freaks76 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Whatever will be, will be... I think I've heard or read that from one certain poster here....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Personally, I like both KI and CP. Cedar Point does have more of a destination park/"you've arrived" vibe, especially with Gatekeeper/the new front gate and Luminosity; Kings Island is familiar as it's been my home park for a number of years. Ridewise, Magnum > Diamondback, Banshee > Raptor, Adventure Express > CCMR and Beast > Mean Streak. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Let's move Python from Coney to KI Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freaks76 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Bet Coney would love that idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 The supports would probably crumble while being moved. And 6 passengers per train. Its the perfect fit for the park! Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiperArcher Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I don't know if it's just me, but while watching the Diamondback camera, I noticed that there is a larger clearing of trees than what used to be by the train shed and WWC station. I haven't been to the park yet this year (stuck at college doing 5 week summer classes), but it definitely looks different than it did when I watched the cameras a few weeks ago. Do they really need to clear a ton of trees everywhere for a coaster? If I had to guess, I'd say that if it is a coaster, we will start to see footers poured before the end of June at the latest. Currently jumping on the giga bandwagon because I think a woodie would require more clearing than there has been. Whatever it is I am already excited for it! Time will tell... 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 ...and Newsweek will add the color. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierjtf Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Let's see, I strongly prefer KI over CP. I also prefer in no particular order KD, Carowinds, Worlds of Fun, Dorney and a bunch of other parks over CP. Let's start at the bottom of my list. Six Flags America, CP. I heard I need to go back to Six Flags America though because I might have gone on a bad day. While the view from Millie is nice, you get an equally beautiful view of Lake Erie from another park - Waldamere Park on a coaster that far surpasses Millie named Ravine Flyer II. What an amazing coaster. I305 far surpasses Millie. It doesn't need something pretty to distract you from how amazing it is. The only wow at CP is Maverick and that is only since it received new restraints. I am hoping KI doesn't get anything like Maverick though. I want something more unique to KI than what other Cedar Fair parks have to offer. I really do not want an Intamin, I am sure that is not happening. I really do not think that B&M can one up Banshee, but would love to see them try. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk Honestly you could combine all other CF parks into one and CP would be better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBanshee Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 ^I think the park with 3 gigas would beat the park with Mille. Heck, the Python has more G's than Mille! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 ^I think the park with 3 gigas would beat the park with Mille. Heck, the Python has more G's than Mille! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Python has more air, that's a fact. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Whew. I was worried new pictures and descriptions of the destruction area and a tweet directly concerning project 2017 from the park was going to distract the decoding thread from its important job of discussing Cedar Point! I'm glad that didn't happen! I'm very curious about the reservoir seemingly being a nexus of the "paths" that we've seen. There are the "set pile" markers along the (tiny) gorge just next to the reservoir and train tracks, and then the trees either knocked down or marked for it on the other side of the reservoir near the turntable. Maybe my husband is right and this is going to be a new water ride of some sort. I'm also curious about Engineer Steve's comment during the train tour about the train having a different experience next year. But, that could go along with nearly anything, flat ride, water ride, or coaster. Heck, it already has a somewhat different experience with the new crossing. 23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bm0324 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Whew. I was worried new pictures and descriptions of the destruction area and a tweet directly concerning project 2017 from the park was going to distract the decoding thread from its important job of discussing Cedar Point! I'm glad that didn't happen! I'm very curious about the reservoir seemingly being a nexus of the "paths" that we've seen. There are the "set pile" markers along the (tiny) gorge just next to the reservoir and train tracks, and then the trees either knocked down or marked for it on the other side of the reservoir near the turntable. Maybe my husband is right and this is going to be a new water ride of some sort. I'm also curious about Engineer Steve's comment during the train tour about the train having a different experience next year. But, that could go along with nearly anything, flat ride, water ride, or coaster. Heck, it already has a somewhat different experience with the new crossing. I'm looking back at the picture and it makes me wonder, if something were to go over it, (say a coaster) would a woodie have sufficient room to go through there? I know it would be much easier for a steel coaster due to the support design and narrower track, but I haven't seen this area in person so I don't know how wide it is. Sent from my SM-G935P using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbias1 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I rode Diamondback today, but I didn't see any clearing back by the hammerhead like some said they had seen. I guess i probably missed it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Well, if you go to the right of this picture there are no unmarked trees (or marked ones), or anything else that would need clearance, just the two queue lines. And if you turn around and look behind you from where I was standing, you more or less see this: which is a wide area mostly already cleared, and the trees that remain have green spray painted markings too. So that area, at least, I would say it is enough room to not be able to make any assumptions about wood or steel. Maddening, right? 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zayzayd13 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I find Kings Island to be better than Cedar Point for the fact that KI still has charm. To be fair, I am more familiar with Kings Island, considering I live only 5 minutes from the park. In terms of rides, Banshee trumps Raptor and Diamondback barely surpasses Magnum in my book, but in my eyes those are really the only coasters that can adequately be compared. Yes, I know CP has Dragster, but as I have stated before, I find the ride to be overrated, along with many other rides (Gatekeeper, Rou, and even the new Valravn). Arguably, some would agree the same can be said for rides at Kings Island. I am not saying Cedar Point is not a good park, but I am saying it is not the best park, even if it is crowned "The Coaster Capital of the World". Sent from my SM-G925T using Tapatalk 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbias1 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 There may have been some clearing back there by Diamondback's hammerhead turn, it was just hard to tell. