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^Everyone takes their clothes off and runs?

The problem is, Kings Island's 'Gold Passes include Halloween Haunt" is just too good of a deal. My opinion is that an up-charge ticket for Halloween Haunt and Halloween Haunt ONLY should be created. I still think daytime fun on Saturdays and Sundays should be included until say 5:30. Then everybody clears out and they re-open shortly later for just Halloween Haunt people. Tickets should be discounted to all season pass holders, but not free. There should also be an option to add on a Haunt Season to pass to a Gold or Platinum. This way they can make even more money then they already do, and could put more effort and money into the haunted attractions.

If you sat up there three hours during the latest Knott's incident, you'd still have had about 40 more minutes to wait. Imagine all the things going through your mind at three hours, as you wouldn't know for sure how much longer it may be...ten minutes? Three more hours? All while nervously hoping for a safe rescue, perhaps sitting embarrassed in a puddle or worse, having children on the ground perhaps, missed a ride home from the park or a wedding or even a funeral...all manner of things. Imagine the pacts with the Almighty. Lord, if I get down from here safely, I'll....

Disclaimer: i am usually 99% tongue-in-cheek on this site and very rarely take a serious counter-point to someone's view- and I don't mean to make an issue of this but wanted to take a moment to chime in on this. If a ride such as WS were to stall out at 300'... there has to be a quicker way to bring them down to earth. Personally I have been on the ride 3-4 times this year- enjoy the ride (no my favorite, but a decent ride). My digestive system is such that if I were "trapped" in a situation and not able to get out for 3 hours... there'd be problems. I've had these problems most of my 39 year life and have learned to manage them- 3 hours is outside my manageable time frame. So, as to say, people who may have issue with the length of time getting down aren't sissies as stated. I know that you're probably not looking at it from this perspective- but this issue, while probably doesn't affect the overall "safety" of the ride, it will affect my decision making process when determining "if" I will ride again. Hopefully their "investigation" goes into contingency plans of how to bring the gondola down quicker- or I may have possibly taken my last ride on WS. Just thoughts from the balcony.

Don is like please!! I just want to forget it was ever here!!

Can't wait to use my free Skyflyer and Slingshot rides this Sunday, as well as the front of the line pass tomorrow. All I have to say is a thank you to Kings Island. The program was great for it being a prototype, hope to see some other ideas expanded upon next year.

Who says ticket and season pass processing construction gives the kennel a free ride? To reference the example you are so fond using, when the GR offices were remodeled, what happened to the rest of the merchandise shops in the building? Nothing.

Doesn't matter to me. I don't drink soda.

But couldn't it be argued, that the kennel still serves its purpose with the materials it has now? "Why fix what isn't broke" , to quote what you said in another thread.

According to you, the kennel is too outdated and should get a facelift because it is just over a decade old? I have news for you; Kings Island's front gate has looked the same since 1973. First impressions are everything, so why shouldn't the front gate get a much more attractive look? Dogs don't seem to care about aesthetics as much as humans, anyways.

This is why I am in favor of teachers being permitted to have a conceal carry permit with extensive training by police in the use of the firearm. As it is now, it might have signs stating that it is a "no firearm" facility, it only means the intruder has a clear access to do harm until the time police do arrive, which would be too late for the ones shot and or killed. It is not like you go into a firearm store and buy a handgun and put it on your person and then think it will be ok. You have to have the approved training in its use and continued practice at the weapon range. I still refuse to call a weapon as a "gun" ever since I took my combat basic training at Fort Jackson and our DI would get in our face if we ever called it a "gun." As for Kings Island, we do have our own police that are armed and they are stationed at the front gate entrance and other places in the park, along with assistance from Mason PD on crowded days. I know some people would be up in arms over having teachers armed but it is better than having students hauled out in body bags.

So it's alright if the pet care center gets remodeled, but not the front gate?

I am really shocked they would advise students to this. Not very responsible on the schools part. Doing this may trigger someone to attack or open fire on such students. My motto. "Get the hell out of there any means possible" yes that include going through glass windows. I would rather take my chances with safety glass than a bullet.

I would just hide in one of the stores.

If Kings Island had maintained their original premise of being a true resort area, an entry way that you'd drive under once you reached Kings Island Drive would have been neat.

This summer, my wife, sister in law, and nephew saw the Alonzo show. It was most def worth it. I hope he comes back next year. I also hope KI gets more of these shows. I love the fun for the family atmosphere.

SOB was built. Some would argue that it was not safe. It sent how many people to the hospital, again?

The swings rely on centripital force to swing outwards away from the tower. Because they were stopped on the tower, there is no outward force exerted on the swings, therefore they were dangling vertically.

Age does not constitute maturity. Some adults act worse than the eleven year olds you mentioned (ranging from smoking on rides to picking fights)

What kind of name is Coast Rider? In my opinion, it sounds horrible.

