Browntggrr

That's a good way to get your car stolen. *facepalm*

I suppose it depends on what you feel the lesser of two evils are. While CP (or KI pre-Paramount) has lost some of the charm we remember, those corporate dollars have also introduced some big money & innoventive rides that some of us crave.

KI is not toying with us as less than a year ago, an article was printed stating SoB would be closed in 2010: http://www.wlwt.com/news/22874809/detail.html And if you want to read more into the quote, the ride would be closed until KI officials feel it is performing at a higher level. Given that no work has been done on the ride, I feel safe assuming SoB will be SBNO for 2011.

SeaWorld prepares to get back in the water with its killer whales http://news.bostonherald.com/news/national/south/view/20110224seaworld_prepares_to_get_back_in_the_water_with_its_killer_whales/srvc=home&position=recent

Cedar Fair’s Loan to Refinance Debt Said to Rise in First Trade http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-02-23/cedar-fair-s-loan-to-refinance-debt-said-to-rise-in-first-trade.html

Santa Clara Moves To Preserve Funds For 49ers Stadium Project http://www.foxreno.com/news/26962113/detail.html

^ Getting the steel treatment is an out of touch reality experiment for SoB still being dreamed upon by SoB's hardcore enthusiasts. Yes, TG is getting the "steel treatment". TG was also considered one of the best wood coasters at one time and has not had the numerous issues SoB has had (even though TG is 10 years older). TG's layout is better than SoB's. TG's roi has also exceeded SoB's by such a large number, it is hard to guess what it could be. Then the big question- will the same firm actually want to work on SoB? If the ride is still poor, or has another incident, that firm put their stamp of approval on their work and will have to answer to everyone else in their industry. For the amount of money being spent on TG steel treatment, KI is better off dismanting SoB and constructing a new coaster.

^ Congrats! You can pick up your KI season pass with exclusive Beast & DB ERT on opening day under: "I lived in the 80's" Thanks for playing!

^ nope Ok, another hint: "Are you going to use a 220 connection on that?" "220, 221, whatever it takes."

^ Sorry 'terp. Madison was the name of the Mermaid, but that movie did not have that quote.

Ain't that the truth. Some members (myself included) really need to take a step back sometimes and understand all (or most ) of these discussions are centered around a park we have fun at. Being so serious about issues we have minimal knowledge of and have equal or less influence takes the pleasure away of why we are here. "Hey Madison Ave! Lighten up!" -If you can tell me who/ what this quote is from, you get the browntggrr prize of the day!

I said it "appears" to be neglected. I am referring to those people that come to the park once or twice a year and wonder why nothing is happening with it. You and I understand why it is closed, but may not be the perception of the GP. From a GP perspective, the reaction is that it appears to be down rather than neglect. "Neglect" gives the notion that the ride is falling apart, which it clearly is not.

Neglected? Really? The ride is closed due to safety concerns. And since that was announced, nothing else has happened, except, those who want to read into things rivaling National Enquirer. I would be more concerned if they were actually maintaining the ride, only to tear it down later.

^ Especially in Cincinnati where the term: "Don't you know who I am? I'm an NFL football player!" is tossed around frequently to police!

I am not sure what you are asking....

Deleting (if it was actually deleted- I don't see how anyone could know it to be a fact, unless it was done themselves) does not mean anything is being covered up. The answer may be simple- why allow obvious (or vicious ) rumors to spread?

Please tell me this is an inside joke... If it is not, REALLY? Seriously, calling someone out for being hateful, and then calling them ignorant in the same sentence is a joke. Heated discussions do not have to get personal.

That should be an option for every poll when enthusiasts are involved...

Besides the information found at KIC, do you have some sort of inside information that KI is not listening to the majority of their customers? Just because a park does not follow what enthusiasts want, does not mean they are not listening. If a park acted on everything they "listened" to there would be no direction at all. Again, just because an opinion is not acted upon, does not mean they didn't listen. The opinion was just not feasible to do. As a former business owner, I constantly had people telling me their opinions. Some good, most bad. I could not put my focus on one small group of people that only came to the bar during happy hour as they only came in for 2 hours a day, Monday through Friday. I still had to run my business 7 days a week from 11am - 2am. If I tried to make everyone happy, I would have been broke within 2 months. Now, if anyone did not see this coming, shame on them. I have been a season pass holder for numerous chains for many years. The decision KI has made is not at all surprising. WS is the new ride for 2011. Why is that ERT a surprise? Vortex is a coaster near WS. Why is that ERT a surprise? ERT decisions like this are typical. Now I'm sure there will be tons of naysayers that believe since the Gold Pass ERT was originally advertised as Beast & DB that the park should honor that. While you are not entirely incorrect, I believe when 2010 passes went on sale, that exact wording was used as well. And it does say, as the passes have always said, "subject to change". Honestly, i am looking forward to the ERT on WS & Vortex. When the park opens at 10am, that area will be very busy while I will be in Rivertown.

^ What would they be trying to cover up?

http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/morning_call/2011/02/dayton-needs-millions-to-house-shuttle.html

I have been to CP on opening day numerous times where it has not only been cold, but rainy. Even w/o the precipatation, enjoying those rides in cold temperatures is a difficult task. Which brings me back to Winterfest. I'm sure if the revenue generated be Winterfest far outweighed the: planning, set-up, staffing, and cost it would still be around. The local Zoo had Zooluminations for a few weeks around Christmas years ago. It was a really fun event as the whole zoo was decorated in Christmas lights & seeing the animals in the winter time was a change of pace for most people. The event was cancelled due to lack of local intrest & difficulty in set-up. The effort far outweighed the revenue generated. It just wasn't worth the time to continue the event. I can see the same thing with Winterfest.

I always got a chuckle out of that line. To this day, I still believe this is the more appropriate line: " Where the magic of advertising our movies is close to the hype of a lifetime in announcing a new ride." But that is just me....

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/business_tourism_aviation/2011/02/disney-outlines-first-details-of-1-billion-nextgen-initiative.html

^ Absolutely! What a fantastic addition for the museum.