Gordon Bombay

@BoddaH1994, I agree with your assessment 100%. Thought this video was interesting, because you and I had a similar conversation in person a few weeks back. As someone who has been away from the industry for bit now, the perception I seemed to be getting from these boards and the occasional publication was that KI would be in the "purgatory" category, but by my own rough assessment—that just doesn't seem true. I would say it certainly falls into the top tier category, but for reasons other than roller coaster investment. Like you said, each park receives investment based on a multitude of factors. The video makes an interesting case about potential markets, but briefly skims over entertainment dollar competition in each market. I'm also curious where the stats come from on land percentage used. For example: KI has "a lot" of land, but "a lot" of that land isn't exactly flat or easy to access/develop. Ultimately, I think a lot of amusement park fans often mis-judge a large roller coaster as being more than it really is. The economics, marketing, and management of amusement parks (both large and small) is not similar to Roller Coaster Tyconn (1, 2, 3, or Classic). That game is a good place to start, though. ;-) Also: I watched this video last night and went down a rabbit hole of others on amusement parks/random other topics. Been watching a lot of YouTube lately as I move away from Netflix and Hulu. There's some great content out there, but I caution people to take it all with a grain of salt. Just because content is free or made by like-minded coaster fans (or fans of any subject), doesn't mean it's entirely accurate, no matter how good the production value is.

This is 100% correct. Except for The Crypt. I hated that ride. Couldn't have been happier to leave it behind.

Thanks! I remember the entrance itself (and that sign!), but not much beyond that. Appreciate you jogging my memory, Gator. Now, if anyone knows of some photographs... *cough* @TombraiderTy *cough*

I've been racking my brain trying to remember the queue line for King Cobra. Anyone have any photographs of it or the station? I've seen the views from the tower and such, but I'm still trying to remember that queue and iconic station... IIRC: the queue line was at the center of the ride, kind of cramped, very jungle theme, lots of CRT televisions and you went up stairs into the station? The station had that operator booth above everything, looking down?

It would be bad. The end.

Ooooooff. It's a joke, friend. From the days of the footing/footer debate raging across these hallowed forums. Hopefully when this thing opens, a couple people on this site take a few laps and mellow out. The ride should be silky smooth since it's built atop some well-poured footings.

It's FoOtInGz

I'm gonna guess Ghoster Coaster is next. Big if true. Research partner: Caripro Results: not great

darnit. You've clearly got the right stuff, but I sure don't. Edit: Want to be clear that I didn't type "darnit."

Some might believe that these are just generic teasers filled with nonsense that's meant to misdirect people, that all these "teasers" are really alluding to the general theme of "X-Base," "government testing," "etc." All of it playing into the theme you've seen in the blueprints. Pretty sure I cracked the code, though. The "O" is pronounced "Oh." After enough posters go up, you'll get... "O, O, O, Oh, O..... O, O, Oh, O..... O, O, O, Oh, O.... The Right Stuff.," Not only is that an incredible song by Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, but The Right Stuff is a space themed movie. Edit: Nevermind, The Right Stuff is owned by Warner Brothers so that's not it. Sorry, guys.

Yes.

Are these even your photographs/is he even asking for the proper person to credit?

No doubt, just curious if I was understanding it properly.

Question regarding the perception of the “height:” if I’ve understood this thread correctly, the top of the lift measured to the ground it sits above comes in at “296 ft,” correct? And the drop, by virtue of plunging into a ravine, technically comes in at “301 ft” right? If I got that right—and you were to build out this coaster on a completely flat and level plane of earth, wouldn’t that technically make the ride a “giga” in that it would be over 300 ft tall? I know the “giga” and “hyper” terms are arbitrary, just trying to think how the ride may be promoted. In that above scenario, could you technically state that the ride is 300 or 300+ feet tall?

Gotta pay the piper if you want exclusive, lights-on tours of Wolfpack. I know you wouldn't offer up any alternatives names for the Halloween Haunt anyways.

Kings Island doesn’t get to dictate what happens in “its” airspace (no matter how much they really, really want to believe they do), but the FAA does. It’s been posted here before, but there are rules and restrictions imposed by the FAA for flying a drone over areas where people are gathered. What those entail and if the videos posted here actually violate any FAA rules, I don’t know. Someone else can jump in on that. If you wanna see the footage, just google “Kings Island drone.” As for KIC removing the videos—if you want them backstage Beast tours, you gotta play ball.

Even the heavy duty golf carts could only get so far...

Dubious on the WaterWorks Waterspout component of this recollection.

It is, in fact, my real name. Imagine my confusion and excitement as a kid when I saw those Mighty Duck movies (some friends had to tell me about them).

Must be a stark contrast when the seat's warm.

"Teasers" By: Gordon Bombay In the backstage area of the park, within a warehouse nestled between the parking lot, Planet Snoopy, and a security post—there is an office. It's a quaint space, an older area that's a nice respite from the heat afforded to whoever is on duty at the time. A man sits there among the hum of a struggling window a/c unit, the din of the water park, and the faint whistle of the train passing in the distance. He slinks down onto a desk chair, one probably as old as the park itself. The well-worn coveralls he dons are speckled with dried paint. On the walls: remnants of a proud park's past are hanging in posterity: signs dating back to the halcyon days of Son of Beast's announcement (before it all went wrong), posters highlighting the first Winterfest revival, and wooden smurf characters outlined with a faded blue. His desktop computer struggles. Recently loaded with Windows 10, its hardware hails from a software edition that debuted just prior to the new millennium. He squints to see the screen in the warm afternoon light of a muggy midwestern afternoon. In his glasses, words reflected... "KICentral.com," "Forums," "Decoding2020," and... "teasers." Confidently, he pushes back in the chair, propping his feet up on the desk. He sips his coffee and glances over at a stack of freshly printed signs sitting against the wall—the ones waiting for their day in the park. Chuckling, he glances back at the computer screen and mutters: "When I'm darn good and ready you impatient, 'Acers.' When I'm darn good and ready."

The best part about this ride is even during the extensive downtime and low capacity it would have, it's still cool to look at. You'd think that whatever's going behind Racer would've been better plopped down there. Timberwolf is an eyesore. Congo Falls is. Well, it's there.

In 2000, the year Son of Beast debuted, it would've been the fourth longest roller coaster in the world, but the second longest wooden roller coaster in the world. When Voyage debuted in 2006, it fell just behind Son of Beast. So, during SOB's lifetime: World's Longest Rollercoasters: 1. Steel Dragon 2000 2. The Ultimate 3. The Beast 4. Son of Beast World's Longest Wooden Rollercoasters: 1. The Beast 2. Son of Beast 3. The Voyage

Wonderful. Thank you for the insight!

I love this thread. There is some great information in here. There's also some silliness. You guys are way overthinking the this whole notion of reasons as to when, where, and why the track would be moved/show up.