Browntggrr

Yes it will take some big bucks to have taken out, yet, it is the better of two evils. PKI has already spent some big bucks trying to fix the problems, if they spend more, and still have no results, it will still have to be taken out, and they are still at square one. The only option I can see is if, like you suggested, have it not operate for a year, and hopefully it will be a permanent fix. But there is that chance that all of the resources have dried up and there is nothing left that can be done. There are people that love the ride, but, it is the majority that does not like it at all. Check out Coasterbuzz and use the search feature. A majority of the people all say that they rode it once, and they will never ride it again. SoB is a two train operation in one of the most popular areas of the park, and still The Beast has a longer wait. You would think given the uniqueness of SoB, and it only being 4 years old, that it would be one of, and perhaps the most popular ride in the park, but it is just not that way. Also, it cost about $20 million, the most expensive ride in the park, but it is not the most popular? There is defiantly something wrong there.

It is taking too much $$ to keep the ride operating at the poor level it is at. A majority of the ride has been re-tracked and it has not made that big of a difference, it is still too rough. Wood coasters will always be rough, but they are still fun, SoB is only fun when it is going through the loop- the smoothest part of the ride. There have been many comparisons of SoB to The Beast, and while The Beast is not for the tame of heart, it is no where near as rough as SoB, and The Beast is 20 years older. Also, The Beast is annually near the top of the list for best coasters, SoB will never be even close to that type of reputation. PKI has done there best to make SoB a more enjoyable experience (re-tracking, train modifications), but there has to be a point where SoB is too painful for a majority of the guests and costs too much $$ to try making it a better ride. PKI is considered a family park, there are many rides that are not for all members at PKI, and SoB is the last in that list. BGW had many of the same issues with Drachen Fire (steel coaster that was also too rough), and they ended up taking it out. I would rather see PKI put their money into a new ride, just like what KI did with The Bat.

No offense Fusiondude, but if you have to have a certain seat on a train, (like the middle seat of a car), just to get a smooth ride, the coaster has some major issues. You usually hear people talk about where to sit to get the most air, or the fastest seat, typically the smoothest is not a topic of discussion, unless it is SoB. I feel that this ride is just like The Bat, a good ride with way too many problems, and these problems are costing the park big $$. Not necessarily downtime, but it has been retracked numerous times, and it has not helped. The Bat was a great ride, but the downtime and cost killed it. Vortex was put in it's place and has done a tremendous job, it may be about time that PKI does the same thing with SoB.

If you are so "laid back to care", why even comment at all? Leave it alone.

OK, this is for everyone. A person's opinions/ feelings regarding race/religion/or sexual preference should be respected.

I first rode The Beast in '79 when I was 6. Even though my first coaster was the Sooper Dooper Looper @ Hershey, when I was 3 1/2, The Beast has always been on the top of my list just because I remember standing in line for 4 hours to ride it (the line stretched to the Eiffel Tower), and my parents cheated to get me on (see my sig), and I can remember that at the time it was the most intense feeling that I ever had.

OK, for all to know- the Dippin' Dots guy is a fictional person that spreads insane rumors about ANY park. It is like having a troll post on these boards. Purely meant to be humorous.

Is this necessary? The thread was not started to create harassment to someone that has a different view. I may not agree with their choice of a partner, but it ends there.

OK, I am not gay! I just ran across this in coasterbuzz and thought some may want to know. Gay Day

*smacks forehead*

I live in Erie, PA. My wife and I have had season passes to PKI and CP for 5 years now. It is very convenient that my uncle lives about 20 minutes from PKI so we make the trip at least 3 times a year. I also checked MapBlast, DollyWood is 10 hours from Erie, not 14 like I thought.

When he does argue, just tell him to check out ThunderHead at Dollywood. Even though I have not been on it, the pics/ videos/ and comments have ALL been praising this new coaster. I may just take the 14 hour trip to check it out!

The Dippin' Dots guy strikes again!

Yes, people do win those all the time. They are called instant tickets, not lotto tickets. :stupid:

There is probably a better chance of you hitting the lotto than having the restraints fail. BTW- this is a really morbid poll!

PT first opened in 1992, and it's last year of operating was in 2002. PT was an original, where as various forms of Scooby are at other parks, and the concept of an interactive ride (like Scooby) has been around since 2000. ...and there is no Helga!

Given the right weather conditions, ANY coaster is capable of having a rollback. And it is not that big of an issue. The SoB rollback is making a mountain out of a molehill, and why it has been such an issue on other sites is really mind-boggling. It just goes to show you that not all kids can play in the same sandbox.

It is too bad some "others" assume "conspiracy theory" is always running rampant. I saw the other site just to see what others had said, and it is too bad that when a contribution is made, it is pis :censored: on, just because it was not seen with their own eyes. Nice pics though! :offtopic: Kudos to the staff of PKI Central for not running their site with bias for people's opinions and ramming their own down our throat. You guys are doing a great job!

Sorry, it is not the elevators. The tower is sinking. *cough*, *cough* (Easter cold) The Dippin' Dots guy told me.

OK, I got it. Kudos and plaudits to all that made v.2 look great!

I feel like an idiot, but, is there a actual "forums" link? :stupid:

Sorry, dropzone265 is right. PKD's Drop Zone PKI's Dropzone

Holy hair Batman! :cowboy: Great pics! I'm happy to see mom and baby are healthy and happy!

Did the retracking help with the roughness?

Was SoB down?