sixohdieselrage Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 You all who are denying the Notice of Commencement make me laugh. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevM86 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Firehawk removal doesn't confirm it, but coupled with a notice of commencement which lists B&M makes it extremely likely. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastfan11 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, sixohdieselrage said: You all who are denying the Notice of Commencement make me laugh. Would you be able to confirm what part of the commencement specifically states that the potential project will occupy the Firehawk space? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 It doesn't say that it will occupy the space, but if the decision to remove Firehawk was in fact made in the middle of the summer (like Don said at the GOCC event), which would be like July or August, that kinda lines up to the time when the notice of commencement was filed which was in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 1 hour ago, FlightTimberHawk said: Plans can get cancelled or delayed at any time. We would have heard a lot more by now imo if this really was a humongous giga project. They announced Banshee 8 months before it's April 2014 opening. Carowinds, another Cedar Fair park, announced it's humongous giga project 7 months before it's opening. What on earth makes you think this project would be announced 13 months before it opens or that they'd release more info on it? 2 minutes ago, beastfan11 said: Would you be able to confirm what part of the commencement specifically states that the potential project will occupy the Firehawk space? Thanks. Nothing is saying this has to go to the Firehawk spot. It says B&M is building something at KI. B&M builds coasters. KI is getting a coaster. The Firehawk thing is just a strong coincidence and a likely landing spot. Just like they tore down SOB and the go cart track right before using that location to build Banshee. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fryoj Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: It doesn't say that it will occupy the space, but if the decision to remove Firehawk was in fact made in the middle of the summer (like Don said at the GOCC event), which would be like July or August, that kinda lines up to the time when the notice of commencement was filed which was in August. Double post: This has been brought up before, but if the decision to remove Firehawk was indeed made in the middle of Summer like has been claimed, the new coaster probably won't directly interact with the old Firehawk location. You don't just make major changes last minute like that with $30+ million dollar projects. This would have been planned out for years. Minor changes like queue, lockers, or support buildings might get changed that late in the game, but I think B&M would have had a fit having to go re-engineer plans that late in the process. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Fingers crossed for a 2020 coaster. I can't recall but has KI and CP ever gotten a coaster in the same year? I can think back and do some slight research but think ill ask instead lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2007 - CP: Maverick, KI: Firehawk. I know FH was relocated, but it still was an addition to the park. 2000 - CP: Millennium Force, KI: Son of Beast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightTimberHawk Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, Maverick44 said: Fingers crossed for a 2020 coaster. I can't recall but has KI and CP ever gotten a coaster in the same year? I can think back and do some slight research but think ill ask instead lol CP isn’t slated to get a coaster in 2020 but ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, FlightTimberHawk said: CP isn’t slated to get a coaster in 2020 but ok How do you know that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I think people forget that dollars (i.e.sales) are what matter to a business. The marketing focus right now would be to drive up sales of tickets/passes for the 2019 season. For the park to talk about or reveal anything which wouldn't be available until 2020 doesn't make much sense yet. Especially before the 2019 opening day. The focus from marketing right now is what is coming in 2019. See the blog and social media posts... Once activity becomes too hard to hide, then it makes sense to start teasing. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevM86 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 KI started teasing Banshee as soon as the park opened for the 2013 season. Hopefully we will see something around opening day this year. Does anyone know when the first footers for Banshee started showing up?Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 14 minutes ago, FlightTimberHawk said: CP isn’t slated to get a coaster in 2020 but ok Can you please post your source? We should see something soon after opening. Either site prep or teasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 7 minutes ago, KevM86 said: KI started teasing Banshee as soon as the park opened for the 2013 season. Which reinforces my point, right now the focus is on 2019. Once the park opens things change. Anyone saying the park should have "already been teasing teasing by now" isn't thinking in the best interests of the park. