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  1. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette. Alternately, some times you have to plunge a toilet to flush a turd. For too long, alot of management at the company has been turds. Flush them out. With less passes sold, maybe they will take notice and new blood can reinvorgarate. The problem with a park like KI that is highly penetrated is that people will still come. Nostalgia can be a stronger motivator than price. KI is hurting from too much penetration.
    6 points
  2. (You’re right, though. Totally nailed it.)
    5 points
  3. Passes and meal plans, etc. were too cheap. Maybe this could (in hindsight) be looked at as an over correction a year or two from now, but the reality of of the situation is that they spent years giving away the gate, handing out meal plans for a “dime,” and watched as the masses poured in. It’s not so much that the majority of passholders “abused” the situation, but it’s obvious, post merger, that that model is not sustainable in this new Six Flags reality. Seen plenty of plenty of negative reactions online about this today. These are a lot of the same folks who bragged about much “advantage” they got out of their pass, dining/drink plan, etc. Interpret that however you want. Theres a balance. At the end of the day, the situation is what it is. Between the merger and the ultimate failed strategy of passholder add-ons, cheap passes, and whatever… things have changed. The price of gold/prestige passes have, for a long time, been priced way under what they should have, market value be darned. Look no further than the returns, reaction, and overall value when it comes to attendance vs. in-park spending. Whether it’s Disney or Six Flags, less can be more if/when it comes to attendance if guest are still spending money. And in many cases, guests are still willing to renew and pay regardless. That being a good or bad thing is certainly up for debate. Trimming the fat, increasing prices, etc., I hope would/will result in a higher quality output in terms of new additions, cleanliness, added events, and more. Look no further than Haunt. Sure, it’s an upcharge now when it historically wasn’t, but the quality of the event been better, right? I mean… Conjuring? Order of the Dragon? The reported $60k investment in the new Jason maze? Not to mention the concerns about crowds, clientele, and beyond. I personally don’t want to see anyone out-priced from visiting KI the same way I want to be able to take my family to Disneyland without selling a kidney. But it’s hypocritical to celebrate the perceived value of season passes, drink and meal plans, perks, etc., and then turn around and complain about crowds, added retail/alcohol sales, increased prices, lack of non, thrilling “thoosie additions.” I don’t care for the majority of any of these changes. But I’m personally willing to let my dollar go farther when it comes to the overall park experience, given the current status of the chain as a whole. And ironically, it’s not all bad. Look at the aforementioned Haunt experience, PT:OE, certain food experiences, operations… I mean, it’s stellar. But that’s not to say there hasn’t been a handful of miserable fails over the last season or two. Because there are plenty. At the end of the day, I hate to come across like a fanny pack wearing, apologist, thoosie chud. but looking at this as an opportunity to “right the ship” and increase quality as a whole could be for the best. If corporate is committed to that. That’s a big “If.” Who knows. Shareholders are weird. Business is weird. Eh. I don’t know, gang. It’s ultimately irrelevant in the grand scheme of it all, in life, and everything. This is what’s supposed to make me happy…. More importantly, what’s your favorite seat on Adventure Express? I need some levity and optimism.
    5 points
  4. A Camden Park season pass is $160 plus another $40 for parking for those that want to say it’s too expensive.
    5 points
  5. When you go to watch BeachBlast X-Treme! and you see the last Vice President and General Manager of Kings Island, Mike Koontz, in the audience with you. Mike says he is enjoying retirement and doing well!
    5 points
  6. I think the problem is that there's no indication that there will be any actual improvements to the guest experience next year to go along with the increased prices. Even just publishing an operating calendar, committing to continuing Winterfest, and publishing a menu for their $400 dining plan would go a long way, but I don't think it's surprising that people aren't happy about a place that's gone downhill so much over the last few years demanding more money from them. The slight increase in pass prices isn't going to help with the crowding or clientele issues, and the ruining of the dining plan just makes me think there will be even more reduced staffing and reduced availability for food next year.