Honestly, the detectors weren't doing anything whether they were on or not. The only thing detectors do is make worried people feel safer. Many schools have many different entrances. Even if there was one entrance that entered through an office do you really think that is going to stop a crazed student with a gun? My high school was one of the ones that said to sit in the corner with the lights off until help arrives. Little did they know that if a real emergency did happen I was getting my girlfriend and I the hell out of the building.

Was hoping it went the other way but oh well. I'll just keep drinking water or when I want something different i'll choose one of those alcoholic beverages, even though 8 bucks for a beer is ridiculous in my mind it seems a better value than 5 bucks for a Coke.

I don't know for sure about those perks in particular, but we have used some of our perks (free funnel cake, etc.) during Haunt. You could call the park to be safe, but I imagine those perks are still valid/

^ All those footers look like a graveyard.

They have nothing to gain by advertising their coasters to someone who's already at the park on their way in since the coasters are included with admission. They do have something to gain by upselling you to an experience that is not included with admission.

You guys know he's just throwing around ideas and sharing his art, right? He's not actually going to change the entrance.

They should exchange their WindSeekers for some Giant Wheels. I think a ferris wheel would be a nice addition.

I enjoy different seasons of the year and i had my share of riding with flip-flops this year,im ready to ride in jeans and a jacket in the nice comfortable weather,hope the rain hits hard and then is gone with the crowds!

That Cowboy dude scared the crap out of me all night long!

When I lived up and went to Kent I drove down to Geuga Lake to snap pictures. I took these photos in 2010 with just a standard Point and Shoot http://www.flickr.com/photos/49728734@N02/archives/date-posted/2010/04/29/ I didnt break into the park, just pictures you can get from public land around the park. The pictures of the big dipper were from the screen in front. I didnt venture to take any pictures on private property. But sad to drive around the park and see remnants of what once was...

But, since I don't have a 2012 pass, a lot of good that does me now. I will remember what parks made my guest experience easy and enjoyable, and spend much of next summer on great adventures in Six Flags America.

Seems to me there's a lot of jumping to conclusions here. The investigation is not yet complete. The company will evaluate alternatives and make a safe, prudent decision. These things take time.

Have you looked at the weather report? High of 52 Sat and Sun partly cloudy That is colder than usual for the last weekend. It will be dead. Yes, I looked at the weather before I posted. 52 degrees is great weather, at least to me.

NO NOT UNDER AE! That's part of the mystique. For most of the ride you can't see the path. (Until a wild FOF appears I spose)

I don't know why the Barbara Streisand song is as funny as it is to me, but it is. Suddenly, I regret never having seen the Ed Alonzo show this summer... EDIT: Turns out you can make your own version of Barbara Streisand. Click. (I'm going to ignore the fact that they spell it "Barbra"... It's the darnest thing.) EDIT again: Turns out it actually is spelled Barbra. MOVING ON.

First point, I think it was foolish to buy so many prototypes without knowing how they would react. Next point, I don't agree with the humidity theory, although it was a good thought. That doesn't hold up at Knotts where there is practically none year round. Last point, major modification on all of them to prevent the sway and the amount of down time they have had and delayed opening. I've said this before, my last ride on the one at KI was a bit unnerving-it was windy and the thing didn't want to come down. I honestly thought we were gonna get stuck. Perhaps its my age and such, but I'm not sure I will be getting back on if it does reopen. I want to hear a reasonable mechanical explanation for this and unless I'm comfortable and it makes sense, I will not be getting back on it.

On Saturday, Oct 20th IBEW_Sparky and I left Indy around 4AM to head up to Cedar Point. We were attending the GOCC/ACE event Shocktoberfest. On Saturday we were going to be filming an episode of Insane Coaster Wars on Magnum XL200. It was a very cold and dreary day, but we had a good time fiilming. At 3:45 we checked in to walk through Eden Musee's haunted house. (Like Madame Fatale's Cavern of Terror at KI) Here are some pics of the house with the lights on. I got some good pics of Mean Streak while we were waiting to go into Eden Musee. At this point in the day it was around 5:00 P.M and the park was getting very busy. So we tooks some pics in the park. A stream that we had not ever seen before. Mllie pics! At 5:30 this is what the queue looked like while we tooks a relaxing ride on the train. Full queue! Haunt props! Corkscrew from the bumper cars queue! We ended up heading to the hotel about 9 PM to get some rest for day 2, which was the actual event day. Day 2: On Sunday we got up about 7:30am to be at the park by 9am to film another Insane Coaster Wars on Maverick. At 10:00 AM we had ERT on Millie for the event. After our ride on Maverick we headed towards Millie for the ERT. We got about 6 or 7 rides in during our Ert and about 1/2 hr of normal ERT. At 10:30 we headed back to Maverick to get a ride in before the park opened. After another great ride on Maverick we headed towards Mean Streak and got a few rides on it before the GP made it to the back of the park. We then headed to Dragster to get a ride in before lunch. We got on in about 1/2 hr. This was my best ride on it, since this was my third ride. I now knew what to expect and was able to relax and enjoy the ride. We then had lunch provided at the Coral Courtyard. After a good lunch we have a behind the scenes tour of Cut Throat Cove, an outside maze. Here are some pictures of the maze.... A few fellow coaster enthusiasts Annie from Marketing who was leading the tour. More pics to come!

