Starting to Decode 2014

[YoungStud]

An invert for KI makes the park unique?

[dwitb]

@dwitb. Four times

How many times does FoF invert? Twice?

Four. Three at the very beginning and one at the very end.

Really? The part after the launch is so confusing to me. I knew it inverted at the very beginning and very end, but I didn't know it did 4 times.

[The Interpreter]

Kingda Ka also was also broken down on opening day a lot more than SheiKra which opened on the same day!

Really? Kingda Ka had far less downtime on its opening day than did Chang or Top Thrill Dragster or Son of Beast. I could go on...

Terp, who rode Kingda Ka multiple dozens of times that splendid New Jersey day...

[jcgoble3]

@dwitb. Four times

How many times does FoF invert? Twice?

Four. Three at the very beginning and one at the very end.

Really? The part after the launch is so confusing to me. I knew it inverted at the very beginning and very end, but I didn't know it did 4 times.

Yes. The first time I rode it, I thought it only inverted once at the end. The first three happen so fast with you plastered to your seat that you basically have to know they're there to recognize that you're upside down.

[intaminallday]

@dwitb. Four times

How many times does FoF invert? Twice?

Four. Three at the very beginning and one at the very end.

Really? The part after the launch is so confusing to me. I knew it inverted at the very beginning and very end, but I didn't know it did 4 times.

I thought it was just a corkscrew and a cobra roll?

[jcgoble3]

There's a cobra roll (which includes two inversions) at the beginning and the corkscrew at the end. I'm not sure what the third inversion is.

[TheCrypt]

There is a sidewinder inversion right after the cobra roll.

The ride order is this:

Launch

Cobra Roll

Sidewinder

Turny Fluff

MCBR

More Turny Fluff

Corkscrew

Brake

[silver2005]

Here's a POV of Joker's Jinx, filmed by the Discovery Channel (so it's legal), which is essentially a bigger outdoor version of Flight of Fear. The inversions are a cobra roll (2), a sidewinder, and a corkscrew.

Seriously, for those of you wondering about coaster facts and stuff, rcdb.com will blow your mind.

Edited July 28, 2013 by silver2005

[jcgoble3]

What is a sidewinder? I've never heard that term.

[bmbillups]

When do you all guess ki will shoot out that text?

[Rc1111]

I'm going to go ahead and say this is going to be a winged coaster named "Banshee" because of The Bat reference.

EDIT: and because of the fact that Cedar Fair seems to like all their parks to be similar.

For the 100th time: Mr. Oiumet (Cedar Fair's new CEO) has stated that there are no other wing coasters on the menu. He also stated he wants each park to be unique. What you stated is what the old CEO was doing. Here's the interview during Gatekeeper's opening:

Sorry, I never saw that interview.

[silver2005]

A sidewinder is a half loop followed by a half corkscrew. Its kind of like an Immelman, but the exiting of the element is much higher. Anaconda's second inversion is another good example. If it does the half corkscrew first, its a reverse sidewinder, which a good example of that is SFoG's Ninja's 3rd inversion.

[rcwizard13]

When do you all guess ki will shoot out that text?

When they are ready to. Why so excited? The text could be anything.

[bmbillups]

@rcwizard. Thanks man. That helped a lot. Guess it's not cool to talk about unknown answers in a decoding thread.

[THE_BEASTmaster]

An invert for KI makes the park unique?

I think he was referring to ride placement, like for example having Gatekeeper fly over the main gate of Cedar Point. Maybe our coaster will do something spectacular over Action Zone, like have a cobra roll or a batwing (that flies underground) placed where the water tower used to be if it's an invert.

[dwitb]

Video makes sense, but what a turny fluff and an MCBR?

[BoddaH1994]

Matt Ouimet wouldn't lie about Winged Coasters going to other parks. He could have easy dodged the question or given a vague answer. I honestly think no means no.

I don't think that Don posted about The Bat for no reason. It's not a Winged Coaster, but what other types of coasters are Kings Island lacking that could have you flying though the air like a bat?

[dwitb]

An invert for KI makes the park unique?

I think he was referring to ride placement, like for example having Gatekeeper fly over the main gate of Cedar Point. Maybe our coaster will do something spectacular over Action Zone, like have a cobra roll placed where the water tower used to be if it's an invert.

I think that's exactly one of the elements....at least some sort of element right there.

[Tr0y]

Hey jayblazer is it ok for screamscape to use your photos?

[rcwizard13]

@rcwizard. Thanks man. That helped a lot. Guess it's not cool to talk about unknown answers in a decoding thread.

Umm... the post is intended as sarcasm. Sorry if I offended you.

[secondson]

I'm not trying to play forum police here, so I hope certain members won't bash me over the head for posting this. I wonder if maybe KIC needs to institute a rule requiring everyone to read through an entire thread first before commenting.

I think I speak for a lot of people when I say the issue of Project 2014 being a wing coaster is a dead one. This has been discussed over and over already: it is NOT going to be a wing coaster. PLEASE....watch this video and pay particular attention to what Matt Ouimet says starting at timestamp 2:15.

P.S. I guess I need to take my own advice and read through all the posts first before leaving responses. I see Beastmaster already posted this video. I'm sorry, dude....I'm a bit slow in reading this evening.

[The Interpreter]

Uh...that video was JUST posted...again.

[rcwizard13]

Video makes sense, but what a turny fluff and an MCBR?

I believe "turny fluff" was a term he made up to mean the coaster goes through some twists and turns. Oh, and MCBR means Mid Course Brake Run.

[BoddaH1994]

The video really can't be posted enough. It's NOT a Winged Coaster. Keep speculating.

[The Interpreter]

At least one member here isn't speculating, nor expectorating.

[dwitb]

I don't think it's a winged but pay close attention to 2:03:

Interviewer says, "If this were to be a success would you see this as something like that being replicated to other amusement parks in the chain?"

Ouimet says, "Yeah, clearly that's the case..."

Again, I do not think it's a winged.

[BoddaH1994]

At least one member here isn't speculating, nor expectorating.

You know what they say: Those who know don't tell.

[vortexfan]

I don't think it's a winged but pay close attention to 2:03:

Interviewer says, "If this were to be a success would you see this as something like that being replicated to other amusement parks in the chain?"

Ouimet says, "Yeah, clearly that's the case..."

What were you expecting him to say? "Nah bro, we'd ignore the success and move on."

[BoddaH1994]

I don't think it's a winged but pay close attention to 2:03:

Interviewer says, "If this were to be a success would you see this as something like that being replicated to other amusement parks in the chain?"

Ouimet says, "Yeah, clearly that's the case..."

What were you expecting him to say? "Nah bro, we'd ignore the success and move on."

No, I'd expect him to say, "If we see the success that we hope to see out of Gatekeeper, we would consider adding them to other parks." Or something to that effect. He has to be careful with what he says. He's the CEO. Again, there could be more winged coasters on the docket for other properties but for now no means no.

[Rollerzach]

I would like to see gate keeper vest restraints on the new invert.

They are horrible, aren't they?

I didnt think they were

I have a long upper torso and the restraints press again my collar bones. And as the ride makes it's course the restraints seem to tighten slight

I would like to see Gatekeeper vest restraints on a invert as well but I do have the same problem with them tightening during the ride and hurting my collar bones.