    4 points
  7. I just chalk it up to the usual formula of when companies expand and get too large too quickly there are so many details that get minced along the way. And while this merger is still in its infancy and still trying to figure out what it wants to be when it grows up, this feels significantly more painful to witness and experience than the before times when CF acquired the Paramount chain. Things just feel so disjointed in a way that continues to confuse and dilute whatever image this mess is trying to cultivate. I realize there is a lot to do here and I want to believe that the end goal will be a more cohesive, polished product. But the lack of clear communication, the constant switching up on the guest and the lack of passionate and excited announcements just gives way to a very corporate focused mindset vs. a clear focus on the guest experience/satisfaction. Who knows what any of this will look like in the next 5 years. Who knows if this merger will even last that long. I just hope that whatever happens, things tighten up and improve with far less confusion/switching-up and a lot more clear communication and consistency.
    4 points
  8. How is your narrative for someone who claims they haven’t been in the park for almost two months? How would you have an accurate idea of what’s open and what’s not if you're not even around? It’s easy to cherry pick what you need to fit your arguments, whether they be true or not. Notice, no one mentioned you by name, blog, YouTube channel, podcast, or whatever. But you felt the need to make it about your own opinion, regardless. Is this about the reality of the situation or about your ill will toward the park for personal reasons? Personally, my life doesn’t rely on the food and beverage situation at the park for better or worse, especially if I haven’t visited in “59 days.” I’ve never been one to mince words or hide any criticisms when it comes to the park experience and how things are. I’d even argue that I can be overtly vocal about said criticisms, to a fault. But this vendetta you’ve got going on is just silly. Even within this thread, I’ve joked about the consistent closures of other drink stands in the park. I‘m a realist. And this isn’t that serious. But I’m not going to sit on the sidelines and claim the sky is falling when I’m not even visiting the park regularly. Mostly because I have enough going on in my life, otherwise, to let this affect me. But more importantly, I like to enjoy the things I enjoy, and have a greater understanding of what’s actually important in the grand scheme of life as a whole. Makes me a happier person, and more enjoyable to be around. Just a bad look, all around. This is coming from a fan and regular listener of Tower Topics and an email subscriber of your blog. Dude, there are more important things in life. Plenty to be upset about. Really. The drink stands can open and close day to day. The ice situation is what it is. But by and large, these issues are being exaggerated for personal reasons alone. Be critical when it’s constructive to be. But to harp on this over and over again is just miserable. It’s not that serious. Chill.
    3 points
  9. I think it's generally an unwise business practice, though I also have a feeling that the company does not lose out on that much money all things considered. The type of people who are likely to visit parks in more than two regions are also probably the type who are willing to spend more in the parks. As with the rest of the season pass/membership sales I think seeing the numbers would help us understand a lot. The current leadership team probably does see the looming hand of bankruptcy coming down at some point and could be working to lead the company away from it. John Reilly especially is trying to at least improve the guest experience with what he has. If that leads to Six Flags declaring bankruptcy even after the quality upgrades then that's what will happen. We'll see corporate reorganization, parks sold off, and maybe even some parks closed. In that case I just hope Kings Island can be part of a new company instead of being handed over to Herschend. They're too big for what they need to be IMO. Their hands are in too many pots for them to hold any more big ones. If Six Flags ends up selling more parks, I don't think it would be until 2028. Unless they want a repeat of 2026 with the sale of 7 parks it just doesn't seem like a good idea if they can help it. All of this said, my field is creative arts and planning so I'm also not the most in-the-know about good business practices. I just call it as I see it.
    3 points
  10. Unless more property’s are sold. I can’t envision Six Flags avoiding bankruptcy at this point. Too little too late to be jacking the prices up to what it is so far for the 2027 season. Not suggesting what they are asking for is wrong per se but doubling the price on add ons is going to be a hard pill to swallow for most folks. This price point should have been achieved by steadily increasing the prices on these add-ons and passes since post-covid when the parks saw a boom. But the past is the past and I hope this works out for them. Considering Legacy SF attempted to jack up their prices only to reverse course doesn't give me much hope that it will.
    3 points
  11. I feel weird about all of this. I totally understand the reasoning and justification for raising prices to basically give a better experience for guests. But as a teacher with a young family... it's hard out there right now financially...
