BoddaH1994

Just save up some cash and make it a big night out. If you walk into any place with the notion of getting your money's worth you'll always be disappointed. Just try to enjoy the spectacle and the shows and I guarentee you'll have a good time.

The unofficial word that I just got from the park was that they still plan to retheme Scooby.

They were working up there for a VERY long time... Much longer than you'd think just to remove the curtain and replace it with the backdrop. Hopefully this will be an implication of a revamp for next year... Also, I think they said at the press announcement that Santa's Toy Factory was a ravamp of the previous show.

The magic of Wintefest is something that you just have to find in yourself. No real show or spectacle can just create it for you. Did they use the main stage in the Festhaus at all? I have seen the center stage used a lot, but not the old big one. ..and yes, Illuminations is amazing!

^ That's what I love about these forums... it's 2:30am on a Sunday night and there are still 9 people reading them.

You might be a PKI addict if... ...you've been wrapped up in employee drama and you don't work there. ...you've checked PKIC's forums from the web on your cell phone while at the park. ...you've mistakenly told your parents that you want something for Winterfest instead of asking for something for Christmas. Guilty on all 3.

They've been in the process of a total retrack for years now.

I'm not sure if they scrated the Christmas Caper idea or not, and even if they did, it would still be doubtful that they'd do it for that reason. If it did get scratched, it was probably due to budget or time constraints.

I think you can still get any day tickets for $19.99 if you buy them in advance. To my knowledge, you can buy them at Krogers on the way there and still get the same price. I admit that $25 is a little high, but this is one of those deals where if you play your cards right, you can get a good deal... especially for passholders.

Very few people who were around for the first WF are around for this one, plus all of the old decorations were thrown away or donated, so I agree with Familyman, as far as I'm concerned, this is as close to at 1st year event as you can get. They have been preparing for Winterfest for a very long time. Setup began back during Fearfest. It wouldn't be reasonable for you to assume that they rushed anything. They had a certain timeframe and had to stick with it. I have only gone during media day, and if it's "not finished" as some people claim, I still wouldn't have been mad paying $20 for admission. Winterfest is bigger than it ever was in the 80s and early 90s. I think they're already doing exactly what you're suggesting. Give it a shot! I really enjoyed myself and I intend to go back several times. I'm already looking forward to it. I think the theory is a little far fetched but your 2nd point is very true. If anyone came on here with a negative opinion about anything to do with PKI, they'd get destroyed on the forums. Of course, there is always that handful that you can't please. Being a supporter of the park, it would be irresponsible of me or the rest of the PKIC staff to have headline news that is not in the best interest of PKI. In fact, we don't support everything that goes on at PKI, but rather than badmouth it, we just don't make any kind of fuss or hype about it. I'm actually glad that you have a different opinion than everybody else. It makes it interesting. Unfortunately things get personal on here very quickly. So, aside from pricing, what would you do to improve the event? We really have no idea what attendance they forecasted for the first weekend. Personally I think the marketing of the event was a little jacked up. WAY too many people were asking the employees what Winterfest was when they saw the signs. Plus TV and paper ads should have started a month ago. I don't think the quality of the event affected Let me remind everyone that Winterfest isn't about rides, it's about LIVE SHOWS, so if you don't enjoy live shows and spectacle, it may not be the event for you. Personally, I would invite anyone to at least check it out. Most of you on here are season pass holders, so the price is about the same as a night out anywhere else. A lot of people have put countless hours into this event, so please don't judge it before you get to experience it.

Just wanted to see how you guys enjoyed Winterfest. Please wait to attend the event before judging it.

The park map lists it as SDATHC. I wonder if plans for caper were scratched.

I went to Holiday Fest two years ago and I can tell you that it's a joke in comparison to Winterfest. They're not even in the same league. I'd gladly spend the extra $7 or $10 to go to a real holiday event. Also may I point out that the Beach's Holiday Fest sure seems to have a lot of upcharges. With WF, everything is included except food and skating.

We'll worry about the lodge when there's something to report on it. A concrete foundation isn't really what we here at PKIC consider ground breaking news.

Excellent work, my friends! At least you had the time to pay a little more attention to detail than we did Tuesday.

Add cell phone backround to that.

To see Bill's new Winterfest video, click here.

for some reason, I think that would be a great Idea, The train would never go vertical... it could be done... I'd call it Beast's baby's momma.

Unfortunately, nothing is truely culturally universal so there will always be those who feel like outsiders. Welcome home!

I'm the other way around. I'm bummed out until around Christmas and then start to get better during the later winter months. I guess it has to do with the fact that the days start getting longer or something... plus, that's when we really start to feel and appreciate the coming of opening day.

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Putz... As in Jeff, the guy that runs pointbuzz, as well as coasterbuzz? If so, I really don't like the guy. Seems like an on the forums at Pointbuzz. Seems okay on Coasterbuzz, but for some reason on pointbuzz, he comes across as an He's not exactly the most social guy in person eather, but hey, Beastbuzz is a good time.

Use NiMh batteries, they'll last you several hundred shots.

I plan to go, I'll be a 3rd timer... this will, seriously be some of the most fun you'll ever have in your life. Putz and PKI's marketing put on quite a show.

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