DonHelbig Posted Friday at 12:27 AM Posted Friday at 12:27 AM Would you like to see Kings Island and Cedar Point join the Six Flags parks with Grad Nites? https://themeparksbydon.com/six-flags-grad-nite-2026-dates/ Quote
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted Friday at 01:03 PM Posted Friday at 01:03 PM I don't see why not. KI and CP used to host grad nites I believe CP hosted one up until like 2017 or 2018 (correct me if I'm wrong). I don't remember the last time KI did. I think KI should host one. It would be a great opportunity for local schools around here. I'm just wondering if the park is scared to host it bc of past "incidents" involving school age kids making front page news at the park and they don't want that to potentially happen and ruin grad nite. Quote
robintodd Posted Friday at 01:36 PM Posted Friday at 01:36 PM The park is perfectly right to fear "incidents". Most of the negative press happened on Grad Nights. I was going to the park back then it was more about drinking and drugs in the parking lot in order to "enhance" enjoyment of the park. That being said I must admit the amount of that kind of activity seems significantly less nowadays. Best example I can site is the lack of "teen dance clubs", malls and other places teens would interact etc. Seems like teens are more into staying home on their devices rather than being out in public. Finally, in my opinion the LAST thing KI needs is an attendance driver. With the advent of social media and the number of vlogs/podcasts there is no shortage of "what's new at Kings Island" news without the park needing to do anything. Back in the 80s and 90s it was important to get the word out about Kings Island but nowadays, anyone who is interested in theme parks knows or can easily find out about KI. I don't understand why some people complain about how crowded the park is by "giving away the gate" yet still want to see more marketing to drive attendance at an already busy park. Does it really make sense to market a park and when people come from out of the area and find the park so crowded that it affects their experience in a negative way. KI is unique in that not only is it in the middle of a populated area but it's a wealthier area than most parks are surrounded by (I notice this by noticing the neighborhoods and houses when driving to KI vs CP). I still maintain the park could not add anything new for 2-4 years and NOT see a drop in attendance. If they decide to up the price of season passes then it may make sense to market the park once attendance is an issue but until that time they will be wiser to spend money keeping up with the people in the park rather than attacting more people to an already crowded park. Quote
Losantiville Mining Co. Posted Saturday at 08:31 AM Posted Saturday at 08:31 AM I don't agree with the statements on the park not needing more attendance at all. While the park may get busy more often than not, we live in a world where consistent additions and upgrades are almost required to keep a place like Kings Island popular. Without that year-after-year constant investment I'd start to think we were becoming more like Dorney Park or Kings Dominion than Cedar Point and Carowinds. We'll see more on how that might turn out after this year if Cedar Point does indeed finally take a year off from additions. As for bringing back Grad Nite, I think it'd be a good thing to try out again. Kings Island has gone through so much change since its last Grad Nite event and the habits of high school seniors has also changed. The park also has a stronger security presence, so if anything starts up there is a better chance of catching it before it's too late. This would also only take up 1-2 nights each year, therefore not adding to the number of people in the park during the day. Any additional guests would likely be those who would already come with their school during a standard park field trip. I personally went on the trip during my senior year of high school and had to contend with all of the other seniors in addition to all of the families who were already at the park for the day. If anything, adding a Grad Nite would take guests out of the park and make it less busy during the day in exchange for it being closed early for a special event one night per year. It would be amazing if we could also get one or two other one-night special events each year to help bring in more money for the park. Quote
Orion-XL200 Posted Sunday at 05:15 AM Posted Sunday at 05:15 AM Working in school systems, I can say, the grad classes of this world and time, can't handle it, at least here in Ohio. 1 Quote
KIfan73 Posted Sunday at 11:50 PM Posted Sunday at 11:50 PM I didn’t go to grad nite when I was a senior. I can still remember seeing my classmates getting “ready” for it by packing their trunks with beer for the trip. Fast forward a few years and I chaperoned at grad nite very early in my teaching career. Oh my. I understand why they got away from it. Quote
KI Guy Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago On 1/23/2026 at 8:36 AM, robintodd said: I still maintain the park could not add anything new for 2-4 years and NOT see a drop in attendance. If they decide to up the price of season passes then it may make sense to market the park once attendance is an issue but until that time they will be wiser to spend money keeping up with the people in the park rather than attacting more people to an already crowded park. That may be the case we really can't know for sure but increasing attendance is not the only consideration. They have to add just to maintain the park. Every attraction in the park with the exception of wood coasters has a finite lifespan. Even if everything were to last as long as Vortex that the rides go away in these respective years: Flight of Fear 2028 Invertigo 2031 Woodstock's Air Rail 2033 Queen City Stunt Coaster 2035 Diamondback 2041 To just maintain replacement rate they are going to have to up the installations unless they can milk these rides for more than 32 years... Good luck with that. Quote
robintodd Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 15 minutes ago, KI Guy said: That may be the case we really can't know for sure but increasing attendance is not the only consideration. They have to add just to maintain the park. Every attraction in the park with the exception of wood coasters has a finite lifespan. Even if everything were to last as long as Vortex that the rides go away in these respective years: Flight of Fear 2028 Invertigo 2031 Woodstock's Air Rail 2033 Queen City Stunt Coaster 2035 Diamondback 2041 To just maintain replacement rate they are going to have to up the installations unless they can milk these rides for more than 32 years... Good luck with that. I didn't say they never have to add another roller coaster, my statement was they could not adding anything new in 2- 4 years. Only Flight of Fear would fall in that timeframe. With it being an indoor coaster out of the elements it's life could be longer than other metal costers. Remember Corkscrew at Cedar Point is still operating after 49 years (built 1976). It has been shown that metal coasters can have re-tracking done such as Fury 325 a couple years ago. According to chatgpt: Common operational lifespan for a medium-sized steel coaster is often around 30–40 years before major refurbishment, retracking, or retirement becomes economically likely for a park. Some parks invest in continuous maintenance and retracking, allowing coasters to operate well beyond that range (50+ years) if they remain popular and structurally sound. Interestingly enough the oldest operating all steel coaster is Little Dipper at Memphis Kiddie Park in Ohio (yes a kiddie coaster) was made in 1952. Remember we had Firehawk and Vortex at one time. Both "large" coasters. The only replacement was Orion. People still keep coming. It's not all about coasters especially as KI tries to become more family friendly. That being said, I would expect a new coaster in 2028 or 2029 at the old Vortex spot. Quote
KI Guy Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago ^ You may have missed my point which was that there are longer term effects when not investing. They may not see a drop in attendance those 2 – 4 years, but in the long-term the park can start to suffer. Full retracking/refurbishment of steel coasters is exceedingly rare. I can only think of four occurrences off the top of my head. Usually by the time a steel coaster needs retracking it is no longer popular enough to justify a very expensive retrack. There may end up being a longer life for B&Ms and Intimins vs the old Arrows, but that is an unknown at this point. The 8 or 9 year gap between coasters you lay out is just not sustainable if Kings Island is to remain the Kings Island we grew up with. Note that I do recognize the unusual circumstances the park finds itself in right now so this could be understood by the park with this being a one-off. 2 Quote
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