BoddaH1994 Posted August 9, 2004 Share Posted August 9, 2004 This is a write in only poll. Ok, if we ask what the best investment is, you're all going to say The Beast. If we ask what ride to remove, then you'll all say none of them, so here is my question. With the exception of The Bat, what do you think is the worst investment PKI or KI has made in its history? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skier Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Would have to be SOB. What happens when you have a company that is not that great, add bad wood, and lawsuits? Well you get SoB. Plus, on the weekdays, it has a line shorter than FoF. BTW... I am 6ft and love SoB. If you figure out the right way and place to ride it is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeliriumDreamer Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Cyber sez- when it was working, I barely saw anyone do it. I personally think it's a waste of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 This is a hard one. I would also say SOB but that ride can be fixed. The Worst Investment has to be all of the pay for rides they take up so much room and its a be waste of land and investment for the park down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialk141 Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 getting rid of the sweet stand in coney mall for a subway..... BOOO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bat Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I'd say that by far the worst investment is neither a ride, shop, or coaster, but rather the park being bought by Paramount in general. Sure, Paramount has provided us with so many well themed rides and attractions and brought in more revenue, but I somehow feel that when I was just a little tike growing up, the park was more enjoyable when I remember it not being owned by Paramount... those few years of my life that it is. I remember little things like rides based off pure fun (Racer and The Beast) and not some phoney hollywood themed ride like Tomb Raider. I just feel that Paramount should get back to basics, Theming is good.. but at what cost? Again, the worst investment by the park was letting itself be bought. PS - My First Post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docdude316 Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 I'd have to say TR:TR. With the amount of money that it cost, and the amount of downtime it's had, it can't have been a good investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 SoB- For reasons that I have stated numerous times before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Bowser Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 Tomb Raider..Sad But True... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 SOB the worst investment. Wow. Now I know none of you know anything. The worst investment is Face/Off. Long lines (and not because its a good ride but rather because of one train), now very lasting, not very re-rideable(whoa, sp?) because there is only one car and because of the long lines. I guess it served its purpose but a lot of other things could have and should have been put in that spot. Get rid of it. It just takes up space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIDelirium Posted August 11, 2004 Share Posted August 11, 2004 yeah, SoB is running OK right now, jut sit in a non-wheel seat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Punk Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 SOB the worst investment. Wow. Now I know none of you know anything. The worst investment is Face/Off. Long lines (and not because its a good ride but rather because of one train), now very lasting, not very re-rideable(whoa, sp?) because there is only one car and because of the long lines. I guess it served its purpose but a lot of other things could have and should have been put in that spot. Get rid of it. It just takes up space. What else could they have put there? Would you have suggested another flat? That was the year they added DZ. This would have meant two flats in the same year. Also, there is no other type of coaster they could have added at that time. What type of coaster would have been small enough? (with the exception of a wild mouse) I don't think it was a bad investment, but you are right about the long line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Paramount did let the park go somewhat, but it's getting better, and they've added some of the best rides around, and some awesome theming. If you want a classic park experience based off of pure fun, go to any park in the US besides Disney, Universal, or Paramount, even though PKI is really a hybrid of every type of park except animal. Tomb Raider was an excellent investment, and has proven that seasonal parks can create excellent highly themed attractions. Son of Beast, in my opinion, is one of the best rides around. It's rough, but its had its fair share of success, and I think just due to its size and scale it will be a landmark attraction for the park for years to come. I really can't say that PKI has made a really poor investment, since all of their investments have done what they were meant to do, generate more money for the park, and in general improve the guest experience in one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 SOB the worst investment. Wow. Now I know none of you know anything. *yawn, snore, zzzzzz* -another troll Trying to flame people just because you don't agree with their opinion only shows immaturity. I consider SoB to be a bad investment only because it is the tallest, fastest, and world's only looping wooden coaster, and even with those great accomplishments, it is known more for the pain it dishes out. A ride like that, especially with that kind of price tag, should be THE signature ride for PKI. Like TR;TR is considered one of the best dark rides, SoB is not even close to one of the best woodies in all of the polls, now that is not only my opinion, that is the opinions of many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 What else could they have put there? Would you have suggested another flat? That was the year they added DZ. This would have meant two flats in the same year. Also, there is no other type of coaster they could have added at that time. What type of coaster would have been small enough? (with the exception of a wild mouse) I don't think it was a bad investment, but you are right about the long line. Back then I would have not suggested two flat rides. Knowing the success of flat rides now, I would. I don't see the problem with two flat rides in one year. Its obvious that they thought Face/Off couldn't strengthen that era of the park on its own or else they would of had to bring in that second attraction (Drop Zone). I don't know what rides were in or out or invented or not invited around that time. I cannot tell you what should have been put there in it's place. A wild mouse did come to mind but I can't picture one in that location. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I consider SoB to be a bad investment only because it is the tallest, fastest, and world's only looping wooden coaster, and even with those great accomplishments, it is known more for the pain it dishes out. A ride like that, especially with that kind of price tag, should be THE signature ride for PKI. Like TR;TR is considered one of the best dark rides, SoB is not even close to one of the best woodies in all of the polls, now that is not my opinion, that is the opinions of many. O.K. Well, if they haven't fixed the ride to where it stops dishing out pain (and I dunno if they can), then that says something. They don't think of it as their signature ride. I dunno if Discovery Channel is national enough for you but here. http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/coast.../poll/poll.html These are the top 10 roller coasters in America  five wooden and five steel  according to our users. Now we want you to pick the "best of the best." Click the circle beside your choice for best coaster of 2002, then hit "submit answer" at the page bottom to vote. Not sure? Click "play" for a video glimpse of any ride. Then it goes on to list the coasters. Son of Beast is there and so (PKI's real signature ride) The Beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKI Punk Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 The park felt the need to expand a new area...i.e.Action Zone, therefore they felt the need to add two rides in one area. That explains the addition of BOTH Face/Off and DZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Bourne Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Oh. So, now it takes two rides to expand an area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted August 12, 2004 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I think that your Discovery Channel poll that you found says it all. DC picked those coasters (back in 2002) to be voted on, and the voters have accumulated 0% votes for SoB, or only 29,734 votes out of 7,052,618. And the only reason SoB is on that list is that it was featured on DC in a "Modern Marvels" segment. Additionally, SoB is the most expensive coaster on that list, I would hope the investment warranted a stronger showing than 0% votes. Everyone loves a big, fast coaster and there are people that love SoB, but if you would go to any other coaster site, or even use the "search" feature on PKIC, the general consensus is that SoB treats you like a James Bond martini, "Shaken not stirred". A truly great coaster should be more fun than pain (just like The Beast), and SoB is MUCH more pain than fun. And I would hope that any park would not make a $20,000,000+ investment and not have that ride be a signature ride. And they even tried to fix the problems this year with retracking, yet to no avail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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