DiamondbackFanboy Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Hi, I'm a fairly new user. As far as Six Flags parks, there's always been pretty distinct tiers where the parks place. You have the high-tier parks like CP and Magic Mountain, the more mid-tier parks like Knotts and Six Flags Over Georgia, and then you have the lowest parks that barely get any additions. Kings Island has always felt like one of the highest ranking parks, but I honestly wonder if it's falling down on the totem pole. I feel like the park has been choosing quantity over quality in their latest additions, and Mystic Timbers has honestly been the highest quality out of all of their latest additions to the park. Orion was a really good ride, but nowhere as good as most people were expecting. We expected Orion to be like Fury, but it ended more like Leviathan. The next big addition was Adventure Port, but that just felt like some improvements to the Oktoberfest section of the park. Their most recent coaster, Snoopy's Soap Box Racers, along with the Camp Snoopy section of the park once again was just improvements to an area, although I don't think the Planet Snoopy section desperately needed it, since the area is already pretty high quality. In 2025, we got Soak City improvements, which while needed, felt kind of lackluster. The headline new attraction, RiverRacers, wasn't exactly an amazing water coaster, especially since it only features one real drop, and is more of a family ride if anything. In 2026 we're getting a "family thrill attraction", which I do not think will be a roller coaster, since I feel that if it were to be a coaster, it would have been specified on the article. Yes, four additions in four years is something that most parks don't get, but the actual quality of the rides isn't really that amazing. It honestly seems like KI is trying to become more of a family park, especially considering all of the recent additions aside from Orion are basically family rides or not very thrilling. I think that Kings Island's luck will run out eventually, and I don't think we'll be seeing anything in 2027. If we get a major thrill coaster in 2028, that would mean that there is an 8 year gap between major thrill coasters, and many small parks do better than that. Personally, I don't want KI to become more family-oriented, and I don't think it needs to either. Combine this with the merger, cutting costs, employment issues, and it makes me wonder if Kings Island will fall off and become more of a middle of the road park. I don't think it will fall to much, but it definitely feels like Kings Island is no longer in the top-tier. What are your thoughts on this? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion742 Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 6 hours ago, DiamondbackFanboy said: Hi, I'm a fairly new user. As far as Six Flags parks, there's always been pretty distinct tiers where the parks place. You have the high-tier parks like CP and Magic Mountain, the more mid-tier parks like Knotts and Six Flags Over Georgia, and then you have the lowest parks that barely get any additions. Kings Island has always felt like one of the highest ranking parks, but I honestly wonder if it's falling down on the totem pole. I feel like the park has been choosing quantity over quality in their latest additions, and Mystic Timbers has honestly been the highest quality out of all of their latest additions to the park. Orion was a really good ride, but nowhere as good as most people were expecting. We expected Orion to be like Fury, but it ended more like Leviathan. The next big addition was Adventure Port, but that just felt like some improvements to the Oktoberfest section of the park. Their most recent coaster, Snoopy's Soap Box Racers, along with the Camp Snoopy section of the park once again was just improvements to an area, although I don't think the Planet Snoopy section desperately needed it, since the area is already pretty high quality. In 2025, we got Soak City improvements, which while needed, felt kind of lackluster. The headline new attraction, RiverRacers, wasn't exactly an amazing water coaster, especially since it only features one real drop, and is more of a family ride if anything. In 2026 we're getting a "family thrill attraction", which I do not think will be a roller coaster, since I feel that if it were to be a coaster, it would have been specified on the article. Yes, four additions in four years is something that most parks don't get, but the actual quality of the rides isn't really that amazing. It honestly seems like KI is trying to become more of a family park, especially considering all of the recent additions aside from Orion are basically family rides or not very thrilling. I think that Kings Island's luck will run out eventually, and I don't think we'll be seeing anything in 2027. If we get a major thrill coaster in 2028, that would mean that there is an 8 year gap between major thrill coasters, and many small parks do better than that. Personally, I don't want KI to become more family-oriented, and I don't think it needs to either. Combine this with the merger, cutting costs, employment issues, and it makes me wonder if Kings Island will fall off and become more of a middle of the road park. I don't think it will fall to much, but it definitely feels like Kings Island is no longer in the top-tier. What are your thoughts on this? After visiting many other Cedar Fair/Six Flags parks I’ve come to the realization that I don’t give KI enough credit. It has a special feel that no other park in the chain can match. That’s why I don’t see it falling down the chain anytime soon no matter what Six Flags does to it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Losantiville Mining Co. Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Never say never, but also, this ^^^ If Six Flags continues to hold Kings Island down and only add cheaper attractions then there will definitely be a shift in some of the guests that continually visit the park. While they may hold Cedar Point up as their darling favorite child, Cincinnati locals enjoy Kings Island a lot more than other cities enjoy their respective parks. The chain doesn't hold it down terribly far but the downward slide has been felt. I do think Six Flags is a little too big for its own good. If Kings Island and some of the other parks were to be operated by a new company (like brand new, split off from SFEC) that treated them similarly to HFE (let a man dream), I think we'd see a lot more high-quality investment. Maybe not record-breaking, but higher quality nonetheless. Until that happens, Kings Island will continue to be treated like the successful middle child of Six Flags. