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I'm not convinced those grey pieces are fully painted. Even a grey would have a bit of a shine to it like you see on the brown pieces. Track thickness also isn't a good indicator. Most B&M's change thickness throughout their course (ex. DB's track thickness on the bottom of the first drop is huge compared to the track on the return hills). EDIT: Also important is the label. Assuming B&M hasn't changed up their labels, under Part No, the first 2 letters indicate type. The MC you see with the HP pieces stand for Mega Coaster, which is what B&M labels all their hypers and gigas (since B&M giga's are essentially scaled up hyper coasters). It any track shows up without MC, it isn't for HP or KI (assuming KI is getting a giga). For other labels, I know IC is for inverted, I think DM or DC is dive coaster (though that'd be more obvious in most cases since most dive coasters have wider track), I think either LC or SC is looping coaster/sitting coaster (which is likely floorless), FC is flying, and though I've never seen a label for a wing coaster, I imagine it'd be WC.

I'd probably settle on yellow with sky blue supports then, or some blue brighter than Invertigo.

^I'd go darker on the supports to prevent that kind of fading. Diamondback's red has stood up pretty well.

^I liked Medusa's green (prior to being Bizzaro'd) that was so bright it was into the yellow spectrum.

I feel between Vortex, Banshee and Invertigo that blue is already well covered. I'm starting to shift towards yellow track and either burgundy or magenta supports (see Raging Bull). I really want a good yellow in there somewhere. Since its in X-base, make it sci-fi sun themed.

Great Bear's got a really good roar, not only just it being loud, but because its in a valley, it echos a bit as well. All the NJFTP B&M's got solid roars as well. The quietest B&M's have to be at Dorney. Talon and Hydra are almost too quiet.

I also notice when I'm riding Mystic Timbers, I barely register Diamondback is there.

How loud are Leviathan and Fury 325?

^Dorney pulled it off pretty well slapping Steel Force next to Thunderhawk. I think aesthetically it'll be alright. That area of Dorney is probably my favorite section in the park. I'm not that bothered by it being close to Beast either. Its going to be a quieter B&M like Banshee and Diamondback and riding on Beast is pretty racketey in terms of noise on its own.

What's non-authentic about building a giga?

This is turning into possibly the most comprehensive decoding thread ever with all the cost analysis, topography maps, and who knows what else. CSI: KIC

On the whole spending debate- this is the same chain that built both Intimidator coasters in the same off-season, so it isn't that unlikely another CF park could still get something on the large side along with KI.

The only set I've ridden is the train at Hershey's Sidewinder, and even for a smaller coaster, it made a noticeable improvement. Never thought a Vekoma Boomerang could actually be enjoyable.

I just found the answer to whether or not the new comfortable Vekoma trains have been put on an Arrow. Meet Dreamworld's Hot Wheels SideWinder. https://rcdb.com/1415.htm http://www.parkchatlive.com.au/2015/12/dreamworld-opens-hot-wheels-roller-coaster-motorsports-precinct/hot-wheels-dreamworld/

One of the things about decoding is that everyone is going to show some sort of bias to dissecting things. Its not hard to rationalize a lot of things for this project. Like, I can still rationalize a wing coaster as a possibility as much as a giga (like, say, most of the clearing towards Flight of Fear is a X-Base expansion while a wing coaster only takes up more of the land towards Beast). Part of why I like decoding is to see how everyone can rationalize their guesses.

Hershey isn't above letting new track sit all season before they put it up, at least that's what they did with Skyrush. Plus they kinda already announced it so it isn't much a secret.

No way it's a wing coaster at this point IMO. The wing coaster in question would have to be seriously scaled up because they lose tons of momentum with all the drag they create. Also, most wing coasters are meant to be visual centerpieces. This clearing just juts out into the Ohio woods. All gigas that have been built are along the outer edges of their respective parks.

The fact that the Firehawk trains are still at KI probably means the other 2 Flying Dutchman owners foresee theirs not lasting too much longer.

It'd be sweet if they could make the ride interact with the Flight of Fear building in some way.

I'd like to add that to the wish list on a giga for me- - no red anywhere in the color scheme - no numbers in the name - no Beast lineage

I can tell by the early its of this thread that this is going to be a fun project to see unfold. Its pretty beautiful seeing a coaster take shape from groundbreaking to opening.

After seeing the pictures of the newest clearing, I think they're still going to add to it, not only because it's a bit too thin for a turn around element, but they also need to fit Clifford there to do the actual vertical construction. For those who weren't here for Banshee's construction, we referred to the cranes, often red, as Clifford.

I will admit, when I post about this type of stuff, its kind of me thinking out loud. Even if something is remotely possible, I just keep that in my head which is why I mentioned floorless. I'd put wing over floorless for sure, but I'm definitely in the giga mindset at this point.

I'm not sold on wing or floorless for a few reasons. B&M hasn't built any of their looping models (sans dive coasters) with hyper stats, most not close. Alpengeist gets close, but that's the only one that comes close (and most of its size is due to the terrain where its built). This would have to be a seriously scaled up floorless or wing coaster (look at how wide the clearing is, that's a lot of space to use). Though, I would hypothesize that if it is to be a wing or floorless, perhaps the clearing isn't just for the coaster, but also for a bit of an upgrade to X-Base paths and such (and perhaps, the restroom we all want ). Like, most of the clearing closer to Beast would house the coaster and more of the bit towards Flight of Fear being the new midways and such, thus, the new coaster would anchor the new area.

Request for the Photoshop gurus here- could you plug in GateKeeper along the areas on the map we know where the clearing is?