    3 points
  12. Right, this an opinion. Which you are absolutely entitled to, like everyone else. But to phrase it as fact (based on your own feelings and opinions) is misleading, and is maybe 50/50 at best. You have an equal chance at being right or wrong. No insight there. Do you want to circle back with me about the 2026 family thrill coaster? Or about the screen/projection heavy new Phantom Theater that opened this year? The fact that we can all speculate and share our wishes, opinions, and predictions is what makes this site and the fandom fun. But making baseless claims centered on your own personal rhetoric is just wrong, whether it ultimately comes true or not.
    3 points
  13. Im one who is willing to pay more for a better experince but if I am paying more I better see ice at the drink stands and all the drink stations open and working. I have also noticed the parks gardens are very lacking this season and I thought they used to compete with the Cincinnati Zoo pretty well. Also I would love to see the empty spaces filled. The old days of thunder area, Vortex plot and hthe concert area.
    3 points
  14. The passes are priced higher than last year but still a very good deal. I think they are still too low. But with higher pricing comes greater expectations.
    3 points
  15. The market isn’t buying what Six Flags is trying to sell. Wall Street gave Six Flags Entertainment a chilly reception after the company released its second-quarter 2026 earnings. Shares fell more than 5% in pre-market trading as investors reacted to revenue that came in well below analyst expectations. Six Flags reported approximately $865 million in second-quarter revenue, missing the consensus forecast of $935.2 million by about $70 million. The company also posted a net loss of $203 million, compared with a $100 million loss during the same quarter last year. The year-over-year comparison is complicated by the company’s sale of seven parks to EPR Properties before the start of the 2026 operating season, reducing its operating footprint and affecting direct comparisons with last year’s results. Even so, the earnings miss appeared to fuel investor concerns about how quickly Six Flags can deliver on its post-merger turnaround strategy. UPDATE: Now down 16% as of 9:42 a.m.
    3 points
  16. The merger with Albertsons fell through because of the government that was in charge at the time blocked it. That same government was in charge when the CF, SF merger happened so I don’t think anything would have changed. But honestly the guest experience was already degrading within CF prior to the merge. Zimmer and co’s cheap passes and add-ons with hopes to make up in volume. On-top of the ripple effects from covid, ultimately caused a desperate move such as a merger with SF to be conceived, to begin with. Next year, I think a lot of people when they go to renew will be in shock with, what it appears to be the chain trying to “market correct” the pricing of season passes and add ons. From what I have seen it will be harsh.
    3 points
  17. One nice thing about a park like CP being a premier regional park/resort is that their pricing is sort of in the fat part of the bell curve, meaning that, generally speaking, anyone squeezed out of the lower end by higher priced premium products can be replaced by becoming more enticing to folks on the other end of the bell curve's tail. Or, as you put it, "Raising the price could reduce the number of people using Fast Lane, potentially creating shorter waits and a better experience for those who continue to purchase it." I think that's the main takeaway here. Previously, All Season Fast Lane was just way too inexpensive, leading to saturation and thus a poorer experience for everyone, including and especially annual multi-day visitors who may drop a substantial amount of money each year at the park, as compared to locals who could "justify" the ASFL by using it many, many times throughout the season. Hopefully this price point pushed locals and other lower-per cap visitors away from it. I do want to push back on this just a bit, because if locals and other frequent visitors were using ASFL on a regular basis, which I would guess was the case based on this price increase, pricing some of them out may actually make standby lines shorter, rather than longer, since there will be fewer people lapping them from the FL/FLP queues. In general, though, it's refreshing to see the park seemingly setting the pricing to where it should be, correcting for the bargain-pricing strategy of the Gold Pass. CP, and to a slightly lesser extent KI (and Carowinds and Canada's Wonderland), should be priced as the premium products they are, rather than become de-facto baby sitters and glorified FECs, which harms the brand and can result in a death spiral.
    2 points
  18. My recent visits to the park have been a mixed bag in terms of drink stands being open, but I will say that they've been open a lot more than I would've thought. This particular Coke Freestyle in Rivertown has been open during at least 4 out of my 5 most recent visits to the park, all at different times of day and different days of the week. Tower Drinks has been closed a lot, but I suspect that is due to that location's bee problem. Being able to get ice for my drink has also been an issue here and there, though it's nowhere near the issue it was in 2024. See my numerous simultaneous complaints and praises of the park as well as my 30-ish KI visits this season if anyone needs to see my qualifications for answering. Speaking of Tower Drinks, do you all think it would look better with a more substantial roof over top instead of an uncovered (except by the Eiffel Tower) queue? This might be a good location to turn back into a snack stand. A differently-painted copy of the new drink stand in Action Zone would look very nice here. It would all depend on how it looks on busy days. Kings Dominion uses this area for their Bandstand show booth and then has their International Street refresh station over where Graeter's is at Kings Island.
