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You have not proven a thing. You made references to how much money KI gave as a sponsor (which according to the sites you provided could be any dollar amount that KI decided) yet with no proof. You made references to KI having no input as to the events, yet with no proof. You made comments to "trust you", and since you come off as a troll, it has been rather fun to wind your clock over something that means absolutely nothing. You have resorted to message board insults because we have brought up possibilites of what KI could be planning for the future. Sure it is a tax write off for KI. And it is also great publicity. But why is it so impossible that KI could be testing the waters for a future return of Winterfest?

Since Winterfest is the title to an event, be sure to capitalize the "W". Give it the respect it deserves.

Please, no parking garage. If you think that the parking lot looks questionable now, adding a cement building to it for cars will not help. Adding a parking garage to KI's parking lot is like adding a building to a failed ride, directly on a Great Lake shoreline. Wait a minute... Yeah, don't give CF ANY ideas. It would just add up to a disaster, especially at closing time.

Exactly how do you know that?

Exactly how much is a "little money"? Aside from the fact that if there were things KI did not agree with, they would not give any money. If the park did not sponsor this event in the past, it does raise speculation. Perhaps it is good will for Mason. If so, good for the park to sponsor the event for Mason. But it is intresting that the park would sponsor anything that does not take place on park property. Especially in winter when the park is closed. Sure, it could be considered good advertising. But why does the park not run TV ads when the park is closed? Perhaps there is no reason to...

^ You are lost man... Let's put it simple for you. Don't tell people to stop giving thier opinions. If you don't like the "crap", move on. Deal with the plain fact that everyone is not going to agree with you. Nor are they going to enjoy the same things you do. You want to see the ride stay. Good for you. If they want to see a ride torn down, that is their opinion. Deal with it and move on.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/features_...y-makes-ch.html

Hmmm... That is intresting. Why would KI sponsor an event that has no association with the park? Or has the park been the sponsor in prior years and is just keeping with tradition? And a Christmas event at that. Could this be CF's way of sending out feelers for popularity to possibly bring back Winterfest on their terms?

The attendance came within 8% of projections with an increase of 800,000 from last year. That really is not too bad.

Yeah, I'm defending exactly what you are claiming to be doing. And I'm not bashing your opinion at all. If you don't like people's opinions, don't go to a message board. Or should I say this to level the paying field: Enough with the keep it running crap!!!! It has been a money pit from day one. The ride is taking up so much money, other things in the park have been neglected. If the park cannot operate the ride with out people being injured or even enjoying it, what is the point of puring more money into it? Just stop saying it is good enough to save...we get it. We got it the entire first year when it was not enjoyable. And even after numerous modifications, it is one of the least enjoyable coasters out there. Its hardly much better now IMO. It was terrible before the new trains. Now its hardly better than it was when it first opened.

If you don't want to hear people's opinions, don't go to a internet message board. If you can't handle it, don't read it.

I'm really not sure how anyone can vote for the old SBNO SoB. I'll take a coaster that gives a questionable ride, yet still operates vs. a ride that is a large lawn ornament.

Even more out of place than IJ?

Who says enthusiasts are not unrealistic?

http://www.newsnet5.com/news/14783871/detail.html

CP being open in November is nothing new. They did the same thing a few years ago. And given how popular Halloweekends are, it is a no-brainer from a business standpoint.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...7120400424.html Even in the first blog post, the writer acknowledges that ride accidents are rare. Yet the headline would give a different opinion. Articles like this make me sick...

As sad as this story is, it is encouraging that she is well enough to start moving on, even if it is with a prostetic leg. Kudos to her and her family. I cannot even begin to imagine what they have gone through.

What did you expect with a free jacket? And it was never advertised as a "Kings Island" jacket. So why would "Kings Island" appear on the jacket? Some people are just never happy....

I never said DT was not a coaster. Where did you get that from? I am just not sure if in this case discussing a removal of a steel coaster if DT can be catagorized the same way as Gemini, Corkscrew, MF, etc. DT does run on a steel surface, but not on steel rails like the other coasters mentioned. Even RCDB has it listed as steel/ bobsled. It is certainly a gray area as far as it's class.

Another one of those: "Well, ok. I'll believe it when I see it." Now if this were even remotely true, I'd go with DT, even though I'm not sure it can be classified as a steel coaster. With DD being up for sale for a a while now (obviously not in CP's long term plans), the additional space that DT would leave would be large footprint possibly for the wood coaster CP is lacking. But even at that, I still find it difficult to believe that news of this magnatiude would have been leaked.

Call it what you want, but smaller ice caps certainly paint a different picture. http://www.i-sis.org.uk/GlobalWarming2.php http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0811-06.htm

The thing is, even if you live a close distance to KI, gas prices still affect your trip. Only because everything is more expensive due to higher gas prices. Food, building supplies, metal, and actually any type of commodity is affected by gas prices. So even though the high gas price may not affect your actual gas tank, it is affected in other ways. Perhaps you decide not to get that one extra Coney Dog, or bottle of Aquafina, so that there is extra change in your pocket, it is still affected by gas prices. Or in my case, I plan longer trips where my family will do many things (as a result use more vacation time) instead of taking short trips (i.e.: Single trip to DollyWood, HolidayWorld, KI and CP and then back home. As well as Hershey, Dorney, KD and BGW in one trip.) When a few years ago we would just do a quick weekend to Hershey and back home.

What is your point?

http://jimhillmedia.com/blogs/jim_hill/arc...rry-potter.aspx