rhyano Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 It is very early but what will Kentucky kingdom be getting besides reopening T3 (terror to the 3ed power) will it be a new coaster, flat ride, and or show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTW Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Hopefully an opening date. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleShawn Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 They need to have a new coaster every year. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 That isn't going to happen. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamesAndRides Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 They also may just fix T3. 2015 will only be KK`s 2nd year open... EDIT: On there website, Raging Rapids Water Ride, T3 and the 5,000 seat Amphitheater will open for 2015. http://www.kentuckykingdom.com/park-info/rides-service-today/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can't remember where I read it, but something I've read said Raging Water Rapids will be back this year. I'll be totally honest: as much as I liked Kentucky Kingdom this year, I'm doubtful T3 alone will be enough to get me back there in 2015. Even a simple flat ride addition would make it significantly more likely. Twisted Twins, though... Here's hoping they make it to 2016. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamesAndRides Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I can't remember where I read it, but something I've read said Raging Water Rapids will be back this year. I'll be totally honest: as much as I liked Kentucky Kingdom this year, I'm doubtful T3 alone will be enough to get me back there in 2015. Even a simple flat ride addition would make it significantly more likely. Twisted Twins, though... Here's hoping they make it to 2016. I think it was going to open this year, As they got the new rafts in over the winter. And as you said I probably wont be going till Twisted Twins is back. But hey, If they make T3 less rough, I may just go... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thekidd33 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Has there been a dollar figure announced for the T2 refurbishment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 ^ I haven't heard anything about how much the refurbishment of T2 will cost, yet. Nor do I think that any of those numbers have been released (if known) yet. ....But from what I have gathered, new trains will be the first thing to be purchased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 After my two Vekoma SLC experiences (at Darien Lake and then Canada's Wonderland) my sample so far indicates that they range from "moderately unpleasant, but borderline rideable" to "Oh God, Oh God, we're all gonna die". I will probably go to ride T3 when it opens. I hope that it skews my sample in a good way. I'm not holding my breath on it. And yes, I did reference the finest show in the history of television in this post. Thank you for noticing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Seeing that RMC did the refurb of Thunder Run I am hoping they have great things in store for the Twisted Twins overhaul. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 I've been debating whether or not I would like to attend the park this year, but I may just wait for next year, if, hopefully, the park makes the revenue it needs from this year to continue on. I am actually anxious to try out a Vekoma SLC with new trains and such to see if its possible to take a hang and banger and make it a clean cut decent ride. I suppose the waiting game is in order. I just know that from my own past experiences with SLC's, like those of you who have been on them, I know the pain they can bring. I remember the first time I rode one was at Canada's Wonderland(Top Gun/Flight Deck). It banged my head around so much my ears bled ( mind you I hadn't had my somewhat new cartilage ear piercings in both ears for very long ) and yeah, my cousins were freaking out about the blood on my ears. It was not pleasant. My little second cousin rode like a champ though. Embarrassingly I bought the CDRide! video mainly for him since I never get to see my family up there much, but the entire time I am wincing in pure agony! It will be amazing if a new styled train can make a mean old dog somewhat mannered again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 Seeing that RMC did the refurb of Thunder Run I am hoping they have great things in store for the Twisted Twins overhaul. Do we even know RMC is actually refurbishing Twisted Twins? I haven't heard or read anything about it. I would honestly expect them to have Gravity Group do that before RMC, seeing that the former Gravity Group team, once known as Custom Coasters International, designed it. This is a ride I would love to see a set of Timberliners on, which have worked on smaller wooden coasters not unlike Twisted Twins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 On the park's website it said the Raging Rapids Ride opening has been push back to 2015. I personally believe the park will add a major new coaster new year. I just feel like it is common sense. The dry side has been slacking ever since the addition of Twisted Twins, and with that so many popular rides and coasters have been closed or moved out of the park. T2 (T3) opening with the Rapid Waters rides IMO is not enough to bring back guest. Guest have been all over the facebook page complaining that the park needs more coasters. If it is not a new coaster next year, then it has to be a major flat ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 2, 2014 Share Posted June 2, 2014 And where will the finances come from? Ed Hart does not strike me as the type who is willing to spend that type of capital out of his own pocket for that .... Plus there is no proof that the park will make enough money this year to guarantee operating next a year... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 We'll they having a good start in this part of the year Sent from my iPhone using... You get the point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Seeing that RMC did the refurb of Thunder Run I am hoping they have great things in store for the Twisted Twins overhaul. Do we even know RMC is actually refurbishing Twisted Twins? I haven't heard or read anything about it. I would honestly expect them to have Gravity Group do that before RMC, seeing that the former Gravity Group team, once known as Custom Coasters International, designed it. This is a ride I would love to see a set of Timberliners on, which have worked on smaller wooden coasters not unlike Twisted Twins. No, we don't know. Hence my use of the word "hoping". