jcgoble3 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 http://www.kctv5.com/story/26137906/mom-says-son-got-concussion-on-worlds-of-fun-roller-coaster Two thoughts: 1. Park medical staff could have handled this better. 2. The last paragraph of the story is totally unnecessary. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Seems slightly sketchy. Bloody nose, ok, no mention if the epistaxis was brought under control. Proof of a concussion? Plus how serious was it. If he was alert, oriented, etc. and moving it's very mild, similar to probably smacking your head on something like a low door frame, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Is it bad that before I read the story, I knew it happened on Timberwolf? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 So did I. That is a rough ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 So bloody noses and possible concussion is covered by a sign? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merthecat Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 "It was shaking like rough" What does that even mean? -Mer, the Grammar Nazi. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 How do you hit your nose on an individually ratcheting PTC orange wooden coaster restraint (like Racer or Beast)? How? 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 Well my niece did hit the side of her face on my restraint in the helix of The Beast. The force was too much for her. Crazy but possible Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 It is possible to have a concussion but never hit your head. Severe shaking or a hard enough body blow can do it too. That said- did he ride the coaster by himself & was unaware that you have to sit in the seat in an upright position? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 How do you hit your nose on an individually ratcheting PTC orange wooden coaster restraint (like Racer or Beast)? How? The first time my son road Racer, that was a concern of mine. The restraint all the way down left a decent amount of room b/w the top of his legs and the bottom of the restraint. Strangely, he was jealous that the restraint came down and touched my legs (and then some) while I was jealous that he gets to experience it like it used to be with the buzz bar. While he was getting used to the ride, his head would dip pretty low. If he could actually make contact w/ the restraint or not with his nose, well thankfully I never found out, but about 1/4 of the way thru his first lap, I extended my arm out over him to keep him from moving too far forward. He's grown a bit since last year, plus he's learned how to ride coasters now that he's taken several laps on each of the 48" coasters, so its no longer a fear, but trust me the fear was real (though I'll admit perhaps unfounded). While at 11 years of age, I'll presume he was a taller than my then 5 year old, stronger as well, but perhaps not, both would have shared the lack of experience riding a coaster. I have seen someone walk off The Beast with a bloody nose before. He may have been Fabio'd for all that I know, or perhaps he banged his nose on the car/restraint or perhaps there was another reason all together. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I notice from time to time that some riders don't exactly sit up straight on roller coasters with lap bars. I could see a hit to the head possible if the rider were doing that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The ride is really rough. It's one I may never ride again. With that being said, it seems like the story has some things missing. A child can have a nose bleed for many reasons. The ride op may not have seen it. Someone that's not a ride op (guest) could have given him a towel. Or it could have been one he already had. With a concussion, can they tell time frames of when it happened? Rushed to the hospital after an hour? That's not rushed. If I knew my child was truly hurt it would take less time than that if I had to drive myself. My daughter caught a ball with her face. I looked at her face and knew it was minimal injury (glasses got the brunt in of the force, but did not break). We drove to the hospital within 30 minutes as a precautionary measure. This to me is a normal response to a child's injury. She had nothing broke, no concussion, not even a black eye just slight swelling. Just a wonderful evening in the ER with an Xray and some other kind of scan. If my child were truly hurt, my not so pleasant self would show especially if I felt my child was hurt and in need of care and they weren't treating her as I felt they should). I would have told them they need to get me another paramedic for a second opinion or call 911 NOW. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Should say: Mom exploits son for free money. Or not. Who knows. Hope the kiddo is OK. Mom probably is a coaster enthusiast (bless her heart) who wants the equivalent of platinum passes... Or a platinum watch...who knows. At least the 18 year ride Op gave him a towel. They could frame that with the ticket stub and a postcard of Timber wolf. Perhaps they should have purchased a 'photo op' ride picture for evidence... Too far? ::hangs head just in case:: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 If Mom were a coaster enthusiast, don't you think she would have ridden with her son? The article said she "hates roller coasters." 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Always reading the story in stride. One step ahead on that one. And it made me laugh...cause I did read the story. Nice one up Terp. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 Or maybe...she just doesn't ride Timber wolf for lack of liking concussions? Double post... But I can't edit now...cause you beat me to it. *Timberwolf keeps getting seperated on my phone. Not my fault. But...I could fix it? Not my style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 What kind of mom takes her 11 year old autistic son to an amusement park to ride coasters--alone? My head hurts. