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By all means, please enlighten me.
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So you don't like it when people post something you perceive as rude or crass, but then you state your dissatisfaction by being *cough* rude or *cough* crass?
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You guys know he's just throwing around ideas and sharing his art, right? He's not actually going to change the entrance.
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I would disagree. After reading through Hart's proposal, the cost of refurbishing those rides really adds up and that's just with the estimated price which could very well come in at a much higher cost. A wise member on this site once said you can learn more from what isn't being said than what is. The fact that Holiday World walked away even with the local government's support speaks volumes. From what I've seen, the Fair Board isn't involved with this proposal and no one in the Commonwealth Government seemed to like Hart's proposal last time. If you're going to accuse them of "pulling the wool over everyone's eyes" in order to "get in the pocket" of someone, how about some details? Who exactly are they trying to help out by not saving Kentucky Kingdom? It doesn't add up. - Hart's initial proposal failed to secure investors and he walked away. - Holiday World came in and had the necessary government and financial support - began inspecting the place and abruptly walked away, now remaining quiet on the issue. - Now Hart is back with all kind of numbers that no official seems to be taking seriously. - The number of "other proposals" from other "potential operators" won't be released. My guess is there weren't any. When no other operator is interested and the only one who was walked away - I think that spells out the fate of KK right there.
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Geauga Lake 1982 promo video
Gordon Bombay replied to PhantomTheater's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
I went to Geauga Lake once in 2006. Didn't care much for the park. It was like a ghost town and not just from lack of patrons, but from closed sections of the park and shuttered buildings. Even towards the end it seemed to have lost a lot of the charm it had in the above video. OP, thanks for posting! -
The news station isn't saying their interpretation of the proposal makes it "in doubt," they're saying that the sources and people they've interviewed are in "doubt" about it, as noted in the article. Did you read the article? While the state suggested in its RFP that collateral can be used, the other government officials who were sourced (presumably and most likely not the same ones who did the RFP study) expressed "doubt" and concern over that method. Hence the article. The news station didn't spin this to make it "exciting," they reported it pretty accurately. There's an RFP that suggested ways of financing. Ed Hart made a new proposal. Government officials expressed concern and doubt.
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I wouldn't get too excited. This is the SAME group that was turned away before, who had questionable funding and couldn't attract private investors. They said the SAME thing last time about how they had plans for all these great new rides and plans to get the old ones working. As someone who's seen those rides first hand and has experience working on ride maintenance, I'd doubt much of anything there could still work without a major overhaul - severely affecting whether or not half those rides are worth salvaging. Even Holiday World said they brought in their "ride experts" and gave up on the idea of reopening the rides anytime soon. I sincerely doubt that this proposal will be taken anymore seriously than this groups last proposal - as nice as they are and no matter how good their intentions may seem. They're claiming they want to get a $15 Million coaster - I'd say that's just PR speak. How realistic is that? How many consultants, planners and manufacturers have they actually brought in to study such an idea? I'd wager - none. Remember, even "The Beach" claims they're going to spend 1 million on a new wave pool, four new slides and a new kids area. As stated by others before, I highly doubt Cedar Fair has any interest in Kentucky Kingdom. They're overcoming their financial difficulties with the PP purchase, seem to be on solid ground and are instituting a new culture around their new CEO. I doubt they want a once moderately successful park that's been abandoned for three years that has a few rides that have been un maintained. The city of Louisville doesn't really seem to care either way. And remember - after the Fair Board kicked Hart to the curb, they went with HW. HW fell through and the Fair Board touted all those "operators" who were lined up to make proposals. No one else did and now their back to Hart. That park has no future, no matter what PR and political games people want to play.
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The only machine that's going to be operated in that park will be a wrecking ball.
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Matt Hunter Ross is awesome. He runs an excellent website here: http://acincinnatihistory.blogspot.com/
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I'll get it fixed. Send me a PM.
