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Five 'new' coasters coming to Six Flags Magic Mountain? Not so fast http://www.latimes.com/travel/deals/themeparks/la-trb-six-flags-magic-mountain-roller-coasters-01201117,0,5604411.story

Or the money is not availble yet... It took about 3 years for Drachen Fire to finally be dismantled after it was shut down. I was really wondering if they set aside some Wind Seeker construction money to start work on SOB, whatever that may be? But with them really sprucing up Coney Mall, I doubt they have a lot of contingency money left for SOB. Although I fear it has been happening for some time; I would hope money would not be taken from one project to be used on SoB in any fashion.

Or the money is not available yet... It took about 3 years for Drachen Fire to finally be dismantled after it was shut down.

That is a simple answer for web design: more than she did. It could have been the difference of succeeding vs. what really happened. Take a good look right here at KIC and what a small group of dedicated young adults have done. I would happily send a donation to them given the enjoyment this site has offered over the years. There are enough enthusiasts with web design experience that I'm sure would have been happy to help out if they felt the project was worth the time. On the down payment? Given this: http://www.savethebigdipper.org/ It appears there was more money available for the down payment, but she was unwilling to send it. Why not be willing to use the money that people donated, unless there was some kind of fear the project would fall through. On the attorney? Please see the above comments about the web design as it applies here also. Since it appears you have an emotional tie to this project: how much did she spend out of pocket for the project for the same entities you questioned me about?

Surfing the web and comparing other sites should do the trick: http://www.google.com/ So you are saying that she should have spent her time and effort creating a better website rather than trying to save the coaster? I don't think the donors would have appreciated that. Yes, she should have worked on a better website prior to jumping in feet first. Also, given that the site was the easiest way of donating, a legitimate look is paramount for "selling" people to donate. For instance: Conneaut Lake Park was granted $50,000 for their Blue Streak roller coaster through the Pepsi Refresh Project. CLP for years has been: struggling to stay open, been in and out of bankruptcy, has had numerous owners & trustees, etc. Bottom line- the park was written off by most people. But then comes a vote by those same people to grant a large sum of money to save, argueably, the park's shining star. If there were not people putting forth great effort to legitimately save the park, others would not have voted to save the coaster. http://www.refresheverything.com/conneautlakeparkbluestreak Unfortunately, with it comes to donating money, there will be skeptics- I am one of them. Since I do not know the people involved, I rely on the information given, and an update on Oct. 20th and then another update Dec. 2nd does not sit well with me as the information is not forthcoming. I want to know everything going on. If that information is not given, it leads to questions about the legitimacy of the project. I'm sure those involved had every intention of saving the coaster, and not to personally scam anyone. If some want to believe that my comments were to "cut her down left and right" so be it. My comments were not intended to insult her or her idea on a personal level, but they were intended to voice an opinion of how things were handled from a business standpoint.

Surfing the web and comparing other sites should do the trick: http://www.google.com/

While her heart may have been in it, the effort was not there. There was nothing insulting at all. The effort was poor, at best. Just look at the website and updates (or lack of updates). it comes off as internet spam. What judgements were passed without facts? The effort was not there, and the project failed. You can call it "passing judgement"- I call it the brutal truth based upon the facts given (or not given) by the fundraising website. If you have more "facts" that have not been released, please enlighten us. Being an enthusiast does not entitle one for fundraising. I would not take on such a project simply because I cannot put in 100% effort due to work and family. She had a great idea with poor planning; and because of the lack of effort, another group that may want to accomplish the same thing will be hurt due to her failure. Many people (most non-enthusiasts) will look at another "save" as another failed attempt and simply ignore it. In a nutshell: it is too bad her efforts did not equal her intentions. If they would have, I suspect she would have raised more than $384. The fact she did not, in a society of enthusiasts, speaks volumes.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/dayton-news/attendance-numbers-rising-at-areas-amusement-parks-1052888.html?cxtype=rss_local-news

It still blows my mind they can not only pour cement in this weather, they can effectivly do it in sand with the water table being so close. I'm not saying they can't do it, as it has been done at CP for YEARS, but the dynamics of it still shocks me.

I would honestly like to assume the same thing, but, I would also assume that she would have everyone that donated on speed dial and would have already paid the money back leaving the "options" message on the website as never being written because a "we already paid the money back" message was done instead.

Options? People donated for "Saving the Big Dipper". Now that clearly appears to not be happening, and those that donated have options? How about they just refund the money? That seems simple enough. This was a half-hearted effort from the beginning, and has ended like most suspected.

You knew of two possible opening days? Now that IS intresting inside information!

Treated wood settles?

I cannot think of one situation where a parent or gaurdian intentionally leaves a child alone and they are considered falsely accused.

Although not nearly on the same scale, but with a great ending.... Back in 2000, MF was hit by lightning on a Friday night in the middle of summer. The head of CP maintenance took the red-eye to Switzerland to get a replacement part for the computer, came back to CP Saturday night to start operation at 9:45pm. CP kept operating MF till 2:00am to satisfy as many guests as possible. Also, 2012 will be a leap year, not 2011.

Alrighty, then....no need for a trial...you see, it has been determined with certainty that in situations like these, people are not arrested for a miscommunication error or an innocent mistake...I see. It just does not happen. The police are always right.... Terp....speechless When did I say the police are always right? Again, in situations like this, like when a parent leaves a child alone for an extended amount of time, parents are not arrested for innocent mistakes or miscommunication. Like some, I chose my words carefully with the intention they would be read with that same meaning....

Like most businesses that are always open, Disney will reduce staffing & close rides based upon attendance at the park. I didn't like that answer either when I asked about the same thing. Since KI is only open for about 1/3 of the year, it is more critical that the guest experience ends when the park closes.

I am always reluctant to believe the media, but in this situation, she was arrested by the authorities. In situations like this (i.e. leaving a young child home alone or leaving a child in a car alone), people are not arrested for a miscommunication error or an innocent mistake. I have "lost" my daughter at KI. I certainly didn't joke about it when she was found, nor would I have ever requested she not be looked at by paramedics.

My daughter was diagnosed with autism at 14 months, so I have been there. Yes, it has been a strain, but, she is still my daughter and I have no problem playing the hand dealt to me and making the most of the situation. There were many times it would have been much easier to throw the towel in, but that would have just hurt my daughter, and my family, in the long run. I am confused on how what happened a century ago has anything to do with the decisions made today. Just because things were handled differently then, does not justify a bad decision today. And yes, some people have been falsely accused for things. But again, what does that have to do with a mother leaving her son alone in a theme park, and then lie about it?

So after all these years, she just happened to crack at a theme park, but still had sense of mind to lie about it? I'm sorry, but that is pretty thin.

Stories like this make me sick. If this *person* (mother or lady is too nice) is able to leave her disabled son like this in a public element, imagine the type of care she provides (or doesn't provide) behind closed doors. I still believe (and I am not joking) people should have to get a license to have children because of things just like this.

When pushing the envelope of creating thrilling rides, there are things that just cannot be anticipated with a computer during the design stage. If that means a design change that eliminates the trims added to keep I305, fantastic. Enthusiasts know all too well about the trim arguement. I applaud both KD and Intamin for working together, as it benefits everyone.

No offense to Mr. Koch, but, I believe anyone in the industry would have felt they could do better- smart or not....

And yet you still try to explain to every SoB fanboy that's posts about re-opening the ride and/or adding the loop back in that it is a bad idea Great. Another person besides my wife to call me insane.