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i say lets not attack the woman. To be truthful no one knows the full story except her, her doctors, and her lawyers. Do not pass judgement unless ye wants to be judged, or something like that. Maybe this lady was in too much pain to go on, maybe she faked. Either way she was riding a ride that broke while she was on it and caused her, and about 25 others, some semi-serious injuries. She didnt cause them on her self, meaning she didnt do anything wrong while riding the ride, so lets be gentle on her. She may never be able to enjoy a roller coaster again. And I believe we can all relate to how horrible it would be to never enjoy a certain pleasure again.....

juror13, awesome job thanks for doing your civic duty. I second Terpy (the interpreter) by saying many thanks for a job well done, meaning your civic job.

Im sorry terp... but I am not sure which part of my question you are answering?

so in the winter is that where the trains normally start? I mean since the transfer track is so high off the ground? is that the first stagiing area? I guess newbies like myself, who dont pay to close attention during closing times of the season, would like to know what is the standard operating procedure, if it exists, on how the rides are winterized.... I have absolutely no idea how Cedar Fair does things in that regard...I know that under previous ownership getting the trains sheltered was of paramount importance. added my emphasis.... nice.... but when you say sheltered do you mean just under shelter just some sort of covering or do they go to a mechanics building our of the elements of cold etc?

so in the winter is that where the trains normally start? I mean since the transfer track is so high off the ground? is that the first stagiing area? I guess newbies like myself, who dont pay to close attention during closing times of the season, would like to know what is the standard operating procedure, if it exists, on how the rides are winterized....

you are nothing more than a gentleman and a scholar...

Okay obviously I added the emphasis... but shouldn't you ... i don't know, maybe sort of kind of mention that in the SOB thread?????!?!?!?!?! Kidding aside are you serious? and if so please elaborate in the SOB thread so that anyone following SOB reads it and stuff.....

I had a caricature done with myself and my fiance in Busch Gardens... it was just a fun goofy souvenir to keep from the park... the little things about amusement parks are great.

I do not own this video... but I found a POV of it online... here ya go http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5u7jV0U8g0

I understand what you are saying, but there is a small problem with only one part. Lets say, just for a case of argument, the lady does have some sort of degrading hip injury. This injury was caused by the ride, and in an extension the park. How is it fair for the lady to only get initial costs of the hospital visits and not further medical damage caused by the ride/park. I understand if she is faking, and as they say it will all come out in the wash, she deserves nothing, but if she is in as much pain as she says she is then the park should be held responsible to the fullest extent possible. Now some doctors can say "if you have to have your hip replaced now, the average life span of a joint is X amount of years. They can then take the expected life expectancy of this woman and subtract the life expectancy of the hip joint and get an average guess on how many hip replacements she may need. Think brakes on a car. Life expectancy is on average 30-45 thousand miles. But if you brake hard then they wear out much quicker, brake softer last much longer..... what were the 26 other ppls injuries?? Also didnt that lady have a prior workers comp case for a work related injury? i heard a few co workers talking about the case at work and over heard them talking about it. Hey I am not defending her... just giving an opposing view point, trying to keep things equal... Now if she has a current workers comp case going, well thats not good for her. How can you prove one injury was from what cause, work or ride. About the other injuries.... weird things happen. You could be in a car crash driver and have no injuries while your passenger in the front seat has three broken ribs, but the 2 passengers in the back have head injuries.... so who knows....

I understand what you are saying, but there is a small problem with only one part. Lets say, just for a case of argument, the lady does have some sort of degrading hip injury. This injury was caused by the ride, and in an extension the park. How is it fair for the lady to only get initial costs of the hospital visits and not further medical damage caused by the ride/park. I understand if she is faking, and as they say it will all come out in the wash, she deserves nothing, but if she is in as much pain as she says she is then the park should be held responsible to the fullest extent possible. Now some doctors can say "if you have to have your hip replaced now, the average life span of a joint is X amount of years. They can then take the expected life expectancy of this woman and subtract the life expectancy of the hip joint and get an average guess on how many hip replacements she may need. Think brakes on a car. Life expectancy is on average 30-45 thousand miles. But if you brake hard then they wear out much quicker, brake softer last much longer.....

good thing she wasnt jogging, running, doing the stanky leg, jumping jacks, or arobics that day.....if that was on video she would have been torn apart in the court room. well some orthopedic physicians suggest walking to keep joints movable, and some places have under water jogging/swimming as post operation rehab..... Now I have no idea what the stanky leg is.....

very true video can not determine the future, and if a very important join such as the hip joint is wearing down over time that girl is in for a load of problems.

