser-Busch, like Universal, was eager to let go of the theme parks in its portfolio, not take on more. It was a time when companies were unloading their non-core assets. CBS / Paramount / Viacom was a production company. Even if the parks were nice, they were not part of their core business. Owning parks did not benefit their production company or studios. Same with Anheuser-Busch, whose business was beer. As nice as the parks were, they were NOT part of the core business, so they were to be unloaded. The point is that, to those of us who have been around / been in the industry / were here on Kings Island message boards before, during, and after the Paramount Parks sale, it sounds really silly for you to say, "The following companies were interested in buying the Paramount Parks:" then proceed to list every amusement park operator you can think of. No matter what you've heard from friends or what you've told your friends so many times it seems true, there are actual facts to consider, and people who actually have memories of that time. Similarly, some of us were around during the Apollo debacle. Some of us here are privy to the inside information, and have an intimate understanding of the ins-and-outs of that transaction. It's alright that you don't. I don't either. But trust the folks who do before you decide you know all of the information and go around spouting it. Your friends might blindly go, "Wow! I didn't know that!" But here, you're among folks who actually know their stuff. Herschend buying the Paramount Parks? Just... relax. You don't have to pretend to be an insider. We've all got a lot to learn. Sit back, relax, read, search, think, and ask questions. It's fun to imagine what a Disney's Kings Island could / could've looked like. It's another for you to tell us matter-of-factly that Disney made an offer to buy some roller coaster thrill park in Ohio. It's just not true. Sorry. I'm good. I just get upset when I ask people to use their imaginations on other companies owning KI and they just try to make me look stupid. You showed a more informative way so I like your response. It's just others where it looks like their making fun if me. (I've been bullied before and I often take things they wrong way. So I apologize to everyone for my attitude.)
    1 point
  44. A 500 ft wooden coaster seems a little dangerous.
    1 point
  45. Bush Gardens Williamsburg has an Irish section and a great Irish dancing show. The show is great and they even offer a dinner where you get to meet with the performers. I wish Kings Island would bring back some of that international charm that it once had and the shops on international street were truly international.
    1 point
  46. Re: Cars, I'm not surprised. Disney's Hollywood Studios is in desperate need of a full, California Adventure style re-build from the ground up. Cars Land was at one point rumored to be the anchor of that renovation. Supposedly, Walt Disney World management didn't like the price tag, so they pared it down to just Radiator Springs Racers (the headlining ride) then got nervous about that cost and decided to copy the dark ride portion but leave out the race / Cadillac Range / mountain peaks. In other words, they'd reduced Cars Land to a 5 minute dark ride in a big boxy show-building. Because Hollywood Studios doesn't have enough of those. Back to Maelstrom, I think it's silly for either party to pretend it's black and white. Johnny has fantastic memories of Adventure Express. Adventure Express is the first ride he ever rode at a theme park that would become one of his favorites (so much so that he joined an online discussion board about the park) Adventure Express was the last ride he rode with his grandpa. Adventure Express is a fun ride that his whole family can ride together. Adventure Express reminds him of how Kings Island "used to be" back in its "glory days." Getting rid of Adventure Express would fundamentally change the feeling of Kings Island to Johnny. Sure it doesn't match up with the park's newest additions, but Adventure Express is special to Johnny. "My wife and I were planning a trip to [Kings Island] next month and when I found out [Adventure Express] was going to be closed, we changed our plans" "With it's removal, it was one less thing there that I liked to do." "It might not have been the BEST ride at [Kings Island], but it was rather unique in my opinion." - versus - Jack couldn't care less about Adventure Express. Adventure Express is the ride that scared him as a kid. Adventure Express always has a long wait and he just can't understand why. If you ask Jack, Adventure Express is a leftover remnant of a bygone era. Jack has seen was Paramount Parks and Cedar Fair can do, and Adventure Express is way below par. Adventure Express gives Kings Island a bad name, in Jack's opinion. The land Adventure Express sits on could be used by something much better that would make the park more money. "[Adventure Express] is a sub par ride, with horrible capacity and no real story." "Be honest: has anyone ever visited [Kings Island] solely to ride [Adventure Express]?" "Those of you that are so upset of the removal of [Adventure Express], have you ever ridden [Adventure Express]?" Who's right? Who's wrong? Replace "Adventure Express" and "Kings Island" with Maelstrom and Epcot and you'll find exact quotes from users here. It's overly simplistic to say "I don't care for this ride for x, y, and z so anyone who cares about its removal is dumb." It's equally simplistic to say "I have cherished memories of this ride and always loved it for a, b, and c so it should stay open forever." It's always upsetting to see a ride closed - even one I didn't personally enjoy - because I know there are Johnnys out there for each and every attraction from Son of Beast to "it's a small world," Geauga Lake to Conneaut. As for Maelstrom going Frozen, I maintain that I'm neither jumping with joy NOR inconsolably upset... yet. There were those who lamented the loss of the parking lot to Disney California Adventure. Were they right or wrong? Hmm...