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbias1 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Let's see, I strongly prefer KI over CP. I also prefer in no particular order KD, Carowinds, Worlds of Fun, Dorney and a bunch of other parks over CP. Let's start at the bottom of my list. Six Flags America, CP. I heard I need to go back to Six Flags America though because I might have gone on a bad day. While the view from Millie is nice, you get an equally beautiful view of Lake Erie from another park - Waldamere Park on a coaster that far surpasses Millie named Ravine Flyer II. What an amazing coaster. I305 far surpasses Millie. It doesn't need something pretty to distract you from how amazing it is. The only wow at CP is Maverick and that is only since it received new restraints. I am hoping KI doesn't get anything like Maverick though. I want something more unique to KI than what other Cedar Fair parks have to offer. I really do not want an Intamin, I am sure that is not happening. I really do not think that B&M can one up Banshee, but would love to see them try. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk Honestly you could combine all other CF parks into one and CP would be better. Opinions vary. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Obviously. I think if opinions didn't vary, it would be rather boring. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIcoasterguy Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I have a love for KI over CP as well! The charm and setting of the park is the reason I drive an extra two hours each coaster trip and the reason I have a platinum pass! There is something special about KI that has made me feel like I rather visit there than anywhere else, within driving distance for a quick #staycation, I have CP 2hrs and 40mins away, MIA 3.5hrs away, SFGAm 5hrs away and KI is 4hrs 45mins but I visit KI the most. Back on decoding... The excess clearing of trees around the WWC queue/exit is very mysterious indeed... Project 2017 could be KI's biggest Coaster yet, the clearing out by the waterpark all the way out to Diamondback's hammerhead... 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Maybe they are not doing a coaster at all. Maybe they are clearing the land for water park expansion. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Let's see, I strongly prefer KI over CP. I also prefer in no particular order KD, Carowinds, Worlds of Fun, Dorney and a bunch of other parks over CP. Let's start at the bottom of my list. Six Flags America, CP. I heard I need to go back to Six Flags America though because I might have gone on a bad day. While the view from Millie is nice, you get an equally beautiful view of Lake Erie from another park - Waldamere Park on a coaster that far surpasses Millie named Ravine Flyer II. What an amazing coaster. I305 far surpasses Millie. It doesn't need something pretty to distract you from how amazing it is. The only wow at CP is Maverick and that is only since it received new restraints. I am hoping KI doesn't get anything like Maverick though. I want something more unique to KI than what other Cedar Fair parks have to offer. I really do not want an Intamin, I am sure that is not happening. I really do not think that B&M can one up Banshee, but would love to see them try. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk Honestly you could combine all other CF parks into one and CP would be better. This is false. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIcoasterguy Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Maybe they are not doing a coaster at all. Maybe they are clearing the land for water park expansion. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk We just got Tropical Plunge this year but I guess anything is possible, as of now I am currently thinking this could be a coaster but I am just decoding like the rest of the bunch lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Gal Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I grew up thinking KI was the best park in the world. Then I visited Cedar Point in 02 at the age of 21. KI was ruined for me and I know I'm not the only one. KI is always going to be special as it was the 1st legitimate park I visited as a kid. I know there is no chance KI will ever compare to CP, but it would be nice to have a giga as it may contend with Millennium. I am pretty sure the people here that complain about Intamin are just jealous of CP. Yes B&Ms are reliable(lack of tech), but they are decades behind Intamin. TTD, MF, and Maverick crush any non giga B&M and MF is better than fury due to the cable lift and lake. If a giga is not installed, it's just a sign CF is content with KI being just mediocre and that's sad. I strongly agree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoraX Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 Just throwing out what could be plausible. I have read much of the thread if not all and don't recall that being mentioned. Sent from my SM-G860P using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial79 Posted May 30, 2016 Share Posted May 30, 2016 I think its either a coaster or an expanded Rivertown area. Greg did say teasing at the 2016 announcement, "the rides in 2017 and 2018". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 I grew up thinking KI was the best park in the world. Then I visited Cedar Point in 02 at the age of 21. KI was ruined for me and I know I'm not the only one. KI is always going to be special as it was the 1st legitimate park I visited as a kid. I know there is no chance KI will ever compare to CP, but it would be nice to have a giga as it may contend with Millennium. I am pretty sure the people here that complain about Intamin are just jealous of CP. Yes B&Ms are reliable(lack of tech), but they are decades behind Intamin. TTD, MF, and Maverick crush any non giga B&M and MF is better than fury due to the cable lift and lake. If a giga is not installed, it's just a sign CF is content with KI being just mediocre and that's sad.I strongly agree. Decades behind Intamin, ha. B&M has a far superior safety record. That's what matters. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 And as far as Millenium Force being better than Fury? Bahahaha. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Look high says the kitty cat ,meow meow. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricsun Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Cats climb trees. Cats chase mice. Hrmmm.... Seems a bit wild. (electricsun who knows nothing but is hopeful) 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan Goddard Posted May 31, 2016 Share Posted May 31, 2016 Like I mentioned earlier, is it possible that it is a heads up for something about to happen? We did see some stakes that could mean footings are going in soon and maybe we need to keep an eye out. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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