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 And where will the finances come from? Ed Hart does not strike me as the type who is willing to spend that type of capital out of his own pocket for that .... Plus there is no proof that the park will make enough money this year to guarantee operating next a year... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk This is not just Ed Hart who is investing into the park. There are three/four other investors with him. Even if the park do not generate enough revenue this season, I believe/know the park is still going to be open next year and the years to come. You don't fight for years even prior to the closure of the park in 2009 to invest millions just to close a park. We should not really be thinking about finances and money and such and such. If the park was sold in 2009 to Hart avoiding a closure, we would not even being talking about finances; we would only being talking about the bright future simply because Ed Hart is back. Think about the past and think about the future. Ed Hart has said it countless number of times, "It's all about the rides, stupid" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R55QOzIqTsM Did you guys even even read this article? Plans for 'next level' Hart said that to take Kentucky Kingdom "to the next level," his team will focus on roller coasters, the primary pull of any ride park. The short-term plan is to add a coaster — dubbed "Terror to the 3rd Powers," or T-3 — next year and then in 2016 to revive a matching set of two long-dormant park coasters, the Twisted Twins http://www.courier-journal.com/story/life/family/2014/05/19/kentucky-kingdom-ready-reopening-officials-say/9301559/ Kentucky Kingdom has a lot of rebuilding to do to get back where it was in the year 1999. So far the place is on track to do so. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 He also has a full state of investors as well ^^_ 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 And that's where the rub will be... I can say that I'm goin to add a deck to my house but if there is no income then I wot be building a deck. He has done well so far but the question remains will the crowds be big enough to allow KK to build more... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcgoble3 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 This is not just Ed Hart who is investing into the park. There are three/four other investors with him. Even if the park do not generate enough revenue this season, I believe/know the park is still going to be open next year and the years to come. You don't fight for years even prior to the closure of the park in 2009 to invest millions just to close a park. We should not really be thinking about finances and money and such and such. If the park was sold in 2009 to Hart avoiding a closure, we would not even being talking about finances; we would only being talking about the bright future simply because Ed Hart is back. Let me rewrite this paragraph in a way that is actually correct. "This is not just Ed Hart who is investing into the park. There are three/four other investors with him. Even if the park do not generate enough revenue this season, I believe the park is still going to be open next year and the years to come. However, the park cannot open if it does not have the money to do so. You don't fight for years even prior to the closure of the park in 2009 to invest millions just to plan to close a park, but if the revenue dries up and you can no longer afford to keep the park open, then you have no choice but to close it regardless of what your plans for the park were. We should really be thinking about finances and money and such and such, because Kentucky Kingdom's future, even next year, hinges on being successful from a financial standpoint so that it has the money to sustain operations for seasons to come. If the park was leased in 2009 to Hart avoiding a closure, whether we would be talking about finances and whether there was a bright future to be talked about would be dependent on his plan as presented to the Fair Board in the lease proposal." Please take off the rose-colored glasses and acknowledge that the future is not as bright as you are claiming that it is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sccard01 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 This is not just Ed Hart who is investing into the park. There are three/four other investors with him. Even if the park do not generate enough revenue this season, I believe/know the park is still going to be open next year and the years to come. You don't fight for years even prior to the closure of the park in 2009 to invest millions just to close a park. We should not really be thinking about finances and money and such and such. If the park was sold in 2009 to Hart avoiding a closure, we would not even being talking about finances; we would only being talking about the bright future simply because Ed Hart is back. Let me rewrite this paragraph in a way that is actually correct. "This is not just Ed Hart who is investing into the park. There are three/four other investors with him. Even if the park do not generate enough revenue this season, I believe the park is still going to be open next year and the years to come. However, the park cannot open if it does not have the money to do so. You don't fight for years even prior to the closure of the park in 2009 to invest millions just to plan to close a park, but if the revenue dries up and you can no longer afford to keep the park open, then you have no choice but to close it regardless of what your plans for the park were. We should really be thinking about finances and money and such and such, because Kentucky Kingdom's future, even next year, hinges on being successful from a financial standpoint so that it has the money to sustain operations for seasons to come. If the park was leased in 2009 to Hart avoiding a closure, whether we would be talking about finances and whether there was a bright future to be talked about would be dependent on his plan as presented to the Fair Board in the