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevM86 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Which reinforces my point, right now the focus is on 2019. Once the park opens things change. Anyone saying the park should have "already been teasing teasing by now" isn't thinking in the best interests of the park. I agree. There is no reason to tease a 2020 project before the park even opens for the 2019 season. Just going from past projects I would think we will be seeing some teasers for the 2020 coaster not long after opening day. I can't remember when Banshees first footers started showing up but I thought it was around June or July. Sent from my Pixel 2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riptombraider Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 32 minutes ago, Maddog said: Which reinforces my point, right now the focus is on 2019. Once the park opens things change. Anyone saying the park should have "already been teasing teasing by now" isn't thinking in the best interests of the park. couldn't agree more. It would ruin the renovation of international street if before it was even unveiled they announce a coaster and turn everyones attention to that. They won't give any sort of hint until after the renovations that are be doing right now are revealed and they can use that to draw in people. Then they will start teasing and to stir up excitement and attendance. But for the next month all the talk will be on international street Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Cedar Fair loves teasing up coming attractions. I think midway through that season we will see subtle hints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubJester Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 KI officials watching the giga speculation on social media: I always think of this GIF when I read about speculation on a giga. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 That is perfect for this thread haha I'd go with this one...… haha...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlightTimberHawk Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Creed Bratton said: How do you know that? Zero proof so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, FlightTimberHawk said: Zero proof so far Ok well per TOS you would need to share your source if you make a claim like that. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUN&ONLY! Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, Maverick44 said: Ok well per TOS you would need to share your source if you make a claim like that. I know this is not necessarily any proof, but Tony Clark was quoted saying that the park is focused on going retro for the 2020 season, and they are not necessarily going to build some huge roller coaster https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wkyc.com/amp/article%3fsection=features&headline=cedar-point-planning-150th-anniversary-with-retro-ideas-for-2020-what-we-know-so-far&contentId=95-145df88a-e120-4f2e-b337-484d5a927c3e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I don't see that a proof because they did not rule out any coaster at all just an 800 foot tall coaster haha. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I believe we saw land clearing for Diamondback in late 2007 but I could be wrong on that. I would think the site should ramp up in activity here soon if we are getting a new coaster in 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoriell Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, FlightTimberHawk said: Zero proof so far And? Not saying that they're getting one by any means but who knows, a lot can happen in a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUN&ONLY! Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I see there being a chance of Cedar Point getting a new coaster in 2020, but like what Tony Clark said, I do not believe that it will be some record breaking monster so maybe like a nice GGI or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixohdieselrage Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 4 hours ago, beastfan11 said: Would you be able to confirm what part of the commencement specifically states that the potential project will occupy the Firehawk space? Thanks. Look at what has happened in the past. Plus, legal documents. Also, I never said it was confirmed to occupy that space. If you want to see more for yourself, go up in an airplane... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Most likely a Woodie due to them only really having Blue Streak. So a larger GCI could be awesome along the beach. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 I wise man once told me, pay attention to what they do, not what they say. Prior to or coinciding with Banshee, KI upgraded a restaurant, spruced up some rides and re themed Flight Deck to The Bat. Prior to Mystic Timbers, KI upgraded a restaurant (Potato Works), spruced up some rides (Water water canyon entrance) In recent seasons, they've added a restaurant, spruced up a ride (retracking part of The Racer) and added a ride (tiques) They've spent the last couple of seasons sprucing up and doing work around the area they expect high traffic for their next major installment, the kind of ride that will get people to come to KI for the first time since they came to ride Mysty, and they want that area of the park to look as fresh as possible for their new toy. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastfan11 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, sixohdieselrage said: Look at what has happened in the past. Plus, legal documents. Also, I never said it was confirmed to occupy that space. If you want to see more for yourself, go up in an airplane... Past additions aren’t going to tell us exactly what is going to happen. The removal of Firehawk was credited to the issues that have been discussed at great length. Using the legal documentation as proof or a reason to “laugh” doesn’t change the fact that there is no proof that anything is happening on that specific piece of land. It doesn’t mean it isn’t going to happen, but to make bold claims requires a bit of information to back it up. Right now there isn’t any. There is paperwork that suggests that a B&M project was in the works when it was filed. This could still be the case or something may have changed. We don’t know just like we have no idea of know what type of coaster could potentially be built. Or where it could be built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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