    2 points
  19. I don’t have to be there to know exactly what’s going on. People send me photos, what’s open, what’s closed every day. I have no ill will towards the park, either. False narrative on your end. I want the park to do well. I want the guest experience to be top tier.
    2 points
  20. Tower Drinks was open yesterday, with ice, regardless of what narrative anyone would like to subscribe to.
    2 points
  21. I think the new tiered meal plan is kind of smart given that they can set the price point correctly for each guest based on usage. The biggest issue for which I can see is creating confusion and causing backlash is that to the normal passholder who visits maybe 5-8 times a year don't count how many times they have redeemed a meal with their 2026 "unlimited meal plan". Therefor not realizing the 20-meal plan is for them. All they see is when it comes time to renew for 2027, they will think their dining plan price has gone up exponentially. Not realizing all they need is the 20-meal plan. They should probably list on the website a better explanation on who which tiered plan is for. So, like the 20-meal plan is great for those who visit 6-10 times a year and the 30-meal plan is for those who visits 10-15 times. Assuming the average person eats 2-3 meals a visit.
    2 points
  22. When it comes to season-pass value, the lowest price doesn’t always mean the best deal. Dollywood, Holiday World and Kennywood continue to stand out to me because of what guests get beyond rides: friendly guest service, clean and well-maintained parks, strong seasonal events and an overall sense that the guest experience matters. There’s also something to be said for integrity—delivering an experience that matches what was promised and making visitors feel valued after they’ve spent their money.
    2 points
  23. This exactly. The GP on social media is losing their mind over the pricing. Tons of "Six Flags just costed my family out of attending the park". No they didn't. The price is the same/lower than it has been in recent years. These parks existed with many more years of operation without pass add-ons. What did people do prior to 2014 (when season long meal plans were introduced or 2017 for season long FL). You either bought overpriced park food, ate before/after you visited, packed food and went out to the car, and stayed in regular lines. That is all still available to the guest at the price of admission last year. The park is not implementing a "two meal minimum" LOL (a play on requirements of some comedy clubs). You can still get in for the price you used to. And while not perfect, the meal plan offerings still provide a meal cheaper than you can get a meal at an outside restaurant. Unless the majority of passholders actually vote with their wallet and not buy a pass and refuse to visit next year, this will likely result in an increase in revenue as people skip the meal plans and then buy the occasional meal or snack that they were not buying when on the cheaper meal plans. As someone else mentioned above, this could be the long term correction the parks actually need if they can sustain the potential short term hit and not knee-jerk reaction lower the prices. But if they do as history shows and for 2028 drop all the prices tremendously, they will never recover.
    2 points
  24. The way I look at it is since I've hadd Platinum/All-Park/Prestige I've been to Cedar Point (I go every year and always stay at Breaksers, eat at Bay Harbor and Tomos, etc. so I'm spending money to SIX) Carowinds, Knotts and Six Flags Over Texas. Each time I visited the other parks besides CP I've spent money on magnets, shirts, etc. I believe others would do the same, because KI (and to a point CP) are my home parks I don't tend to spend at them. I would think that people who go to other parks also get some kind of keepsake that otherwise they wouldn't get. "I didn't spend anything to get into this park so might as well get something to remember the trip by." kind of thinking.
