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True....however, if they are down chainwide but doing consistent numbers at KI, they can't have ours be higher than the rest or everyone will renew and purchase at another park selling it cheaper and that does have indirect effects on KI.

The big concern I have if Phantom Theater comes back is everyone's memory and fondness of something usually grows bigger than it was and may result in a letdown. While I have fond memories of it as well, I suspect if they put in an exact replica of it in its glory days and everything brand new, people now would be underwhelmed. I hope I am wrong, but I suspect there will be a lot of Negative Nancy comments if PT returns as it won't live up to the memory and hype people have created for it.

I have said for years, good or bad, that because KI is so woven into the fabric of the community that enough people buy passes for themselves or grandchildren and never go and still buy passes every year because of the perceived value that the park could cut back on spending without much loss of revenue. Sad but true. Sure they lose some enthusiasts, but it is more than made up with new families. This is supported with Six Flags stating KI is the most oversaturated park in the chain. That dictates the spending. I have joked here that we could Geauga Lake the place and still sell 100,000 passes to a closed park LOL. KI passes are that much of a summer tradition to many people. I have also joked here we could go years without spending any money before enough would say "I am not renewing" to make a measurable impact. Now who knows if that is 2, 5, 10, or 15 years LOL. Let's hope they don't go that extreme. They will never admit this, but they probably wanna see how little can they spend before they see measurable drops in passes and attendance at KI. KI is not in growth mode. They are in maintain their base with small incremental growth mode and that drives the spending amount. That is what happens when a park is oversaturated in their market. The small enthusiasts communities don't like that, but you would be surprised how many people rate their experiences as great because they are not following the "drama" found here and on social media. They go and have a great time and don't care who the PR person is or that a trash can hasn't been emptied yet. One could say they are complacent. And in a sense they are, but as long as people keep coming and spending, they have no incentive to do more than what they need to.

Hanks and Enrique's is the same food and inside is the same. They slapped some paint on the exterior and a new name and the place is way more packed than it was as Hanks (I don't ever recall Hanks having a line out the door and that is common now), so it did make a positive difference.... The market has changed and comparing the KI of today/tomorrow to the KI of yesteryear is setting one up for disappointment. Comparing the record breaking and prototypes we used to get to now is a fair comparison and you are right based on that comparison, but their strategy then was to get name recognition and be known and that is not the strategy or market right now. Right now families is where the money is. That is where the investment will continue until the market and consumer spending dictate a change. But I don't see a coaster wars scenario returning until there is close competition to warrant it. Right now CP, HW, DW, KI, etc. all have their lanes and it is working for them.

I overhead Mike saying it at the Cheesecake Factory (cross-threading)

So the calls to John can start up again

Or another teaser

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/goodfood-chair-ceo-jonathan-ferrari-steps-down-six-flags-executive-chairman-selim-bassoul-to-lead-board-59dc6857?mod=investing

What if 8/28 is just another teaser and not an announcement LOL

Yeah, Terpy would be having a field day with this merger! I think the only way that would be a violation would be if that was their intent all along to not do these improvements and they mentioned it to deceive investors. I think they could make the argument that company performance failed to meet expectations and proceeding with these improvements and taking on more debt would be more detrimental to the shareholders than delaying the improvements. But I am not a lawyer and blah blah blah lol

Would be nice if the article said what the violations were....having poor performance isn't a securities law violation... https://www.kget.com/business/press-releases/accesswire/1062877/six-flags-entertainment-corporation-fun-under-investigation-for-potential-securities-law-violations-contact-levi-korsinsky-today/

Now they are just toying with us.

But But But people said it is always crowded and would never leave....

We both knew, and expect, the park to be busy during Haunt despite this change. People love themselves the spooky season. People have been complaining for years that Haunt is watered down and just a regurgitation of Haunt 2019, yet every year we see tons of people in the park and Fast Lane lines approaching, out the queue. People complain, but people still show up. Gotta love the people on FB claiming they bought their passes EXCLUSIVELY for Haunt but when they start charging $10 for the mazes suddenly all of the haunted houses are run-down run-of-the-mill boring snoozefests that aren't worth a nickel out of your pocket. If that's the case, why did you buy a pass just to go? Some of the biggest complainers I know were among the first to buy that pass LOL

Case in point - charging to park and never filling in the potholes