davidw Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Finally have an update for today. 1 support was installed. Link to gallery 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 What's with this floor dropping nonsense? Who cares? The coaster experts have it formulated. We are seeing new invert trains that tilt like wing riders. I'm sure the trains will only drag your feet scraping on the ground for 2-3 seconds. Suck it up man and ride. Take some metal shoes. Get your feet amputated or something beforehand. I thought we are enthusiasts and not a geriatric council for bingo man. You don't need feet. Walk on your calves if you have to. You are coaster clubbers! Now get in there and give me twenty....rides! What's with people dictating what other people talk about? Especially when the debacle is over with? We wanna talk; set things straight, and give our opinions or arguments. WE care. Same reason why I responded to you calling it out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire-Beast-OF FEAR Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 The only floor that I care about dropping is the one that drops 70 feet after a zero-g roll. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 What's with this floor dropping nonsense? Who cares? The coaster experts have it formulated. We are seeing new invert trains that tilt like wing riders. I'm sure the trains will only drag your feet scraping on the ground for 2-3 seconds. Suck it up man and ride. Take some metal shoes. Get your feet amputated or something beforehand. I thought we are enthusiasts and not a geriatric council for bingo man. You don't need feet. Walk on your calves if you have to. You are coaster clubbers! Now get in there and give me twenty....rides! What's with people dictating what other people talk about? Especially when the debacle is over with? We wanna talk; set things straight, and give our opinions or arguments. WE care. Same reason why I responded to you calling it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanofFirehawk Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 ^^ Have you been rendered speechless? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 I didn't call anything out bro...and was poking fun at the absurd. It wasnt me man. Which I always do on boards I like. Take a moment to breathe. Its all good. I dig most everyone here... It was just a crap post to get everyone united. No worries and I didn't mean to push buttons. The internet is all a joyous children's book. Read and forget. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Cookies for all! 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Now let's all hold hands and sing "kum ba yah". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 That may well sound like the wailings of a Banshee! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 You've heard me sing apparently. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbacker27 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Sorry guys, didn't mean to get everyone in a jumble. EDIT: Am I the only one that thinks Firehawk would look great in Banshee's place and Banshee would go with X-Base? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Topography. Banshee uses the gully it sits in. Putting it where Firehawk is would at best be much more expensive, if it could be done at all. Vice versa, too. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbacker Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Now let's all hold hands and sing "kum ba yah". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Can we sing this song too? http://youtu.be/iCQ0vDAbF7s 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gplez90 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 not complaining but when are they going to tell us the height of the inversions? sorry my ocd gets to me, i like to know every fact i can about a ride. i do know that the first loop is 120-130ft because Delirium comes close to the loop crest when its full height is reached, if it does anymore. side note: off topic for a minute... but good lord what the h#ll happened to Delirium's ride cycle? one full height swing (2 if you're lucky) and done? not worth the wait even with Fast Lane... sorry now that was complaining. black widow at kennywood is just so much better. The height of the dive loop is officially 126ft. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcwizard13 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 ^Not that I don't believe you, but how do you know? Do you know the others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Now let's all hold hands and sing "kum ba yah". Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Can we sing this song too? Obviously, you've not heard me sing. I do love that song. It is such a happy little ditty. Michael Stipe has such a great voice in my opinion. Did you catch the eye bows on a few if them? Wowzers. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire-Beast-OF FEAR Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Cause everybody hurts...2.....3...... Sometimes! 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MantisMan Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Another piece of track installed...... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gplez90 Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 ^Not that I don't believe you, but how do you know? Do you know the others? Kings Island stated it in the comments on the picture. Its further down in the comment section on the picture of the dive loop. The height of the others have not been posted. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152323410763368&set=pb.155893938367.-2207520000.1384524639.