    2 points
  25. The next few days will be interesting
    2 points
  26. I'd like to clarify that I wasn't trying to push back on the new pass prices. It's been a while since I last said it, but I do still think that a lot of people might need to rethink their habit of purchasing a season pass if this higher price is too high for them. It's okay to opt for a few daily tickets instead of a season pass with all of the bells and whistles. There are a lot of passholders that at least make themselves sound like entitled brats — not you, RollerColt, you sound reasonable — and who say they won't renew because of the dining plans and Fast Lane changes. The upped prices might be good for the company in the long run. Maybe if Kings Island's season pass/membership rates fall for 2027 then Six Flags can look closer at The Vortex replacement. It's been clear to me that John Reilly and his team have been trying to play very carefully with the cards they were given. That $4.9 billion in debt is not going to disappear anytime soon. Three tiers of dining plans and Cedar Point's Fast Lane situation will force guests to be more careful about selecting their home park. Losing money on meal plans? Add options that don't price out the majority of buyers. Cedar Point has extremely high wait times, especially for Fast Lane? Exclude it from other parks All-Season Fast Lane programs and raise the price at Cedar Point (it's a luxury product anyhow). Some of the legacy Six Flags parks still have Gold Passes for under $90. Commenters call it greed without looking at the larger picture. The two decisions that I really disagree with are the lack of payment plans for the add-ons and the fact that 2027 add-ons work in 2026. You have to lose a few passholders to get back to a good balance as well I'm glad we can at least see the problem here. Almost any seat on the right side of the train, though toward the front is always better. Anything that lets me see the switch track at the beginning!
    2 points
  27. Pretty bold claim. You could be right or wrong. How do you know this? Not saying I agree or disagree with you, but if you’re going to say that maybe you should provide some proof given it’s just a definite statement. Aside from your own options.
    2 points
  28. 2 points
  29. Shares of Six Flags Entertainment tumbled nearly 19% so far today, making the company one of the biggest percentage losers on the New York Stock Exchange. The sharp sell-off came after Six Flags reported second-quarter earnings that fell short of Wall Street expectations, raising fresh concerns among investors about the pace of the company’s post-merger turnaround.
    2 points
  30. No doubt there is a concern about being able to pay off the debt, which is still high at $4.9B Maybe the market and investors aren't buying, but average Joe and family of 4 still seem to be! The question is do we see people that say they are not buying next year actually follow thru....
    2 points
  31. New App - Pump $$ into an integrated system with a new UI that better serves the largest needs of all guests that visit the park. If we’re going to have guests use their phones for needs inside the park I for sure want the app to work 100% of the time! Stop all AI image generated content - This isn’t a gas station convenience store. I’m hiring back artists. That is all. Entertainment - Festhaus to move away from stage shows and introduce more live soloists or duos there and around the park. The Gardens, Action Zone shade structure. Shade structures added to all outdoor venues. More Human Interaction Meet & Greets like characters from Phantom Theatre, Charlie Brown’s teacher who walks around the park talking in the same voice, Raptor Encounter but The Beast or Mystic Timbers tree. ride closures/replacements - Total overhaul of Flight of Fear to last 30 more years. Have a Vekoma Thrill Glider ready for when The Bat ultimately closes in the same area. close Congo Falls. Remove TRTR building. Replace WWC with MACK rocking boat using same trough. overhaul technical services - I don’t like burnt out lights so I know it will require a larger team! More shade - In general add more shade locations with seating. I could go on but this is what I could think of before going off on a tangent
    2 points
  32. I've been seeing a lot of people talk about how Six Flags is nickel-and-diming guests, but I'd like to see some examples of what you mean (if you don't mind). Beyond the high prices for food and the new (year-old) upcharge for Haunt mazes, I don't think I can recall anything else that isn't reasonably priced for the product it provides. The new dining plans might be an example, but $400 isn't a crazy price for the folks who already use that much worth anyway (which is who it is for).
    2 points
  33. A lot of good people were let go in the merger, including talented people who brought a lot to the company. Unfortunately tends to happen all the time in cases like these. Was it a mistake? In hindsight yes, the timing and execution wasn’t very good. Nothing can be done about that now the past is in the past. Now I look to the direction they are going. To be honest I see a very (VERY) small trajectory upwards but with caveats. Six Flags and Cedar Fair made these mistakes before, because of it parks suffered for a while and some parks were closed/sold as we’re seeing currently. These decisions did help the company get back onto their feet financially but took time to build back trust in their customers. Six Flags was still trying to earn that trust back when this merger happened.
    2 points
  34. This merger was the biggest mistake Cedar Fair could have made, I didn't feel good about it from the beginning, & with the negative vibe around Six Flags for years its easy for parkgoers to associate the Six Flags name with mediocrity in running the theme parks, jmo.