So the whole KI defense of the case is from one video? Saying she was carrying a bag of groceries, no idea what was in there-could have been cereal and bread, and she lifted her leg up while buckling in her son? Some people can still try to live a normal life 2 years after an injury. The fact remains she may be in pain and she has learned to "deal with the pain." So if I am wrong the lady's lawyer have an "orthopedic surgeon who no longer performs surgery but is an expert on the discipline" while KI has "a former emergency room doctor who works with various agencies on determining when injured people are able to return to work." This does not seem to be a very good person to have in your corner. Thats similar to have a transmission problem on your care and having the tire guy saying you should be fine........

well sadly its always an accident or a freak accident that can doom a ride... but it also leads to better ride designs in the future..... and hip injuries can develop..... sometimes a bone does not break but can bruise... it may take a few days for symptoms to appear, then awkward limping can result to permanent damage.... and then hip replacement.... I am not a doctor but just have been hurt a few times and your body over compensates... so its possible.....

They do use the line for HH. It is now the line for Flight Deck. Instead of closing Flight Deck for HH like they did last year, the line goes through SOB's line, through one of the switchbacks and then one of the silver hand rails are gone, you continue down towards the exit of Flight Deck but right before you start to go over the bridge you take a left (not through the cut through from the exit to the line) and then you are in the line right before you head up the stairs towards the candy machine. Make sense? Probably not but I tried. I think I understand how they are using the line... but does that mean when you are exiting you are cutting through the line?

so amazingly you can not just google Roller Coaster Insurance.... (I dont think Flo from Progressive has a CF aisle...) but if you think about how the calculate auto insurance, its based on driving record, usage, model type etc...... so thats something to think about.... and side note KIC is such a refreshing blog to visit... no real shouting, and no random yahoos spouting off politics or hate speech.... yay for KIC....

Well, I am not a lawyer and I do not play one on tv, but I would think the trials are not hugely important to the future of the ride, unless a CF lawyer feels that this is just the beginning of a future tidal wave of claims..... but yeah I guess they can be added to my mental list......

besides the woman's trial happening... and the random lights on, reported a page ago, has anything significant happened around this ride in the last few weeks? Recapping what I know, and anyone feel free to add to this list as its here to help all who come after us.... Ride shut down. Ride Cleared by state, but remained closed Ride closed for remainder of year, given dreaded SBNO Ride Que is bolted and zip tied closed Signs removed from Que Line Ride was test some time in September Is the above all correct? any additions need to be added? Are they using the SOB Que line for anything to do with HH?

yeah attack the peacemaker.... i see how it is... Im like the Swiss... just minding my own business and ya'll just march on through here.... ...

Hey gang.... Just want to take a moment and make sure every one takes a deep breath.... Old members please dont get angry at the newbies, and the new members please dont attack the older members because if you take the time you will see that some of the older members of the boards know more than you will know..... (old being old timers on here, not old in years).... with that being said..... I dont think the park will make an announcement till after the new year.....

were you inspired by the recent explosion of bengal haikus?

why such anger at each other over something the park did. As paying customers, everyone is entitled to their opinions about how the park is operating. If one person feels that the park is not utilizing something they promote, then that person has the right to stand out and say "Hey how come you told us this, but are instead doing that." SnakePit, check the tude at the door and be chill..... we all should be more chill while discussing the park.....

...but it was Twitter Facebook Twitter (Haunt Specific) Haunt Cancelled Due to Inclement Weather (KICentral) No Hallween Haunt Tonight (KIExtreme) All of this is in addition to it being posted on their main website. but what about the mobile site, I did not bother to run to my phone that day to check it out, and thus the main idea of my post. I understand they did the twitter and facebook sites, but if its as the dude said not on the mobile site why didnt they do that one. I included the twitter and facebook sites in my post as part of digital media convergence..... But we can agree that with the exception of the mobile site (which even I had completely forgotten about) and the robo-caller (which according to Terpy is illegal) they used every means they had to inform people of the closure, right? No I agree with you the park did a good job of trying to inform the park but my thoughts are more directed to my original question of are these extras (twitter, facebook, mobile site) for the use of information of guests or just some high tech, in fashion commercial for the park. I think it could be both, but why bother to promote any if you dont utilize all of them.... I hope my point is clear if not let me know and I will restate it, hopefully more clear...

...but it was Twitter Facebook Twitter (Haunt Specific) Haunt Cancelled Due to Inclement Weather (KICentral) No Hallween Haunt Tonight (KIExtreme) All of this is in addition to it being posted on their main website. but what about the mobile site, I did not bother to run to my phone that day to check it out, and thus the main idea of my post. I understand they did the twitter and facebook sites, but if its as the dude said not on the mobile site why didnt they do that one. I included the twitter and facebook sites in my post as part of digital media convergence.....