King Ding Dong

I definitely would not recommend bringing your lawn mower to KI and mowing the grass. That very well may result in a ban. Certainly not while wearing an N95 mask (that may upset @BeeastFarmer), but if you must a cloth mask should work fine. Being a bit selective and disingenuous in your story telling today, eh BJ?

I have not seen a new statement however going back to their old statements they said something to the effect of when the parks open you will need to be “current” on your payments in order to use the pass. Since the payments were paused they will just continue where they left off and as long as your payment processes you will be “current”. Here is where it gets a little tricky with Platinum Passes. Canada’s Wonderland is my Home Park this year and there is no announced opening date and my payments were paused (albeit about a month after the US parks paused). So can I use it at CP and KI while the payments are still paused? I assume so, I am current and if they wanted to process the last 2 payments they would go through. In hindsight I should have made manual payments in April and May as the exchange rate was even more favorable than it was before and has since crept back to its historical average. I probably will get those last two payments in soon just in case things go south and wipe out the my savings by purchasing through CW.

Because the primary purpose of the face masks in this setting (non-surgical) is not to protect the wearer but to act is a partial barrier of one's own aerosol exhaust. Not perfect by any stretch but any barrier will reduce to some degree the distance some of the aerosol travels. In this context contamination is not a large factor. If one chooses to wear a more sophisticated mask to help protect them from others exhaust they may do so and follow additional protocols. As @BeeastFarmer will point out those more medical grade masks such as N95s are still in short supply and should be reserved for the health care industry. That is true. We do know that viral load is a major factor in transmission, so one instance of passing by a symptomatic or presymptomatic person even if they are yelling, singing or breathing heavily is probably low. However what we do not know at this point is how multiple low viral load exposures stack over time. Is it cumulative over say a 6 hour period where you may pass the same person several times or possibly dozens of shedding presymptomatics? Scientists are working on that answer but without using human lab rats, which would be unethical, that is a difficult thing to study. Nearly every time I have been to the park there is always that "one person" that stands out for some reason, may be their incredible height, or some outrageous clothes they wear, whatever. In a typical day at the park I may pass by that person 10-15 times, that I notice. So those people that are subject matter experts on this recommend we wear some kind of face cover to mitigate to some degree that risk at this point in time.

While I like to entertain thought experiments and Covid will likely still be here that is a long time away and our knowledge base will be vastly expanded by that point. We don’t even know if acquired immunity is a thing or how long it might last.

Probably means the temperature scan tents.

You can probably find a list on Defunctland.

Not even 1% if you use confirmed cases, with unconfirmed we won’t know until antibody tests become widely available and free if they ever materialize in numbers.

Allergies. I tried it years ago with N95s, it worked but was not pleasant. It was a bad allergy season and I gave up and paid a neighbor kid to mow for me. For those that have a medical issue with masks the park already has a solution for that. The No Boo Necklace. Everyone else gets tazzed.* *Calm down @spooky21 It is called satire.

Yeah, people generally sleep in houses and given we can not pinpoint an exact moment of transmission finding a group of people that have stayed together and completely outside (and didn’t make out) for several days would be a real challenge. Kind of sounds like a Reality TV show.

That could be. To bad we didn’t have adequate Covid testing early on like so many other countries like South Korea did. We still don’t in many areas. Well @bjcolglazier I hope it works out for you in Indiana, doesn’t seem like much of a plan however. I don’t know what we are doing in Ohio yet. By the way did @Hawaiian Coasters 325 win the prize? What is the latest from Mitch on your Soviet Re-education Center?

Still not sure what the flu numbers have to do with Covid-19 but yes I agree the peak number of Covid hospitalizations was not predicted perfectly.

80% with vaccine or acquired immunity is the number I see most often, less frequently 70%. I do not believe acquired immunity has been definitively established with this virus yet, it is assumed. Maybe there is some evidence I have not seen yet.

I agree we should have, while also acknowledging Ohio was one of the first states to take any action at all. I am still confused by the article you cited though, are you saying if we should have locked down in early January?

Very true, statistical models very rarely provide perfect results. They are almost always wrong to some degree. I am a bit confused on the article you linked that reports the virus was here on Jan 2nd. What is your point by citing that?

What were the correct models?

I think you misread my post. I said nothing about DeWine or Acton. I simply responded to Spooky that OH never hit the 5K projection due to the actions that were taken. I have never defended DeWine he is clearly messing up this reopening just as bad or worse than he handled the shutdown. Though I maintain doing something was better than doing nothing.

So is your point OH shouldn’t have done anything at all or they it was done imperfectly?

We had a lockdown, thus OH never hit 5k per day or worse. Funny how that works.

From reports in most cases they can and will. Surely depends on how snug the fit is, hats can stay on, they often fly off as well. My thought is it could be a problem when you turn your head sideways in some manner like looking over at your ride partner and the wind gets between your face and the mask. At 90+mph that might be a problem, but will depend on the mask design. Motorcyclists frequently tie a bandana on their face and do not have issues. As said towards the begining of this thread for a pre-visit test when someone else is driving stick your head out the window on the highway.

Those may have been proofs or just initial runs.

I like to think most of it comes from out of state but sometimes I wonder.

I don’t know Kyle, even pre-2020 I didn’t have to look very hard to see a lot of stupidity at KI.

Good thing coasters and amusement parks in general have nothing to do with technology as well.

And yet you are here. Curious.

Will they be wearing masks?