    2 points
  35. I'm not entirely sure that he's what Cedar Point needs right now either. Even solely on the social media side of the Midwest Region's PR, I haven't seen much of anything special from these five parks beyond the trendy nothing-burger videos that Six Flags corporate keep putting out. Most of those seem to have been filmed in Texas anyway. Something else that I can't get my head past is the fact that they are still using AI for things that there should already be media for. Cedar Point used a real photo in their Christmas in July sale (possibly even one taken by TC himself), but it was too hard to find a warm-looking photo from Winterfest for Kings Island? The lack of ticketed events doesn't phase me much, but I do think it's a shame that none are happening at KI this year. The whole Morning Rush/Coastermania fiasco probably didn't help. I won't say that Tony should move on from his current position, but Kings Island needs someone who will visibly do the PR job. Also (again), what's up with the special events no longer showing the Kings Island logo on them in the website? Like HawaiianCoasters325 said, I'd love to see Paul Bonifield come on as the new PR guy. I'm not entirely certain what his focus area was as I thought he was entirely on the Creative Development side of things instead of the PR/marketing. It would be great to have better teasers than singular pieces of media that get posted 10 times throughout the "campaign". (I'm looking at you, PT:ON teaser art.) The other special events around the park this year have been interesting to see so far. Food & Wine was a little better than last year, Grand Carnivale was fun for its (almost definite) last season, and there was a barely-advertised Reds Day that had to be rescheduled. Halloween Haunt is getting a new maze (which might add some good value and scares to the event). Tricks and Treats might be mostly the same this year, but I think it's a nice event as-is. We will have to see what happens with Winterfest now that Great Adventure and SFOG are getting their Holiday in the Park events back. I don't think we'll see anything public happen in the International Restaurant if they can keep getting private companies to host their dinners up there. I hope Six Flags sends a lot of the Carnivale stuff to a legacy SF park so they can have a "new" event. Heck, send all of it (minus the parade stuff) to Darien Lake so they can add a very easy event to their lineup. It might make the locals happy and sell a few more passes.
    2 points
  36. I would hold off on blaming corporate or budget cuts for things being closed this week. This week from my experience working at the park is considered "hell week" as a huge chunk of the staffing starts to go back to school this week so expect staffing to be very tight this week again not a budget problem. When it comes to Tower Drinks and the bee problem, I personally wouldn't mind them moving the drink stand into the building connected to french corner across from International Showplace and then turn the current Tower Drinks back into a snack stand or dare I say another bar. Wasn't it a bar under Paramount?
    1 point
  37. Unfortunately, I did forget to bring a newspaper to prove the pictures were taken today.
    1 point
  38. And in doing so they will create additional ones the creative folks will figure how to exploit lol
    1 point
  39. Bottom line....people keep buying regardless of what they do.... Some highlights: As compared with the second quarter of 2025 on a Same-Park Basis: • Net revenues totaled $864 million, an increase of $20 million, or 2.4%, from $844 million. • Season-to-date pass sales increasing 7% and active pass base growing 6%. • Adjusted EBITDA was $249 million, an increase of $16 million, or 7%, from $233 million. • Attendance totaled 13.1 million visits, an increase of 4%, from 12.7 million visits. • Per capita spending was $62.88, a decrease of 1%, from $63.38. • Operating days totaled 1,615, a decrease of 44 days, from 1,659. Only down number is per capita spending that they contributed to expanded season pass benefits and increased cross-park visitation. I guess they gave away a lot of ice cream last month LOL. https://s204.q4cdn.com/155295784/files/doc_financials/2026/q2/Six-Flags-2Q-2026-Earnings-Release-August-6-2026.pdf
    1 point
  40. I'm a firm believer in the idea that 2027 add-ons should not work until 2027 (and so on in the future). Being able to get into the park(s) during 2026 with your new 2027 pass is admittedly a good perk to have, but, for example, guests should not be able to use their limited-meal dining plans until the year they were bought for. The company would then be able to avoid the confusion as to whether or not a 2026 pass is still used alongside a 2027 pass. As for the politeness of employees and quality of service I think most of Kings Island's issues could be resolved with a different management style. Maybe it will be better in 2027, but we won't know until then. One comparison I can make is between the perceived cultures of food service team members at Kings Island, Dollywood, and Chik-Fil-A. A common sentiment made online by Kings Island guests is that the dining staff is neither friendly nor unfriendly: