BoddaH1994

With most coasters, it is the natural forces themselves that keep you in the car, not so much the lap bar. In fact, if you look at the history of coaster ride injuries, a good portion of them have occurred when a train has rolled back within a loop, which I think is a result the forces doing things to both the rider and the train that it wasn't designed to do. Keep in mind that most of this occurred several decades ago when safety restraints weren't what they are now. Could the Arrow trains be retrofitted? I'm guessing yes, but as PKIBeast said, it wouldn't be cost effective to do so. They really couldn't market it as a new ride, and I doubt it causes the level of damage to the head the FoF once did.

Do you remember about 10 years ago when people used to reproduce the old "Taste Great... Less Filling" Miller commercial? That used to own.

You're actually absolutely right. Have you ever noticed that the first thing Jeff says at any of the press conference is that all of the information is available of PKI.com? When they update the site, more than likely, the new pages are there already, they just rename them to make your browser to default to that page. With that, you can uncover a lot of secrets by exploring around PKI.com. If you noticed this is a NC expansion that is clearly about Carowinds, yet is on PKI's root directory. Obviously they can't just change names, but they can whipe all of the info and stull use the template. Cool find! Ryan

I thought you only saved $1 on Winterfest tickets...

I heard that from a guy who said he was really good friends with the glassblower's son's friend.

It is very true. I remember riding it in '96 and getting off every time with a headache. I also remember ride ops instructing everyone to remove any percings they may have before getting on the ride.

Fall Freakout last year was more or less the same deal as Beastbuzz this year except they had a few different ERTs including Fearfest attractions, Drop Zone, and Delirium, and we had lunch in the picnic grove instead of the International Restaurant. But I mean, come on! What's a PKI event without Stevie B making you look like an idiot to the other guests when you're trying to count the lights in The Vortex sign, or counting the Scooby Snacks in SDATHC... it's just not the same.

Pre-production of rides like this quite literally takes years. As far as construction goes, I remember seeing KCKC closed down and marked off in early 2001.

The trains are still in there.. in fact you can still see them even with the lights off if you look REALLY hard. They're mainly along the edges of the ride. Click here to see pictures of the trains from Fall Freakout 2004.

I lost mine a couple of years ago on SOB and they mailed it to me. The best of luck to you.

I actually just noticed that they have a viewable site yesterday when we were bombarded by photographers as we entered the park. Please note that it takes about 24 hours to update with the previous day's photos.

No more 1337, I hate that stuff.

There's still really no denying that we've seen a LOT of ride accidents from Disney over the past several years.

That would also account as to why they don't say "parking" on them since you might buy it one year and not the next. I think you should save $10 on the pass (since that's the reissue fee) if you renew without getting a new physical pass.

Very true, but at the same time, a LOT of people whom have heard about Winterfest now have been talking about it like it was the greatest thing ever. I'm talking about people who haven't been to PKI in years... the park is claiming that it's going to be bigger and better than ever, but we'll see. Hopefully it won't suffer the same fate as Fearfest in which it was great at first, then in 2003 it wasn't much better than a joke, only to be rebounded better than ever in 2004... It seems as though the trend has been to build something up to greatness, then cut the budget and hope that it can sail on its former popularity, and when it doesn't pour money into it the next year. I am confident that this was a lesson learned. Personally, I am thrilled about Winterfest. In the past year or two, the park has seemed to outdo itself again and again. Those of you who were at IJ's media day, or the Wintefest announcement can probably see what I am talking about. It comes down to the park's ability to communicate this level of "magic" per se to the general public, which is a field that PKI has been getting more and more strong in daily.

Insults/bad information/bad grammar/idiotic comments are not tolerated here. Closing...

The word on the street is that Tomb Raider will be getting a little more TLC than usual this offseason, so that might have something to do with it. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if more rides are open than what they are telling us about. They have only announced 4, but that doesn't mean that more could happen, maybe they're just not sure yet and didn't want to make a big deal about it.

They were once again testing it without anyone on it today.

Last year our 2004 gold pass did not get us into fearfest. PKI gave free admission to fearfest with our 2005 season pass. We got a heck of a deal on our 2005 passes because we bought them so early. If I am remembering correctly our season passes expired at the end of September so if we wouldn't have bought them we would of had to pay to see fearfest. That's not true, last year both 2004 and 2005 passes were accepted for Fearfest. I guess I misunderstood what PKI was saying when I got the e-mail. Sorry.. next time I'll keep my mouth shut. It's an understandable mistake. They make a big deal about the fact that you get Fearfest for free with the next year's season pass.

Last year our 2004 gold pass did not get us into fearfest. PKI gave free admission to fearfest with our 2005 season pass. We got a heck of a deal on our 2005 passes because we bought them so early. If I am remembering correctly our season passes expired at the end of September so if we wouldn't have bought them we would of had to pay to see fearfest. That's not true, last year both 2004 and 2005 passes were accepted for Fearfest.

^ ^^ Oh yeah, I'm terrified of snakes myself. That's one of the very few phobias I can really diagnose myself with. I have seen snakes at PKI myself. Sometimes they crawl accross the midway, but it's just garder snakes and they're minding their own business. The rumor that I had heard was that WWC was infested with water snakes, and that when you rode the ride, you more or less ran the risk of them washing into your boat whenever you hit the waves. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure that at the end of the year when they drain that thing, they bull some disgusting things out of it, but probably not water snakes.

I added a few more photos contributed by SOB_Tom which can be viewed by clicking here.

Just because Skylab had problems doesnt mean Kings Island should blow off Huss completely. First off, you dont know what your talking about. Skylabs down time couldve been any number of things that werent related to Huss. It couldve been down all the time because of how KI maintenance kept it up, the weather, the condition it was kept in. No one knows. Thats only one Huss ride. Shake Rattle and Roll is a Huss ride and is always running. Tomb Raider is a Huss ride. To say KI should not trust HUSS because of one ride that didnt work quite well for reasons probably no one on this board knows is qite ignorant. I don't entirely agree with that... let's look at the PKI Huss rides off of the top of my head: Delirium: Goes without saying Skylab: More than its fair share of downtime and then removed. Tomb Raider: Frequent downtime SR&R: Consistantly running The Bat: Huss-Arrow - Prototype, but was removed within 4 years nonetheless.. Now you can debate back and forth however you want, but if you look at their track record at PKI, it's not promising. It's a shame they make such awesome rides with such weak track records.

When I was younger, I was lead to believe that WWC was heavily infested with venomous snakes.

I just added a couple of photos which can be seen by clicking here..