I bet you could put almost anyone's name in instead of "Barbara Streisand".

AND highlights just how much the guest has spent at the park...which may not at all be a good thing. $4 soft drinks add up quickly.

I've thought about that too, but I think having the actual scale takes away from some of the excitement of checking the web site.

So you may have noticed that we were under Maverick for the walk through of Cut Throat Cove, so we also got some great pics of Maverick as well. Track Traveling through the roll First Drop: First turn after the second launch. This was a hard picture to get with the speeds of the train and using a cell phone camera! Up next was the construction tour of Gatekeeper! Pics from tour! Crane ready for putting in track! All that remains of Disaster Transport, the transformers. These are still needed for service so they will not be removed until after the season ends by the power company! Annie explaining plans for the new ride. Footers ready for pouring! Electrician Larry explains about the power coming into the park. He also states the main entrance will be leveled and rebuilt about 10 ft closer to the parking lot than where it is today. Station location! The footer behind the crane in where the first drop will be. Parking lot construction: At this point it was about 5:30 and we had a 5 hr drive ahead of us. So we headed out to make our drive to Indy! I just found one more pic I got of a Wildcat car! Hope you enjoyed the PTR!

well an improvement could be a simple, chart stating what you get for how much you spend or the number of visits made. Still can had bonus days or special double secret surprise bonuses. With it being early in the program its understandable that things may change but if its to be improved it needs to have a set number for each level. 100 points at krogers gets you 10 cents in gas (or something).

Now, if a KD Platinum Pass just worked at Carowinds OR could be renewed online....

I think the Instant Rewards were at random. One day in June I had a day where everything I bought gave me six rewards... probably a glitch. It was weird, but I totally went with it. haha

Clint Eastwood does to random furniture!

Would you also want Beast, Flight of Fear, Diamondback, etc., gone? Change is inevitable. The park that doesn't change eventually shuts. Forever.

the first bit can be answered simply, block section. FD has always (in my memory) crawled up the lift hill, till about mid way up the lift. Sort of like The Beast. All about blocks. For the second bit; if I remember correctly Terpy once, twice, thrice even, spoke that parts can always be ordered. Trust me, I know about blocking, as a former ride op at KI, the lift literally was slow as molasses with the 1 train op compared to the 2 train op that is usually going on. However, my original point was that the lift hardly started before the train was all the way on the lift chain. It wasn't like the train got on the lift and then slowed down, it was more of the kicker wheels were sending the train out faster than the chain could get started for the journey upward. It just seemed odd to me that the lift speed didn't pick up until the train was fully on the lift and only having one train operating. FD has 3 blocks, Block A being the lift, Block B being the Brakes and Block C being the station. If both Block B and C were open (which they were) the lift should be at normal speed, as it's not waiting for the block to clear. However, the lift wasn't even at "normal speed" until the train was 3/4 of the way up, at 3/4ths of the way up, something kept squeaking as I stated in my last post fairly loud and long. I've ridden FD hundreds to thousands of times and have never heard or experienced that noise. Who's gonna make them though? I've heard rumblings that S&S Arrow do not make parts for Suspended coasters anymore on a couple other sites. Taking it with a grain of salt, but what happens when they stop? TombRaiderTy I totally forgot about Ninja at SFMM, mainly because I've never ridden it, so yes...4 on the North American continent haha. Don't get me wrong folks, I'd be devastated if Flight Deck left...but I am just saying I don't see it around for much more than 5 years. Just observations.

The entrance is dated, but leave it be. Newer does not always mean better.

Just for comparison, here's a proper Soak City theme overlay: The changes here include: Flattening out the entry archways, replacing the shingles with a tin roof, changing to traditional rooflines on the gabled dormers, and adding a "light house" topper (plus adding all the other generic details you see in the new Soak City gate, like basic eave supports and flat column mouldings). I strongly prefer the previous version I posted, but this one would at least match the other gate. See a larger version of this color rendering + the original line art (and again, the full set of this process). Orthogonal view of the entryway coming up next.

OK, here's the latest elevation rendering: This is my personal favorite of the quick color tests I did. You can see the others here: Initial test Optional version (resembling the new Soak City gate) Again, you can review the whole process in my Blue Sky: Kings Island image set. One more final sketch regarding the front gate coming soon.