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The passport requirement was waived if you can prove that you have already applied for a passport and have not recieved it yet. There has been an issue getting passports due to everyone applying at once. The only requirement for 2007 is for air & sea travel. In 2008 a passport will be required for all travel outside of the US. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html It really is not a bad idea to have a passport anymore. I would suggest getting one even if you are not planning on traveling abroad. You never know when you will need it. You can always get one quick, but the cost is more than double.

Don't make a special trip to CP just for MS!

Glad you had a decent trip minus the ticket & weather. Have you ever seen the movie Jaws? Richard Dryfuss makes some type of comment about the people swimming in the water and how the shark will never move on due to dinner always being served. Well that is how the police are around CP. They know many people travel a good distance, they know most are younger adults, they know that younger adults seem to drive just a little faster than most- especially when they are trying to get to the Point early in the morning. I really can't tell you how many times I have gone to CP and seen an upwards of 10 cars pulled over in one trip. On Mantis: Many years ago Mantis did operate with 3 trains. But due to the load/ unload difficulties trains always stacked up. Having the third train would not increase thruput. On Lake Erie weather: Welcome to the shallowest of the Great Lakes! This causes severe storms come and go rather quickly. On the employees of CP: glad you had a good experiance with them. As the summer progresses, the attitudes decline. Early on, many of the college students are excited to be out of school, they are excited to be working at a summer resort, and they are glad to be making money & having fun at the same time. Unfortunately as the summer creeps into the hot humid days of July & August some of those same students find that working at CP is not as much fun as it was early on. They also find out that the money is not that good, and mom & dad are less likely to send more money due to not currently being in school. The heat, guests, and hours take a considerable toll on them and they are much more irratable. Don't forget to pay that ticket!

It really is funny how the park has such a gray area as to what loose items are. It is rather well known that on TTD, you cannot have loose items. I always wear tight sunglass straps. On one of my HallowWeekend trips a few years ago my father did not have straps. Since I had deep pockets, I offered to carry his sunglasses. Well this transaction took place at the ride entrance. The young lady doing her checks mentioned that I could not do that. I started to explain that this is allowed, and she flipped out on me screaming about how I don't know the rules. Instead of getting into an arguement, I let her go on, and on, and on for a few minutes. She was so vocal that a CP security guard came over to see what the commotion was. Finally she stopped. I than asked her where the lockers were. She pointed them out (yes I knew where they were at). I then asked her if there were straps on the locker keys, she said some do, some don't. I than asked her what the difference was between putting a key in my pocket vs. putting sunglasses in my pocket, or for that matter, leaving my wallet in my pocket. She had no response. I politely told her to have a nice day and started into the line. She than screamed at the security guard for not doing anything. The guard just sat there and smiled at her, and told her she was wrong. The point is, everyone has a different take on what is or is not allowed. The parks really need to be more clear as to what their policy is.

The bottom line is (and when it comes to anything making money, the bottom line is the only one that counts) if it was not making money, it would not be around. You always have a choice. Either you pay to enjoy/ try it out or you don't pay and move on to the next ride. It is that way with anything. Some people decide to pay for a drink, or some will quench their thirst a fountain. I don't mind pay rides. Some I thouroughly enjoy, others I keep on walking. No matter what, I am just glad that the park gives me the choice. If the ride was not there, the choice was already made for me.

It is a rather beautiful sunny day!

But you obviously know his ex-wife!

I usually do not double post, but I need to respond. So sorry if it upsets anyone. How do you know they were not told by the ride operators to come back at that time? According to the responses here, that is the policy. And even if they did not wait, what is one more cycle? Heck, after 3.75 hrs. what is another cycle, or another .5 hr.? I am willing to bet they would be willing to wait double that time to stand in line to have a life like yours.

^ ^I can understand people like them moving to the front of the lines. Imagine the mob scene in the queue (for instance- Beast) if they waited like everyone else. It would be unsafe for them & for guests. And if an incident did happen, getting security personnel to the area in a timely fashon would be difficult. High profile people should bypass lines.

I really don't think a total fine of $21,000 is going to keep Shapiro awake at night. It sounds like it is nothing more than a misunderstanding. Nothing was being hidden, and nobody was harmed. Dan Snyder probably keeps that amount in his wallet.

^ There is no doubt that FoF is one of the most popular ride KI has. Just because it does not have a line when you are there, does not mean that it is not popular. Consider yourself lucky with quick lines!

Many years ago the same type of prizes were given away under inflated. If the park is now giving away the prizes properly inflated- that only tells me one thing; the revenue went down due to the under-inflated balls. But this topic started out with a guest throwing a basketball from a moving ride. Under-inflated or properly inflated, if it hits another guest there is a serious potential for an injury.

Well given that the game is rather addicting to those who like to spend money resulting in the park making money hand over fist, it will not be closed down. I would think that the ride operators need to pay more attention to what is being brought on the rides. Of coarse finding the hooligan and ejecting him/ her from the park is effective as well. Perhaps the operator of the game could mention and a sign installed of what could happen to guests that do not follow the rules of bringing the BBs on a ride before taking the contestant's money. Sometimes a simple reminder helps for those who are intellectually challenged.