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  47. Some things never cease to amaze me. For the last few years the inter-webs have been abuzz with how Disney is so slow to role a new attraction out and to capitalize on what could be a lucrative addition to the parks. The comparison is always made between Universal and Harry Potter. Yet Disney is always lambasted for being slow to react and implement new things in the parks. Now comes Frozen and Disney is moving much quicker, yet the inter-webs are upset over Maelstrom? Maelstrom? Really, Maelstrom? A sub par ride, with horrible capacity and no real story. Be honest has anyone ever visited Epcot to solely ride Maelstrom? I think not. Those of you that are so upset of the removal of Maelstrom, have you ever ridden Maelstrom? Sorry it does not stack up to other Disney rides, Trolls, Oil Rigs and Polar Bears Oh My... My head hurts. They aren't removing Its a Small World or Splash Mountain for a new Frozen attraction, its Maelstrom. Did I mention its Maelstrom, a disjointed story of Norwegian Propaganda. The original version was to solely be based around trolls, not Oil Rigs and Polar Bears Lets talk about Frozen. Frozen is the most successful animated film of all time. Of All Time, just in case you missed it the first time. Almost $1.3 Billion worldwide, if that isn't an instant classic I am not sure what is. For those that like rankings and lists of such it is currently the 5th highest grossing movie of all time and won a few Academy Awards, a Golden Globe and a few others, but who cares what the industry and critics think. I can tell you what my daughter and her friends think. Frozen has become ingrained in their minds and their social interactions. Be it singing Let it Go, pretending to be Queen Elsa (Much more popular than Anna) or just discussing how cute it would be to have a pet reindeer. Frozen is still on the tips of their tongues and the front of their minds a year after watching the movie in the theaters. I have never seen anything like it and when discussing going to Disney and the possibility of meeting Anna and Elsa, well the screams are so high pitched only dogs could hear it. In the end Disney has set the bar so incredibly high that fanboys are always abuzz over displeasure in Disney's inability to bring new attractions to market quickly, the removal of older less popular attractions for new experiences, and how dare a crane show up during my Disney vacation. Follow some of the Disney News Sites out there and watch how they make a big deal over cranes and construction walls, yet make the same big deal that Disney never installs new attractions around current popular characters in a timely manner. Basically when you are as big and successful as Disney and do so many things right you cannot please everyone. Yet Joe Park Guest and his family will love the new Frozen attraction, will not realize it replaced a lackluster Norwegian boat ride, and Epcot will be a must visit park now. Let it Go...
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  48. We will hopefully get a Troika in like-new condition!
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  49. I have never been much of a fan of stand ups. I loved Chang. I know people don't understand that at all. Shockwave was ok. I hate the restraints on stand ups. More times than not, if I do not like a certain type of coaster it boils down to not liking the restraints.
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