that they're just going through the motions of the job. Dollywood famously has friendly staff that will interact with you during your visit, without feeling forced. Chik-Fil-A, on the other hand, also has famously friendly staff, but the interaction is mostly famous for the term "my pleasure" and feels a little plastic every time I hear it/about it. All three businesses pay about the same starting wages for food service (KI $15.50; DW $16.50; CFA $12-$17), but one doesn't emphasize friendliness in their training while the other two have made it part of their brand connotation. All of this to say that I think Kings Island's management and training teams could easily focus more on employee friendliness as long as they create a good work environment. I can't remember if someone said it on here or another forum, but Herschend also does not take as good care of the parks not named Dollywood or Silver Dollar City. They've certainly been sprucing those parks up, though I'm not sure that we'll ever see Kennywood surpass Kentucky Kingdom in terms of quality. A fear of mine for Kings Island under an HFE ownership is that they would not put it on the same level as DW and SDC. If our beloved park leaves the Six Flags chain then I'd much prefer to see it start its own company with a few other parks. That might also help with the folks who think Six Flags/Cedar Fair should "de-merge" (as if that's a real option at this point). The company has not spent all of this time integrating itself just to say "oopsie" and split without a very good reason. The merger's "calm" year was originally predicted as being 2028 and I'd like to hope that everything will be a lot better by then.
    1 point
  41. As compared with the second quarter of 2025 on a Same-Park Basis: Net loss attributable to Six Flags Entertainment Corporation was $194 million, compared with a net loss of $87 million. This number is negative and includes one very important expense. Interest on debt. Which is eating up this company. Not to mention that a profit and loss statement does not include any principal payments on that debt which affects cash flow.
    1 point
  42. If they bought KI, they could very well sell KK. KK is a less than ideal situation. They don't own the land, there is a height limit and the scope of what the park will be able to draw compared to KI is limited.
    1 point
  43. Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that those who had a 2026 meal plan and renew for 2027 with a non-unlimited meal plan are already "on the clock" for their 2027 meal count. That is, any meal they eat in 2026 after renewing counts against their total number of meals for next year. If true, THAT is without a doubt the biggest issue. Renewing your pass causes you to forfeit meals you already paid for. Totally asinine and dishonest.
    1 point
  44. I agree with your points but theres one issue. Renewals for season passes are STILL $99. They didn't up the prices. IMO the renewal should have been $120-140 and the non-renewals $20 more to help the "giving away the gate" situation. Season long dining plan at 399 is a bit steep. I could see this price coming down to 299 by christmas once they see how they are selling. (I would pay 299, but find it hard to justify at 399). Evreything else is prices well (if they raised prestige cost why didn't they raise gold???) Prestige went from $200 to $279 however looking closer it now includes the drink plan ($40 plus renewal gets a bring a freind pass (don't need) and a $20 credit (MUST BE USED BY 9/7/2026!). so I look at it as a $19 increase. Looking further you can upgrade the drink plan to the drink plan plus (icees, coffee and hot chocolate) for an additional $15 so looks like I'll be in at the Prestige at 294 all in. This season I've never not found a VIP parking spot nor have I seen the VIP lounge full. Granted I tend not to go on days when it will be extremly crowded but by them pricing Prestige for an additional $100 last year they did convert me and I find it to be a great value.
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  45. I’m a teacher, so in terms of large scale corporate business practices I’m probably lesser compared to the rest of you… but I just wonder how bad of an idea the whole “buy a pass and get in anywhere across the country” was for the company as a whole? I mean, I’m sure it was great for those who had the passes, but wouldn’t this type of model cause parks to lose potential revenue via missed general tickets? I imagine with so many guests coming into without needing general entry that had to add up over time…
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  46. Baseless? They haven’t addressed the drink stands closed and no ice issues in three years, so it’s not baseless.
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  47. Circle back with me this time next year and let me know if I was right or I was wrong. I’d love to be wrong.
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  48. The ice issue will be even worse since they're effectively forcing prestige passholders to buy a drink plan.
    1 point
  49. I think we will see many saying they’re not going to renew not renew.
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