BoddaH1994

I wonder if Gerstlauer would have even made new trains for SOB if they were asked to...

I think she got a little over-heated, but I don't blame her. You basically said, "Hey, I have this video... it includes some of your employees being crude and shows a ride breaking down... will you post this on your web site?" No doubt the employee was in the wrong, but you're not doing any justice to the park, or any park at that, by showcasing it. It's without a doubt that theme parks don't directly compete with eachother. If you listen to their conference calls, you'll notice that the parks compete for your discretionary money, which means they're competing with things such as movies, video games, etc etc etc. They're in the business of winning over your wants since all of the things mentioned aboe certainly aren't needs. When you defame one park, you're hurting the industry as a whole. Why would someone want to go to KI, Six Flags, Dollywood, etc if amusement park employees have a reputation for being rude? The general public does NOT distinguish between parks the way in which the rest of us do.

No, the fenced section at the far end is where they removed a few seats.

Yep, tallest and fastest woody. Of course they are adding trim breaks so it may not be the fastest anymore.

SFKK actually can't build that high because of height restrictions due to the airport. If you like SFKK, you'll be blown away by the rest of the chain. SFKK is the absolute arm pit of the chain.

I agree with Ronny... there's isn't much to Holiday World. They've got 3 coasters with the Voyage being my personal favorite coaster of all time, the Legend being pretty good, and the Raven being nothing more than okay in my book. Other than that, what's there to do? Liberty Launch? The waterpark is different from Boomerang Bay, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's that much better. I do like how it's all close together rather than everything being a mile and a half apart like CDBB. I've been to about a dozen parks now and I really think KI has some of the best employees I've seen. I've heard wonderful things about Holiday World and Cedar Point employees, but I have yet to see it. Holiday World is so overzealous with safety now that it almost detracts from the experience, and Cedar Point employees are apathetic at best. When I went to Holiwood Nights last year, they ran one train on both coasters and two on thew new legend, until later in the evening when they added a 2nd to Legend and the 3rd to Voyage which I may add took several cycles before it warmed up and they let people on it. I don't know why they do that. Maybe they're saving wear and tear on the vehicles..?

I know that in the past it instructed you to stop by GR and receive a ticket at the old Paramount Parks, but I'm wondering if that was the case at KI the past few years. Using your Maxx pass at KI is actually a rather complected process if you think about it since we are merging several different system and throwing in a new process just for fun.

I've found myself cutting through it more often now than ever. I really hope they do something with it, but not necessarily build on it.

Exactly -- and to bring up the topic of another thread, the station on your right from the view of the photo that Robbie showed you is wheelchair accessible along with the rest of the queue. Come to think of it, is there another exit route from the station that does not require stairs? There of course has to be, but I can't think of it. Can anyone chime in?

They probably meant they used to like Skyline before they became a vegetarian. May I ask why you chose to be a vegetarian? I always found that interesting. It's rare that you find someone who's a vegetarian because they're against the "killing of innocent animals". My sister is a vegetarian because she got sick at school when she was in high school after eating, which turned her off to beef, then she was served an undercooked chicken sandwich at Steak 'n Shake which turned her off to the rest of meats. She did however revert back to fish recently. My mom's a vegetarian too, but it's because she had breast cancer about 12 years ago and the Chemotherapy made most meat taste like metal to her, and ever since then she's eaten VERY little meat.

Long story short for the everyone: Dane and I are obviously very good friends, yet we live well over 100 miles away so we rarely get to see eachother unless it's at KI. Well, he was invited to go to CP with Todd and his crew, who live about 20 minutes from me. I was originally going to go over there for a few hours the night before they left just to say hi and hang out with everyone. Well, I was on my way there to meet Dane when he called me asking me to hurry over because it was so "awkward" because he got there and everyone who was going on the trip was asleep when he got there. Long story short, I ended up hanging out with Dane until they left around 6:30. The reason why I was looking "sick" was because I had stayed up all night and was pretty darn tired at that point. Well worth it though, at least I got to say hi to everyone and got to hang out with Dane.

Do you realize what a pain in the *** it would be to have to transfer a wheel chair overtop of the trains. The reason they use the exits is so they can get back in their chair after riding. That's more of a problem with the park than a problem with an individual disabled person. FOF, and most riders built in the past 15 or so years have been built with a queue that can accommodate any kind of special needs access. Don't forget that some people who are confined to wheel chairs don't have problems just standing, some have mental disorders as well which makes it difficult for them, their parties, and the people around them to be in line. Personally, I'm thankful that I CAN wait in line for 3 hours rather than required to come up an exit. Don't let one pseudo-perk cloud the very difficult lives that a lot of these people live.

Just listen to their conference calls and you'll believe it. Shapiro and Co. are really trying to win back guests by making the parks a good value, good experience, and a good way to spend your discretionary dollars.

I should have gone with you... stupid work. haha You'd better go again... cuz I'm comin'!

It has for the time being. http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9683

I think what he was trying to say when he was talking about "abuse" of the policy is when people rent wheelchairs simply to get in the front of the lines. I've actually heard of people claiming they've done it.

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I agree... lie to fly at the beginning is the best.

I had a similiar experience when the final breaks mis-caught. No big deal, but certainly fun.

Mod edit: Good topic, made into a poll.

Sunday wasn't too terribly bad either.

Since it's early 07 and no clues have been officially dropped about the 2008 attraction, what do you guys think it'll be? Speculate away.

There was a good reason why they didn't release the Firehawk information. First of all, the plans were not set in stone until after the season, and then they had trouble coming up with a name.

I wouldn't really say "anywhere". Son of Beast sits in a valley and I think it's shocking how non-prevalent that massive structure is from the highway. I would guess that Congo's ridership isn't that great. The ride isn't that high of capacity and it still rarely sees a line. I wonder how much money they make off of Timberwolf. It makes me wonder if it's worth having it. I'm not saying that you're right, or trying to hint at anything, but the speculation is a viable option for the park.

The system for Firehawk has been rewired per lesson learned from Stealth.