TheKlockster Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Ohio Revised Code § 1711.551. Duty of rider to heed warnings and directions and avoid unsafe behavior. (A) No rider shall fail to do any of the following: (1) Heed all written warnings and directions that require a person to meet certain conditions or to refrain from certain actions regarding an amusement ride, as determined by rule by the director of agriculture; (2) Refrain from behaving or acting in any manner that may cause injury or contribute to injuring himself or other people while occupying an amusement ride. Now according to what I read on Pointbuzz - it is illegal in Ohio for a rider to have their hands up on a coaster (if the park says you have to keep them down). PKI does direct you to "keep hands and arms inside the vehicle at all times". So for all you coaster fanboys out there - no more hands free rides! This is the same law that says that On Ride Photography is illegal. And before anyone says anything - I FOUND IT! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Nemo Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 Oh no!! Where is the humanity!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortexdemon05 Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 whats the site u found it Adam Klocke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 "Please keep hands and arms inside the vehicle at all times.' When your hands are up, they are in the car, outside of the car is refering to the sides and front(That is how I and most operators see it). How many guest actually keep their hands down, it is a coaster custom to put your hands up. There is no harm in it neither, if they try to enforce that rule, they won't have many if any guests in the park. On-ride photography is more dangerous than hands up. Your hands can't go flying off like a camera can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted February 14, 2006 Author Share Posted February 14, 2006 The park rules ask that you keep them down. Now I know that at Cedar Point - hands up is forbidden. So maybe hands down isnt explicitly stated. I know for a fact that it is on Beast however... And if they say you must keep your hands down - then putting them up is a misdemeanor. Just as bad a crime as on ride video... Now that being said - when we did the National Geographic Shoot - we asked if we had to ride with hands down or if we could put them up - and they said it didn't matter. So maybe it isn't an actual park rule that they have to be down and holding onto the handle bar. I just know that "hands arms and legs must be inside the vehicle at all times". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoker8388 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 It's also illegal to go over 65mph on the highways, 66mph and you're breaking the law. We see how many people strictly obey that law, the same goes for hands up on roller coasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I never been yelled at for putting my hands up on any coaster even at Cedar Point. The desginers make the cleanance for the coaster high enough were riders can put thier hands up with out any problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 Yeah I understand it is broken so often it won't be enforced. Like you won't even get pulled over for 70. I got passed by a cop and I was doing like 72. I just think it is interesting that it is against the law. Now POV most definately will be enforced... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 flightoffear1996, persons with even average height CAN hit the tunnel walls on Beast with their hands...and many have, sadly, proven this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPGUN1993 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 On the recar photo shot we had to keep our hand down . But after we passed the zepher I put my hands up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FOF/Z 4-ever Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 On the recar photo shot we had to keep our hand down . But after we passed the zepher I put my hands up You go to that wild side of yours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cincyboy0830 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I know I find it hard to make myself put my hands up....especially on rides like Flight of Fear and Millennium Force at Cedar Point-them overbanked turns make me wanna keep my hands down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I have only been told to put my hands down once, OddCoaster-March 19th, 2005. They even stopped the ride, it had to be a newbie. I have never saw a sign saying "hands down" at any park, it is on the auto-spiel for Top Thrill Dragster and Hypersonic XLC. I have hit my hands on a tree branch at Carowinds on Goldrusher several times but never the tunnel or supports. I have my hands on every coaster that doesn't have OTSR. The parks advertise coasters with people that have their hands up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasper Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I put my hands up on any coaster i ride. I even put them up on TTD the first time i rode it. So just saying i will keep leaving them up. even though i might get caught iut will be wworth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 It's people who put their hands up during launch on coasters like TTD that have caused restraint modifications on rides like Revolution at Six Flags Magic Mountain and Hypersonic at Paramount's Kings Dominion. The parks and ride manufacturers have had to do this to protect riders from themselves. Do the words possible shoulder separation mean ANYTHING to you? Sigh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think "Keep your hannds inside the car" is referring to not reaching out and touching things on the sides. If it really were the law, they'd probably enforce it more. Simply the liablity would be worth them yelling at you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cewldre Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I do know that whoever mentioned people hitting their hands on The Beast, that's true. However, I have never met anyone who did it on accident. Yes, you heard me right, I have never heard of anyone do it on accident. I have had several ACErs ask where first aid was because they wanted to touch their hands on The Beasts tunnel during the final helix. So, just be smart about it and don't get yourself hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeLorean Rider Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 You know, if you listen to the spiel on the second beast lift hill it says explicitly: "caution, please keep your hands down and inside the car, please remain seated at all times, thank you" I dont think there is any question of a grey area in that spiel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Yes, I know for a fact that hands can touch the tunnel in the final helix of The Beast. Back about 8 years ago I had my hands up when I entered that part of the ride. Lets just say that my hand briefly grazed the tunnel. Nothing serious, just my hand stung a little. From that day on, I never raise my hands up above headrest height, and normally hold on to the black hand bar in that part. Although I am surprised more people don`t get their hands scratched up from hitting the tunnel. There are always tons of people who hold up there hands before going into that tunnel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I scared my hands on the tunnel too last season. It was a night ride and even though I knew the tunnel was coming I didn't think anything would happen cause nothing did about 1000 times rides before it. It was really just a black and blue finger and that was about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 "Please keep hands and arms inside the vehicle at all times.' When your hands are up, they are in the car, outside of the car is refering to the sides and front(That is how I and most operators see it Actually, that is wrong. Keeping your hands INSIDE the car does not mean in the air, which is considered outside the car. It is all lawyer talk and leaves many gray areas, but if you were to get hurt, that arguement would never work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortexdemon05 Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 i think the main idea is some people have longer arms than others and if the coaster goes underground the tunnels can possably rip them off with the amount of force the coaster applys. i some what agree but most people would put there hands down but what if they get distracted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I could probably easily touch the tunnel on The Beast if I wanted to. I always make sure I put them down in the tunnels because I obvioulsy don't want a trip to the ER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kong-Fu-Guy Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 O NOES!! I raised my hands up on The Beastie!!! ahhh im gona get thrown in jail!! OMG I also did it on the Flight of Fear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomerJay Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I've never been prevented from putting my hands up at Cedar Point. Not even on the big rides, like Millenium Force or Dragster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ Kinda Guy Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 You guys should get out more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 Well, a slight aside to the topic at hand. I find it funny that there are signs in Face Off`s station claiming to "Keep your arms and legs inside the car at all times." There is no real "car" in which to put your legs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKlockster Posted February 15, 2006 Author Share Posted February 15, 2006 Yes - but if you put Top Guns trains on it instead of Face Off trains on it - it would have cars... So you can still keep your hand and feet within the car. And yeah - we all need to get out more... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tubaman Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 The park rules ask that you keep them down. Now I know that at Cedar Point - hands up is forbidden. So maybe hands down isnt explicitly stated. I know for a fact that it is on Beast however... Is hight-fiving a guy in the other train on Gemini illegal? 'cause I have... 1 point for disregarding my personal safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted February 15, 2006 Share Posted February 15, 2006 I think they only mean on the launch on Dragster. In rides general knowledge or level 1 training they never ever mention anything about making sure hands are down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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