lease proposal." Please take off the rose-colored glasses and acknowledge that the future is not as bright as you are claiming that it is. DONT ****ING DIS-RESPECT ME LIKE THAT....THAT SOME ***** **** THAT YOUR DOING MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 No matter the quality of their ride lineup, either current, near future or projected long future (say a 10 year plan), nor the quality of its employees, nor the quality of its patrons, Kentucky Kingdom is a business and therefor money should be right up there near or at the top of the list of things to worry about. They absolutely should be thinking abot finances and such and such, and as an extension it should be in the discussion here. Would Mr Hart pull the plug after 1 or 2 seasons? If he's a smart business man and he realizes that after 1 or 2 seasons he just can't get the money out of the park to make it successful and it doesn't appear that will happen within the next couple of seasons beyond he should absoultely pull the plug. The worst thing one can do financially is continue to throw good money at a bad product. I have no dog in this fight. I've never been to KK, may never go to KK. I don't really care if the park is successful or not so long as Kings Island remains successful (and if having a successful competor an hour or two to the southwest pushes KI to be more successful, then I'm all for KK being a hit). I don't know what crowds KK is getting at this point, I don't know what they expected, I don't know what they realistically think they'll get moving forward. Despite all the hard work put in so far, there is still much to be accomplished, chief among them is to make sure that the patrons who walk thru the turnstiles this season wil show up again next season and seasons beyond. Unless they can accomplish that goal, worrying about future coaster additions is for naught. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 They do have about $900,000 to use for the next budget. They announced in February of this year, 15,000 season passes were already bought at the $60.00 price tag. $900,000 to use to pay the bills, employees, put toward capital, etc. http://www.wave3.com/story/24833347/major-progress-at-kentucky-kingdom-gates-to-open-soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 If we are going to play the "What if" game, the park might never have closed the second time had Mr. Hart and his first group of investors not sold out and made millions and millions of dollars the first time. IF the park survives two or three years, and he can find a buyer to richly reward him, he will doubtless do it again, as he has numerous times before. Ed Hart is a businessman, and very wealthy. This is a business venture, not a charity or labor of love, with virtually all risk on the taxpayers of Kentucky, and nearly all upside with Ed Hart and his Democratic cronies, including Mr. Bruce Lunsford. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stashua123 Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Alright this is my opinion on what will happen to Kentucky Kingdom. I think there is still a risk that KK could close after this season but it is unlikely. I would say it is a 15% chance it could close after this season. From what I have heard KK had more than 30,000 people come opening weekend which is a lot of people when you compare it to the last year it was open. The park seems to have good reviews complementing on the landscape, staff friendliness and good rides. There is still a lot of work to do since yeah this park opening was just announced last June. They have done a lot in that time but still have some landscaping to focus on in the back of the park and where Lightning Run is. As people say "Rome was not built in a day". So I think unless something bad happens to the park, it will be alright. Next year they do have T2, The Water Rapid Ride and the 5,000 seat Amphitheater opening up next year. It will not be enough though to draw even more people so I think a new major attraction would work out. You could look at Kings Island in 1972 as an example. They where still having work done when the park opened and at first was not drawing big crowds. I bet some people where getting anxious about the park as you guys are about KK. But then on July 4th onward they got record breaking crowds and got recognition for being the first park other than Disneyland to draw more than 2,000,000 people in one year. So I think you guys need for the kinks to work out, see if it is improving and then if it does not you guys can worry. Just wait and see... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vortex lover Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Alright this is my opinion on what will happen to Kentucky Kingdom. I think there is still a risk that KK could close after this season but it is unlikely. I would say it is a 15% chance it could close after this season. From what I have heard KK had more than 30,000 people come opening weekend which is a lot of people when you compare it to the last year it was open. The park seems to have good reviews complementing on the landscape, staff friendliness and good rides. There is still a lot of work to do since yeah this park opening was just announced last June. They have done a lot in that time but still have some landscaping to focus on in the back of the park and where Lightning Run is. As people say "Rome was not built in a day". So I think unless something bad happens to the park, it will be alright. Next year they do have T2, The Water Rapid Ride and the 5,000 seat Amphitheater opening up next year. It will not be enough though to draw even more people so I think a new major attraction would work out. You could look at Kings Island in 1972 as an example. They where still having work done when the park opened and at first was not drawing big crowds. I bet some people where getting anxious about the park as you guys are about KK. But then on July 4th onward they got record breaking crowds and got recognition for being the first park other than Disneyland to draw more than 2,000,000 people in one year. So I think you guys need for the kinks to work out, see if it is improving and then if it does not you guys can worry. Just wait and see... You just said that perfectly!Sent from my iPhone using... You get the point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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