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I'd watermark that picture before someone steals it.

Also when RMC first started out at Six Flags, any changes they did to their coasters were an immediate improvement. They basically kept the same layouts and just alterd the elements. You could argue when they redid Hurler at Kings Dominion they did it with a Six Flags Style where they kept the same layout but altered the elements. With Steel Vengeance, they pretty much built a brand new coaster. Cedar Fair doesn't have any other wooden roller coasters that really need help from RMC. I think RMC's big products now are the Raptors and later the T-Rexes.

The only thing I have to say about that is RMC had a lot on their plate when they built that ride. Cedar Point wanted them to go all out and they certainly did. They had a build on top of an existing wood structure which, in my opinion, is a lot harder than starting from the ground up. Look at the amount of supports there on Goliath in comparison to Steel vengeance.

Kings Island replaces their togo stand-up with a Delirium Kings Dominion replaces their togo stand-up with a Delirium

I've heard that Gravity Group's coasters require a lot more maintenance. I'm not sure who said it but it was someone on here

You did though, when you said I305 would be better. You went out of your way to make that comparison on page 24.

Isn't this contradictory?

They're two completely different coasters so it seems kinda dumb to compare them. I305 is low to the ground where Orion will have taller elements. That's like comparing Mystic Timbers to El Toro.

So they're calling it Iron Gwazi- Gwazi being the head of a Lion and the body of a Tiger- and they're theming it to a crocodile....

Is it safe to speculate that GCI will come back in the offseason to do work on the Red Racer?

Here are some thoughts I have For: Cedar Fair has been loading Kings Island up with world class coasters since its acquisition of the park. We have now have some of the best B&Ms and ,in my opinion, the best GCI out there. Why not add another world class coaster in the form of an RMC woodie? RMC's are affordable for the type of rides they produce. Kings Island has one of the best, if not the best, wooden coaster collections in the world so why not add to it? Against Son of Beast. Its not an issue of whether RMC could deliver a world class product that's reliable; they could. But if KI builds a wooden coaster that breaks 200ft, people are immediately going to be reminded of Son of Beast and all the issues it had. Though Son of Beast is long gone, the ride is still known as the park's greatest failure. Land. Kings Island isn't short on land, but it would be hard to build a 200ft+ coaster without expanding outward, removing existing attractions, or getting super creative with the layout. Hypothetically, if they used the old Son of Beast station, they would have to thread the track between Banshee and The Bat or demolish Timberwolf, and clear out a lot of Action Zone land. Area 72 would be a good location but I feel like that area would get super congested with 3 coasters in an area that's known as a dead end. Might not be the best move. Orion and Mystic Timbers are proof that the park focuses more on the GP than it does the enthusiasts. Not to say that they don't care about the enthusiasts, but they're not the target audience. If KI were to build a massive wooden coaster, it would have to be something the GP would want/would be willing to ride. I don't think we'd get anything along the lines of a wooden Steel Vengeance.

https://www.wptv.com/lifestyle/taste-and-see/live-seaworld-orlando-to-make-major-announcement Looks like a mellow Pantheon

I wonder why.... hahaha

Iron Gwazi.... How long did it take you guys to think of that name?

Some things I think would be cool to add. Change in the projections in the shed Bring back the train but this time have people ride the entire length of the ride and go past creepy scenes I heard they stopped train operations for 2 reasons: 1 because the addition of MT shortened the length of the attraction to make it not worth it. 2 because the trains have a certain amount of run-time on their boilers so the park opted Haunt in favor of Winterfest) Change up Boo Blasters with extra props, and more creepy music I heard scareactors are no longer allowed in the ride building for safety reasons. @XGatorHead 8904 would know Add different audio in the Adventure Express tunnels

I'm personally not a fan of the 12 days of Christmas train ride. I'd rather have the train go past different scenes and have different types of music play like at Busch Gardens Williamsburg.

Just a quick survey, which is more likely for Carowinds- RMC or GCI? I think either could come at some point in the future. If GCI I'd think of something like MT or Gold Strinker in their old DA area. If it was RMC I would say the same area but a little more intense, like Goliath at SFGA. I doubt Hurler would get the RMC treatment.

That area seems like good Haunt real estate. I wonder why it isn't used anymore.

I said I'd be back after the "Giga Speculation Thread" It seems like RMC is a likely candidate for one of our next BIG coasters down the road. Our last 200ft wooden, however, didn't do so well. Thoughts? I'll give my opinions later on once this thread picks up.

300ft tall if you're standing at the bottom of the drop

I wonder why the Great Pumpkin Fest got moved to Planet Snoopy this season.

The only one's I'd be interested in are Tempest, Tilt-a-whirl, and the Flying Bobs. The rest could go to a smaller capacity park like Michigan's Adventure.

Coney doesn't have rides to match KI's capacity.

Unless Intamin's maintenance costs go down significantly, I wouldn't see Cedar Fair working with them anytime soon. Notice how the last time the chain got something from them was nearly 10 years ago. There's a reason for that.