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Bob Chapek has entered the chat @IndyGuy4KI and others - think you guys are 100% right, but common sense seems to be a lost art nowadays, especially in these situations. CEO’s can often be treated as the scapegoat for shareholder dissatisfaction. Maybe it’s justified in some cases, but generally it seems pretty dumb to pull the plug on a CEO this quickly. Then again, this whole merger is pretty dumb. Having a CEO that actually values guest experience, overall quality of the parks, etc. seems to go directly against the anti-consumer direction of the chain as a whole. I don’t think it’s fair to let individual parks bear that responsibility entirely, but I’m not sure what could happen.

Not an expert, but I’d also imagine the indoor factor could potentially extend its service life a bit too. It’s a cool coaster that I admittedly don’t ride all that often. That’s one of my 2027 park goals. Hoping it’s around for a long time. Seems to be a real people pleaser. Did Space Mountain yesterday in Disneyland and got off the ride thinking about what a total FoF overhaul could look like with new lighting, projection effects, and music. You could overhaul the story as well. Maybe not the greatest ROI, but if it ever requires some kind of refurb/retrack to keep it around, it could be a cool opportunity to make the ride “new” again. Or… just demo the coaster and put AF1 inside. It’ll fit, right?

Hoping the reception matches the ROI with this one. I’d love for this to result in a focus on more thematically dense, immersive type of attractions. Feel like KI deserve that kinda thing. As weird as things are now, I like to think this era is going to result in the park being a “crown jewel” of whatever the chain does or doesn’t look like. The early era of Cedar Fair was weird, but it worked out pretty well.

Apologies for the double post, but this seems to be making the rounds as yet another causality of this lovely merger. Grain of salt and all that…

Fair enough. I say “hand-me-down” because it was designed for another park. I just think the standards are slipping when the masses are excited about a used coaster, when KI (and other potential parks) really justify something suited to the park specifically. Shoe horning this in for the sake of “just wanting a new coaster” is silly for a lot of reasons. The ongoing rhetoric behind not having any recent/major coaster additions is a wild take, given Orion, the parks largest coaster, opened six-ish years. I guess you could argue that it didn’t meet expectations or make the splash it was expected to, but it’s still a large investment (and a really solid coaster) that came on the eve of a global pandemic and shortly before this ridiculous merger. Expectations should be realistic, with no need to just “settle and be happy with what we have.” In short, it’s a major coaster addition that shouldn’t be overlooked or discounted., regardless of opinions. There are other options for the park that would be a better choice than forcing AF1 into an a space where it doesn’t fit. Between the ongoing potential of AZ’s future, the infamous Vortex plot, and the Tomb Raider building, it’s probably best to exercise a bit of patience in favor of seeing those potential projects come to fruition since they’ll (god willing) be tailored to KI in particular. I have no doubt it’s a great coaster, and I’m glad the plan is to save it as opposed to the wrecking ball solution. But like @WoodVengeance said, it would almost have to be modified in some way for it to fit at KI, whether it be layout or capacity related. It would be a shame to see it altered in any way that could alter the ride experience. I just can’t help but think the hype and excitement around the “new coaster, any coaster now” rhetoric is ultimately going to do more harm than good when it comes to future additions. It’s a weird time and the future is uncertain. It’s odd to me that a company that’s neck deep in a shark infested wave pool, financially speaking, decided to hedge their bets on this project turning things around. Unless they bought it for a song and the relocation costs justify it. Guess I don’t know for sure, so who knows. None of this is directed specifically at you @KI Guy. I get what you’re saying. This just seems like a very bizarre direction to take. But like I said before, I’m happy it’s being saved. Too many great parks, coasters, and rides have been lost. So that’s something to celebrate, at least.

Well deserved.

The fact that these corporate morons thought this merger was a good idea, coupled with the fact they thought the Six Flags name had any brand equity/positive reputation, is proof (in my opinion) that this was never going to work. And I’ll say it…. The hype around AF1 is stupid. It’s a hand-me-down coaster from a failed park that may not even come to fruition. And if it does, it’ll most likely be altered in some capacity to be forced into a park it’s ill fit for. I remember a time when Six Flags was mocked for ride relocations, parking lot coasters, and terrible customer service. Well… here we are. And unfortunately there are quite a few stellar parks, KI specifically, who are going to suffer because of idiotic, greed fueled decision making processes of a bunch of out of touch boomers. Not to mention the talented folks who got fired a few years back because of this merger.

The entire point of… well, all of this fandom, is escapism. At least in my opinion. Sorry things are tough for you right now. Mean that. You don’t deserve to feel like that way. And I’m also sorry some on this site (and beyond) feel the need to use their faux-insider knowledge as a way to gate keep actual discussion about the park. Being realistic and knowledgeable is one thing, even if it comes across as harsh. But when you’re shooting fish in a barrel (like all of us here) and still missing, it’s a bad reflection on the fandom when that type of attitude is put out on display. Appreciate you continuing to share your opinions on the matter. That’s what makes this fun.

Uh huh……………… ………………………..

Surprised I haven’t seen this come up yet, but it looks like AF1 has been sold and will be relocated. Just came across this TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTULQ6E5U/

I used the FAQ feature in the app to ask if PT:ON will be open during Halloween Haunt and it encouraged me to reach out to Enchanted Parks. 🤙🏻 Great job, chain! Appreciate the Mid-Answer.

Sounds like Magic Mountain is ready for a ground up, RMC Son of Beast.

Naming your park “Mid” is certainly a choice.

One of those people who always, to me anyway, felt too good for this world. Beyond music and theme parks, she was an example of how people should be, especially in a time where things aren’t always the best. Much love to her family.