Sure it is possible. But you have to be rather determined and very focused. You can't get sidetracked by midway games, taking multiple breaks, or eating 4 times during the day. It also depends on the weekday. If you are planning to go during the first two weeks of July, it would be a challenge due to the 4th being on a Wednesday. If I were to try to hit all the major rides, I would start at the front of the park and work my way back. You could probably hit Raptor, WT, DT, BS, ID & PT within the first 1.5- 2.0 hrs. you are there since everyone will be heading to Maverick early on & due to Joe Cool. Maverick would be my last ride. As long as you are in line by 10:00pm, with the exception of a major breakdown, they will get you on the ride. Which reminds me of a great night at CP. Back in 2000 the wife and I left a wedding in $hitsburgh and decided to hit the Point. We got to CP at about 3:00am Saturday- no reservations but we tried to get a room on the Point. SS was booked, and HB had one room left. When we got to the room, there was a "Do not disturb" sign on the door (yes there were people in the room- I used a hotel phone to call). By this time I was so tired, I just laughed. We went back down to the front desk, and the employee there was rather upset about the whole situation, and since they were doing their purge for end of night, there was no way to tell what rooms were available. Well amazingly enough there was another room left and she told us it would be the same price as the first room we tried. It ended up being the Presidential Suite on the (concierge) 10th floor. 1 king bed, 2 Queen, 2 fold out couches, large dining room table, 2 balconies all overlooking Lake Erie. It was great. Than we woke up Saturday morning and found out that MF was hit twice by lightning the night before and would not operate due to the computer being fried. Well given that, we went back to bed till lunch, and did other things in the park we usually don't do. We went to SC, hit smaller rides, and generally took our time. We were at the Red Garter (beer break) at 10:00pm (park was open till 11:00pm) and noticed that there was all kind of activity on the MF platform. With not much else to do, we jumped in line. Come to find out that a CP exec (Monty Jasper?) flew to Germany and back with the part and the ride actually started operating at about 10:20pm. We rode 3 times in 45 minutes. The point is, CF will go to extreme measures to make people happy.

When the decision was made to bring X-Flight to KI, the powers that be probably looked for a parcel of land that was relatively flat and easy to develop given the time frame. Since the former helicopter ride was there previously, and the land was cleared for the most part, it was a rather easy decision. Now if CF is planning another major ride/ expansion, past history (CP) suggests they will add to an area of the park that currently does not recieve a lot of attention from guests. My bet is Rivertown.

Perhaps if she actually mentioned that the decreased attendence was for all of CF and not just KI. When she mentioned: "The numbers are in and it looks like the turnstiles are moving a little slow at Kings Island." There is nothing technical about that. She is plain wrong. It is quite possible that with Maverick opening late, CP is bringing the whole chain down attendence-wise (just speculating). In all reality, I can see KI having a better year than most parks. Ki is near a major city, whereas CP is between two cities that are both struggling right now. Add that with the current gas prices, people may not be traveling very far this year.

I doubt it. Since it seems that Paramount had nothing in store for '07, I would be willing to bet that '08 was not even in their plans. I seem to remember that after the purchase last July there was mention that CF would continue the plans that Paramount had. Obvoiusly for KI, that was not much.

A classic story of the media just plain getting it wrong. If you read this: http://www.cedarfair.com/ir/press_releases/index.cfm, her story makes more sense. She just read the press release and assumed it was KI. ^^And you are correct. I have not seen CF announce attendence for individual parks. I believe that the CF press release was posted here by Interp back on Saturday.

^ I hope your theory is not true. It would not be a true example of how many will enter the gates of KI if a brand new ride were to be built. FH is a good ride, but still a ride that many people have been on. I, for one, have not made a trip to KI this year only because I have already been on FH in the past. I have made my plans to get to CP before KI only because Maverick is the new kid on the block, whereas FH has a new home, but is still essentially the same ride.

Wow. Just wow. As far as waiting in amazing long lines. I have waited 4+ hours for Beast, MF & TTD. None of which I am upset with the wait. Each were in their opening years so it was not much of a surprise. Today, I would not wait that long for any of them for more than 2 hours. I have been on Firehawk at GL and I will not wait for it for more than an hour. I usually find it worth riding other attractions with a minimal line during the openings of new rides that have longer lines. Now when I go to CP later this year, I will wait no matter how long the line is for Maverick, but from early reports, the line does not seem terribly bad. Firehawk is not a waste of time. It is a decent ride and a very nice addition to KI. But what do I know. I still think Beast is one of the best there is.

http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=8795 http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9190 http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9565 http://www.KICentral.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9596 Choose. Choose wisely.

Now if you got everyone else to agree with you, I'm sure that the prices would drop.

This is really not a surprise. And why would a guest even wear a shirt that did have questionable words/ graphics on it anyway? You know that there will be small children in the park. Most, if not all, parks have had the graphic material of shirts policy for many years now. And if you question why you could not just turn it inside out- it is a easy to turn back 200' from the gates. I applaud SF for sticking to their guns on this one.

KI can charge more for a Starlight pass than CP because people will pay it. The same idea goes for the reason why CP can charge admission at Soak City- people will pay for it.

^The rides do have some minor differences. Maxair swings 140' whereas Delirium swings 137'. I also remember that when MaXair was announced that some here were pi$$ed because MaXair was higher than Delirium.