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Observation wheels/Ferris wheels
Gordon Bombay replied to westcoaster's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
Out of all the thrill rides and coasters at Cedar Point, the ferris wheel there is by far my favorite ride. The last trip I ever took there, we got delayed and delayed and delayed. Our plan to get there at 10 am ended up being a 2 PM arrival. The park was jam packed on a weekday with kids and school busses. Lines were long, everyone in the car was annoyed with each other - so we all went our separate ways. All I really did that day was photograph the ferris wheel and ride it a few times. Most relaxed I've ever been. -
I joined this website when I was 15 years old, at the time I was obsessed with the park - visiting the park was one of my favorite past times. It's still a place I love dearly, but I don't visit as often. The first event I ever went on through this website was an off-season construction tour of the Italian Job: Stunt Track. Since 2005, life has changed for me quite a bit and with it so has KICentral.com. I've had the opportunity to meet many great people through this site - many of whom became close personal friends, helped me professionally or are friends I don't get to see as often anymore. I have a lot of great memories because of KICentral. Even my roommate is a friend I made through this website. Even though it took him forever to purchase a bed and he lived off the couch in our living room for a month and a half, he's still one of my best friends in this world. By the way, Boddah1994 - the power bill came today and I texted you the price. Over the years, people grow up and priorities change. Life takes different paths. I'm not involved with this site as much as I used to be in the past. I went from filling the online galleries here to not posting at all for some time while I shot photographs for other pursuits. Other folks got "real" jobs, got married, moved or just lost interest. Regardless, KIC events were always a good time and meeting people from the forums, even those I often disagreed with, was always nice. Even though times have changed, I'm glad to see KIC users still get together and share their interest in the park and have a good time. I ran into a bunch of the "next generation" of members while briefly visiting the park this past weekend. It was a pleasure running into you guys. You were all very friendly and I hope you all had a nice visit to the park. Thanks for keeping the KICentral tradition alive and well!
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^Not to mention, the Dinosaurs thing and its Trick or Treat event are huge hits with kids. Sorry it's not a B&M, but there's more than just fannypacks at KI.
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No offense, but how does experience building a monorail allow you to predict that the demolition will take until November or December? Why would you install footings for a ride you're demolishing?
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Without a doubt a majority of the rumors and speculation on these forums tend to be false or simply just that... rumors and speculation. No one is arguing that KIC is any more reliable. However, a vague post on Screamscape saying something big is coming in 2014 doesn't really clarify anything. Hence why he said "take it with a grain of salt." Who knows what, if anything, is coming and what is considered "big." Many users on this site would consider some new roller coaster "big," but as the KI entrance states: Dinosaurs Alive is the "biggest" thing the world has seen in a long time.
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I think he's referring to the fact that many things claimed on Screamscape turn out to not be true. Even Screamscape mentions that a lot of it is just rumors and not scripture.
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Inside Final Building Backlot Stunt Coaster
Gordon Bombay replied to xXDrummerKiDXx's topic in Kings Island
Ed Alonzo. -
I don't think that gas was that cheap around the park in 2009 when this tour was. Premium gas in that picture appears to be $2-something, so I'm guessing $1.87 or possibly $1.82. This was not long after the late 2008 gas price collapse where gas fell from over $4.00 to as low as $1.50 in places, so those figures sound reasonably accurate. Wow. I don't remember that at all. That's crazy.
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I don't think that gas was that cheap around the park in 2009 when this tour was.
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New Servatti Pastry and Deli shop at International Street Kings Island
Gordon Bombay replied to BB1's topic in Kings Island
In my opinion, the more Cincinnati fare they offer - the better. At one point, the food served at amusement parks was an attraction in itself. It seems that in the 90's many chains of the regional/seasonal variety switched from unique offerings to general fast food options. I don't feel that the LaRosa's and Skyline at Kings Island does those actual companies justice, but in recent years there seems to be more of a push to integrate the local culture at the park. I love the Moerlin Bier Garten. Servatti will hopefully be nice too. -
Thanks for sharing these, they're fantastic!
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When did they sell out the park 2 additional Sundays
Gordon Bombay replied to khaoskat's topic in Kings Island
Please read the previous posts before yours. The OP was not disputing that the park has sell outs or that the park shouldn't have sell outs. He took issue with the fact that those days had previously been advertised as open and that the information on different sources was conflicting.