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 I hope you didn't hit your head on the restraints causing your head to hurt. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Existential Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 The kind that loves her son...just not coasters. Or concussions apparently... Point is just however... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Oh Lordy, I've had that happen on The Vortex and WWC- I just took some aspirin and wrenched my nose back in place. (On The Vortex, it sounded like someone crushed a bag of shelled peanuts when I hit.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 What kind of mom takes her 11 year old autistic son to an amusement park to ride coasters--alone? My head hurts. One of my friends has two autistic sons. One is high functioning. I know each child is different, but the high functioning autistic son would struggle to go on a trip if he was not prepared to go. He does really well as long as he's on a schedule and in a familiar setting. I don't see him riding a coaster on his own. He would have an anxiety attack. Additionally this young man would struggle with talking to someone he does not know even if he was injured. If a person approached him, he'd likely walk away. If his mom would put him on a coaster alone, she would have waited at the gate for him. Maybe the child who was injured is higher functioning than my friends son. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I work/worked with many many children along the spectrum of Autism. I have seen kiddos that are able to do almost anything alone, that have severe social problems (one kiddo didnt understand that sleeping, telling you "you are boring," or walking away in the middle of a conversation was all rude) to being unable to do anything. Unfortunately/fortunately, there is no real threshold that qualifies one as being high versus low functioning. A high functioning kiddo with autism could have a future as a lawyer or working in a sheltered workshop. This kiddo could have been one of the real high functioning kiddos or have been given the diagnosis of Educational Autism which is done without any medical team. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Some of the high functioning Autistic children and people I know amaze me. Some of the knowledge and insight they have, just absolutely incredible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 What kind of mom takes her 11 year old autistic son to an amusement park to ride coasters--alone? My head hurts. I have met a kid at Holiwood Nights that is autistic. He is probably 12 or 13 and his mom brings him one night and dad brings him the second night. Neither his mom or dad ride, they wait at the exit for him whenever he decides to get off the ride. He is a funny kid and loves coasters. Just kind of awkward while having a conversation with him. But I have ridden with him a couple of times each year, while my wife sits out some laps on Voyage, and he has always been enjoyable to sit next to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Journalistic Reporting at its Finest. Leaving much to be desired in details. As a parent I would not let me child ride by themselves. Autistic or not. Also as a parent I would not get a second opinion for a different paramedic. I respect paramedics and what they do immensely, but if I want a second opinion I will see a doctor. Finally why is this woman calling 911 over an hour after this event? This is not an emergency situation, you are diverting resources that could be better used for real emergencies. Also it looks as if the park could have handled this better, but we will know more once their statement is released on this event. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yea but.... What if the kids speech started slurring an hour later or he complained about vision issues or head pain? These symptoms may not show up for hours or days. What if she didn't know what to do and started freaking out? As for the second opinion, maybe she didn't like they way he blew off her son or was non chalant about it. As for the details, maybe she went to the paper maybe they found her. They can only print what they can find out. If the park and hospital are not releasing info, then there is not much else they can write without becoming illegal (slander libel issues). Lastly, the kid is 11. Maybe he knows the park very well. My parents let my sister and I ride rides by ourselves around that same age. Not all parents are the same. Some know more or less. Maybe this parent is not highly educated and does not know what is or isn't an emergency. Attacking a potential victim when all facts are not know is a bit crazy. Now could she have blown very thing out of proportion, maybe. But let's hold the attacks off for a bit. I remember a few people here blamed the lady who fell out of a coaster before finding out the park was at fault (but te park blames manufacturer etc) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanna Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I notice from time to time that some riders don't exactly sit up straight on roller coasters with lap bars. I could see a hit to the head possible if the rider were doing that.Oh yah, sometimes the person is a little too relaxed, and not prepared for the motion, as I was.The Vortex incident was due to my size, (just because you can, doesn't mean you should- a varied size works both ways), and on the WWC, I was laughing at a younger rider and wasn't paying attention to the water cannons, and also, was too relaxed, and not braced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidw Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Before i read the story, I was expecting it to have happened during Mamba's breaks. But i do agree that Timberwolf is a rough ride. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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