&type=3&theater 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChainDog Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 That dive after the roll is going to be sweet Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 (Both Pictures Courtesy of Kings Island) 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Photo of the loop surrounding Banshee's lift hill.... (Photo taken by MasonBuzz) The whole Banshee photo album taken by MasonBuzz, two days ago, can be found here..... http://masonbuzz.com/photos/album/72157637461402024/Banshee-construction.html I still would like to know the reason the base of the loop is so far apart. It does not make sense. My first thought was clearance, but that is not the issue. Otherwise all the ther inverted coasters would be wide like that. Even on B&M's most recent inverted coaster, OzIris, the base of the loop is not wide. It is not because of the lift. Other B&M coasters loop around the lift and the are not that far apart. It appears that I am correct about the loop being stretched. If clearance was the reason, the track on Banshee would have the SAME clearance on each side, not just the middle. Yes, I went back to this discussion. Got a problem with it? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 My daddy would have said "So little boys can ask questions about it." 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoChickens Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 A little, I mean does it really matter? I'm sure there is a reason. Some reasonable causes have been discussed. What's the point of obsessing about it? 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 For example, if I see just ONE episode of a TV show that catches my attention, I have to go back and watch the entire thing to find the answers. Banshee is just "episode 42" in my B&M conquest. It may not be important to anyone else here, but I have to find out "why". 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoChickens Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 So, any of the possibilities previously discussed, you have rejected? Or does it require absolute resolution from the ride designers? Don't get me wrong here, not trying to "yank your chain", just curious as to your thoughts of "why". 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastForever Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 ^^Exactly, it's not REALLY important, but since there's nothing else discuss, what's the problem with bringing it up? We've got nothing better to do at the moment... Oh yeah and in no way are we "complaining" when we bring up the fact that the vertical loop on Banshee is much wider than most other B&M inverts, we're just discussing... In fact, I must say that I actually like that it's the way it is so far; it makes KI's long-awaited B&M invert just that much more unique and stand-out. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executioner822 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 ^Not that I don't believe you, but how do you know? Do you know the others? Kings Island stated it in the comments on the picture. Its further down in the comment section on the picture of the dive loop. The height of the others have not been posted. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152323410763368&set=pb.155893938367.-2207520000.1384524639.&type=3&theater cool. thanks for pointing that out. now for the rest of them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kat Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 ^^Exactly, it's not REALLY important, but since there's nothing else discuss, what's the problem with bringing it up? We've got nothing better to do at the moment... Oh yeah and in no way are we "complaining" when we bring up the fact that the vertical loop on Banshee is much wider than most other B&M inverts, we're just discussing... In fact, I must say that I actually like that it's the way it is so far; it makes KI's long-awaited B&M invert just that much more unique and stand-out. Refer to my previous post where I stated "complaining" wasn't necessarily the correct term as much as nit-picking over silly non-important details. As others have said: who cares, why does it even matter?? Is it really that important that it's wider? We are getting a new coaster, who cares if certain features differentiate from similar features of other B&M coasters. Are they not allowed to have variations, only cookie cutters? Just sayin'.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheikra_rocks Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 So, any of the possibilities previously discussed, you have rejected? Or does it require absolute resolution from the ride designers? Don't get me wrong here, not trying to "yank your chain", just curious as to your thoughts of "why". Just a more direct answer from someone who knows more, that is all I require. I don't need argument from the people who that when I pointed out the difference when I first noticed it, contested it. So, I will say it now. "Told you so." A couple reasons that were speculated why the loop is spread apart. 1. Clearance. While they are new trains, I doubt they will require THAT much clearance. If they need that much space between the 2 track sections, what about the supports on the outside of those 2 track sections? There would need to be equal clearance. Also, there only needs to be clearance enough for 1 train to pass through, as two trains will never cross at that point. (Lord knows KI likes to stack their other B&M.) 2. Line up with next inversion. Other B&M's have a slight turn to them at the bottom of the valley leading into the next element. Montu, Kumba, Diamondback, etc. Montu has 3 instances after the first loop, immelman, and zero g where the track turns at the bottom of the valley. Kumba has one after the loop, and then another leading toward the cobra roll. Diamondback has 2 obvious ones. "These are all different coasters." you say. Yes, they are, but it is the same principal. "Turn the train to go this way." 3. Reduce forces. I think they have this one figured out by now. This is not the reason. One final thought... Perhaps it is like that to make room for the queue which makes more sense than any of the other possible reasons that was previously discussed. I just thought of this while reviewing the photo of the blueprints. The queue will be going between the lift and the station, according to the blueprint. I said "perhaps", so I still need to know the correct answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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