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Will anyone of us still be alive when this happens?

High School Cheerleading or College?

The main reason I go is for the coasters. While there are many reasons to go, that is the main one. As far as the employees, I have unfortunatly run into some that have no customer service skills whatsoever (I'm sure none are on this board ).

Not only is SoB the roughest coaster at PKI, it is the roughest coaster I have ever been on. I am happy to hear that PKI must be aware of this and is trying to fix the problem this off season. In all reality, the roughness of SoB is taking away how unique this coaster really is. Let's hope the engineers can find a way to improve it so SoB will be considered one of the great wooden coasters.

Well than my wife and I are guilty... It must be something about the hills on rollercoasters going up and down that get people "happy".

After reading these posts, I seem to remember a couple that got busted for doing a Bill/Monica in one of those picture booths. Just the thought made me laugh that the couple were caught because the actions inside could be seen from the outside video screen. Now the "sex" topic has reached the forum boards, and I can't stop laughing. Does the parking lot count?

Let's hope that PKI's BB has a better opening day than Crocodile Dundee 3 (Los Angeles). This is probably one of the worst movies of all time, and another reason that some movies should not have sequals.

I found it intresting that it was mentioned about the 3 SoB trains being disassembled with the 3 Beast trains (end of the article, in the box). Is the 3rd train ever used, or even exist for that matter, or is this a misinformed stat?

fyrfyter- Why do you try to flame somebody because they give a honest opinion? You try to give your opinion, but it is hollow because you have never been on the ride, so how can you even comment honestly about it? Not only do you give false opinons, you twist facts. Yes CP has built 3 coasters since 2000, yet they also have the most rides of ANY amusement park (67). It is clear that they build more than just coasters. If CP and PKI are not in competition, as you stated, why do you compare costers that each park has? FYI since you try to say CP has no coasters to compete with PKI, here are some facts: 2003 Golden Ticket Awards: PKI: Beast #8 SoB # 35 -tied with Blue Streak at CP CP: Blue Streak #35 Mean Streak #49 These are the steel coaster awards: CP: Millenium Force #2 Magnum #4 Raptor #10 TTD #11 Wicked Twister # 50 2003 Golden Tickets As you can read in the press release, these numbers are calculated from numerous amusement park patrons, not the average person who goes to a park once a year. You obviously have a deep hatred for Cedar Point, but stop trying to jam your false opinions down our throats, it is getting old. Aaron or another Moderator: Perhaps since many topics end up being PKI vs. CP, there could be an actual catagory for it. Thanks! Jerry M. Bruno

Now how about that Screaming Squirrel family coaster?

I agree, when TTD was first announced, people were very critical of the ride. After they rode it, it was voted 11th best. Those who still talk down to it are those who unfortunatly went to CP to find TTD not operating or those who have false opinions because they never rode it. And the biggest complaint that anyone made at any other site is the fact that it had extensive downtime May- July, like you said, do a search, and read it. (I went to coasterbuzz.com) But those who know PKI know all about downtime after SoB it's first year. And it is not only this thread at PKIUnlimited that I was referring to, many of them are PKI vs. CP wars. And it shouldn't be like that. Fans of PKI should be happy CP is around, it keeps PKI on their toes to make a better park for all of us. Competition is healthy for the consumer. PKI may try to downplay that what CP does, does not effect decisions that they make, but anyone that has a business has to always look over their shoulder and see what ANY competition is doing. BoObKiNos- Your thread was great, even though you hate CP, you were honest in your opinions. Kudos to you! It is something like how I feel- I hate the Steelers (Browns fan), but have respect for Bill Cowher. Heck even Marvin Lewis now! LOL

Does anyone have winter pics of PKI now?

It is funny to read all the posts bashing TTD. 120 mph, 90 degree assension and dessension, 420 ft. tall, and the 270 degree twist on the way down. Calling it a "one trick pony", is a huge understatement. It is, by far, the most intense ride I have ever been on. It is very easy to make a statement/ opinion that "I don't see a true thrill in that", well how can you give an opinion about something that you have never been on? It would be nice to see everyone have an open mind about what a competing park, like CP, does. It almost sounds like if many on this board are making excuses for PKI not having a ride like TTD, and are bashing TTD with false opinions. This is the only site that bashes CP and TTD in this way. Be happy that the state of Ohio has parks like PKI and CP. All the rollercoaster organizations and voter polls have given extremely high and glowing reviews for TTD, and the ONLY complaint was about the huge amount of downtime it had before July 4th, and after the 4th the problems were corrected. I give CP and Cedar Fair an enormous amount of credit for actually having the nerve to make a ride like TTD. It is decisions like this that keep the Golden Ticket for best park going to CP for 4 consecutive years now. No other park can say that. And you can also see that not only was 11th best for the Golden Tickets, it has also won another award. IAAPA 2003 Have an open mind, just because PKI does not have it, does not mean it is a low quality ride.

