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But, why would people think that? Do they not promote their Golden Tickets for Cedar Point? I usually see one on the front of their guides about how they've been voted best amusement park for umteenth years in a row. Not to mention their coaster rankings. Has anyone seen a guide for this year?

I'm going to check it out this weekend. I was going to go last week, but they weren't open during the week. They had a piece on the local news and it looks impressive. I called and it's $7.00 if you just play golf or $6.00 if you buy a ticket to the park. I'll take some pics.

Well though I never claimed to be a statistical genius I think it is made pretty obvious when all I've ever heard is cheering after the ride and watched people "marathon", if you will, the thing about 4-5 times. And, what is the difference between myself using an enthusiast internet site as a source of information, and you discrediting them, but you can use and enthusiast site, and post information as if it's valid? So the sites you bring up are to be believed, but the other sites that I brought up are just a bunch of people that just don't count? ... and I'm the one that is letting opinions get into the way of trying to substitue a fact? Ok. What I am getting at is what you and catzdrummer09 have heard is only a small sampling of public opinion. You are probably both right in what you have heard. But neither of you (and this really could include myself as well) have enough public opinion to know what the MAJORITY of the GP think. The only way you could do that would be to ask nearly every rider the opinion of SOB for at least one season. Even then, you couldn't really say that is the public's opinion of the ride, but it would at least be a much larger sampling of what the GP really thinks of this coaster. Plus, I'd like to know what the GP thinks after the modifications and removal of the loop.

Yes, but this is not being built in Australia. It's in ORLANDO! No matter how you slice it, this is NOT a slight to Steve Irwin. Better take automobiles off the road too. I'm sure some celebrities have been killed in auto accidents as well. And they seem to be just as important to a lot of us as Steve was to Australia.

^I do agree with you on that. I have read a few TR's and some say the improvements helped, others do not believe so. I've seen about half and half. However, what about the GP's opinion? Seems to me THAT is probably more important than what the coaster community thinks. Albeit, you'd like to have both. Believe me tggr, I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm just saying that maybe your opinion of the coaster is getting in the way of what you believe is the GP's opinion.

If they don't like the hours, they can always go on a day when they are open later. At that specific time of year and day, that is their full operating hours, so I don't see a discount for that.

You really should listen much closer. What you believe to be cheering for the ride, are actually cheers that the ride is over. If you listen even closer, you will hear the groans of pain. How do you know that for sure? Were you there at that time? Were you in the same crowd? Were you one of the patrons exiting SOB at said time? Maybe, just maybe, the improvements CF has made were enough to make this a likable ride to the GP(and maybe not to YOUR liking). And, have those coaster polls been redone after the problems have been fixed? If not, those opinions really aren't valid any more. I rode SOB last year and it was far better than previous years with the shuffling. I don't find it to be boring at all. All I'm saying is that you guys are so convinced that no one likes this ride, even after the improvements have been made. Where's the data to back that up?

So, then, anyone who is not a public figure who have been attacked by sharks or other animals are less important? Now, if they were naming it Steve Irwin: The Experience, then you might have an arguement.

Not bad for 1.2 million. I guess this rumor finally came true.

I'm not following you...I suppose by your logic we should close all Shark exhibits and cancel shark week on the Discovery Channel since people have been attacked by sharks?

Sounds like a good time. Wish our band had taken a KI trip.

This looks like a really cool concept. Keep us posted!

I rode TR:TR and it was very boring to me. Can't wait to see what the Crypt does. If it's anything like Texas Twister was at GL, then it should be tons better. I have a back problem as well and neither of those top spins did any harm to me.

Now the question is, is attendance up due to gas prices or the deep discounts? That is, if in fact attendance is up.

Interesting considering Dick Kinzel is or was so convinced that attendance would be up this year based on people staying closer to home to vacation.

I was just throwing that out there as a joke considering I don't think Interpreter is going to reveal what he does. Anyhoo, from what I know of Interp, he is a nice guy and often funny. I have also heard that Mr. Kinzel is quite personable as well. So, no offense to either of you guys.

^Yep. I have heard that in the earlier years, that was one major complaint about SF.

The coaster that is down IS at Cedar Point...and it's the Wildcat. Here's a thread where it's being discussed.

You mean not a footer! I'm going tonight to try out the new miniature golf. I will take pics and post them here as soon as I can.

Actually, I don't believe they ever tell the GP exactly what happened. Most I have ever heard was mechanical problem or technical difficulties.

He's really Dick Kinzel!

^We're just getting old.

I can't wait to read a Trip Report and see if the new trains have made any kind of a difference at all. Although judging from that article, they are making the claim that it is rougher. I thought that pretty much the point of the new trains would decrease the roughness, not increase it.

That is interesting, Woofer. I don't know any Canadians and I had no idea that they liked to be called Americans as well.

I am wondering exactly what they can do to fix this problem. A slightly longer section of chain lift? It will be interesting to see how they will fix this problem. And it blows my mind that this hasn't ocurred before now.