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjniehaus Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 I think of it as Cedar Point is the favorite child - CP is that kid who has so much potential that they are the favorite but they in fact back it up. They are that kid who has always been good and continues to get special treatment. They are that child who is just bound to be on the Bengals and the parents sacrifice everything to make that happen. Kings Island is that middle child who is successful. The parents invest in this child because they have a good future and pay for their college but often neglect them in favor of their future Bengals player child Six Flags St Louis is that middle child who gets totally ignored but still manages to be halfway decent. They just kind of fend for themselves Then you have the totally neglected children (parks) that are in a world of hurt and trouble. So Kings Island is a middle child who gets some investment but we aren't the next Bengals player child who gets all the attention 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Yes, I do agree that Kings Island is still in a relatively higher standing in the Six.Flags chain. In my opinion, however, the quality has still gone down from where it was under Cedar Fair. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoan Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I was actually just watching a video on YouTube from one of the coaster enthusiasts ranking the top 10 parks in the US. Notably Holiday World was 10, Cedar Point was 2 and KI was first. The main comments made were that CP is clearly CF/SF first child and therefore favorite, but it has too many operational issues. KI has a lot of stuff to do, more than just coasters. Flat rides, shows, water rides, water park, one of the best kids areas. The main issue is that CF/SF, to me, always kind of acts annoyed that KI pulls the numbers it does. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2000 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Stoan said: I was actually just watching a video on YouTube from one of the coaster enthusiasts ranking the top 10 parks in the US. Notably Holiday World was 10, Cedar Point was 2 and KI was first. The main comments made were that CP is clearly CF/SF first child and therefore favorite, but it has too many operational issues. KI has a lot of stuff to do, more than just coasters. Flat rides, shows, water rides, water park, one of the best kids areas. The main issue is that CF/SF, to me, always kind of acts annoyed that KI pulls the numbers it does. There is a reason why the chain doesn't publish the per park attendance numbers.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I’ve been thinking a lot about Kings Island’s recent trajectory, and honestly, it feels like the park is starting to slip from its top-tier status. It’s not falling apart, but there’s a clear shift toward quantity over quality in recent additions. Mystic Timbers was probably the last enthusiast-level addition with strong theming and a layout that made sense. Orion was marketed as a major milestone, but it ended up feeling more like a tall hyper than a true giga, especially when compared to Fury 325. It was good - but not the game-changer many expected. Since then, additions have been modest. Adventure Port (2023) was more of a themed refresh than a major land. Snoopy’s Soap Box Racers (2024) wasn’t a bad ride, but didn’t add much beyond extending an already strong Planet Snoopy area. RiverRacers (2025), the new water ride, is more family-focused and doesn’t move the needle much - especially considering Coney Island’s waterpark closed. You’d think Kings Island would seize that opportunity to expand Soak City in a more impactful way. What really stands out is how little progress has been made during the off years. Yes, the pandemic set the industry back, but unlike the 2010s - when we saw clear pacing and direction - the current era feels aimless. Between Diamondback (2009) and Banshee (2014), we still saw steady investments: Planet Snoopy (2010) WindSeeker and Dinosaurs Alive (2011) Soak City rebrand (2012) 2013 was clearly a setup year for Banshee Post-Orion, the momentum just isn’t there: 2022 offered some nostalgia, but little forward movement Adventure Port felt last-minute Soap Box Racers felt more like a Peanuts brand tie-in than a park evolution RiverRacers is fine, but not bold Meanwhile, key areas sit untouched - Vortex’s land is still dormant, and the old Crypt building remains underused and unsightly. These are major, visible parts of the park that could anchor serious attractions. And that’s why the next major addition will be incredibly telling. I know a “family thrill attraction” is slated for 2026, but that could mean anything. If it’s something substantial - like a new log flume or dark ride in Rivertown - that at least signals awareness and intent. But if we don’t see a major coaster or thrill ride before 2030, it’ll be hard to believe Kings Island is still viewed as a flagship park. I don’t usually like to gauge corporate commitment solely by coaster installs, but look at what Cedar Fair did at Carowinds in 2015 with Fury 325. That wasn’t just a ride - it was a statement. Kings Island hasn’t had a moment like that in nearly a decade. Serving six major metro areas - Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, Indianapolis, Louisville, and Lexington - Kings Island can’t afford to drift into mediocrity. Competitors like Holiday World and Kentucky Kingdom are already more aggressive. A major investment at either could start pulling attendance from Indiana and Kentucky. And now, with the Cedar Fair - Six Flags merger, investment may shift to smaller parks needing improvement. That might help the chain overall - but it risks leaving Kings Island stagnant just when it needs to make a move. Bottom line: if 2028 isn’t a bold, defining year, it’s hard to see Kings Island maintaining its place among the elite. A new coaster, major Rivertown expansion, or unique anchor attraction is needed to reassert its status. Otherwise, the park risks being just another “mid-tier” in a very competitive region. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Put something a bit longer like this beauty in Vortex's plot and I think we would have an incredible heavy hitter that we desperately need. Not only would it be a smash hit, but like I have said many times over, this just feels like the right move and a proper nod to the legacy of Vortex. We are lacking inversions in our park and since I have heard nothing short of great reviews about how smooth/re-ridable Siren's Curse is, this seems like a good move for Cedar Flags to go with. Hey, I can dream right? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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