I think that a story about rollercoasters would be great. You could actually do a story not just about PKI, but about the many different and record breaking coasters in the state of Ohio. Contact any of the customer service offices of the parks and explain what you are writing about and I'm sure the press kit they give you will be huge- information and pics. Good Luck!

I never said that it is really messy, or even trashed for that matter. But the way the park was back in the early '80's is something that could never be forgotten, because it was that clean. But I will take your advice and inform the park. Thank-you!

Really? It takes money? Wow, I really didn't know that! :stupid: Perhaps you should read the thread before trying to be a smarta$$ :jerry: The point is that PKI seems to be getting cheap and taking the easy way out. The park is nowhere close to being as clean as it once was. If other parks can have things like ice shows, clean parks, and themeing that operates, there is no reason PKI cannot and on top of that is owned by a successful international company. You even said it yourself in the "PKI's best move" thread, that it sounds like PKI has been getting cheap.

Does anybody even know if Gillette makes those types of razors anymore?

CP has an ice show, and is not owned by a company like Viacom. That is my biggest gripe about PKI. If they have all this money, where is it spent? It's not on the rides, not on the theming, not on the employees (or rides would NEVER be shut down due to lack of operators) and not on shows. Where does it all go?

I tried to look up the official cost at a number of rollercoaster sites and they all have a ? next to the total cost. A Cincinnati Enquirer article states that the cost was $15 million to start. I am still trying to find the article that states $25 million- which was the cost after PKI did the renovations the first off-season. SoB article 1999 article Another article stating another amount. I am now thinking that the exact total may not have been released do to the lawsuit. :offtopic:

PKI invested $25 million on SoB, and it still has major problems. TTD was ranked 11th best coaster in the Golden Ticket balloting, even with all the problems before July 4th. How bad can it be? It is one of the best rides I have ever been on, and I waited 4 1/2 hours for it back in May. The best SoB can do is recieve 14% of the votes, and that is just for wooden coaster catagories. And CP does not have a space issue. They actually have an enormus area to put new attractions. There is no park around that can say they are situated on a peninsula and is 133 years old. You think after the first 100 years, you would give them the benefit of the doubt that they know exactly what they are doing.

How is a midway themed?

Does that mean when you park your car at PKI at Huckleberry Hound row 5, that area is Huckleberry Hound themed?

I guess you have never been to Kennywood...

Defining certain parts of a park with the biggest attraction in that part is not theming, it helps those who do not know the park very well to get around. As far as themed areas at CP, there is only one- Frontier Trail, and that is pretty self explanitory. Challenge Park is outside of the main park, and is a pay-per-ride area, like Soak City. Just because it has a name, does not mean that it is themed. I also hate to see morons vandalize anything in a park. I honestly think if PKI, or any park for that matter, would take a proactive approach to stop things like vandalizing, smoking in line. etc. we would all benefit. The best was to do this is make it known to everyone that the rules will be enforced and if someone is seen doing somthing that is against the rules, they will be escorted out of the park- zero tolerance. But to have this work, park guests would have to get involved to let security which opens a new can of worms. No matter what is done, it needs to be changed from the way it is now, status quo gets us nowhere.

CP does not claim to be a theme park. There is a constant statement on this board stating that Viacom has more money than Cedar Fair. Well it would be nice to see PKI do some of the little things, with all that money, to make the experiance more memorable for first time guests. Yet in PKI's defense; we are die hard PKI fans, and we go to the park numerous times during the summer. It is easier for us to see the faults that the park has because the novelty has worn off. We are the biggest supporters of PKI, but also it's harshest critics. CP has had many of the same problems with Disaster Transport (once themed VERY well), and it has gone to crap. but again CP does not claim to be a theme park.