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Dream scenario- the area by potato works looses the out of context giant Sprite umbrellas and that entire area gets a permanent cover with ceiling fans and wooden picnic tables (as does the area by funnel cake) if sprite wants to pay to promote-they get vintage tin signs and crates of glass pop bottles with their logo. On one end a stack of crates and “stuff” can open up quickly to become a stage for Busker, something similar, or just country/bluegrass musician. Lighting and sound incorporated into the structure. Do the same with bier garden (not sure why they took down the more permanent structures they had there) and do brew beats or something different than busker (seemed like a lot of banging last year LOL) done would say I don’t appreciate what we get, but I totally do, I just love thinking outside the box for pluses.

All points well taken. Passion stirs passionate responses many times

You don’t need to be condescending when people express opinions and ideas. I’m fully aware that most parade performers have either just wrapped their shows, or are about to start a run of shows. That’s how Carnivale worked, and it flowed into the evening bandstand entertainment. Also, if you read my post-you’ll see I’m also fully aware of what concept art is. There’s no reason to BOLD the word to clear it up for me. I think if you carefully read most comments, they are super appreciative, and people are very happy with what we’ve gotten. I’ve spoken directly with Mike Koontz and told him as such, but people can still “comment”. I don’t think many here are complaining to the park (I know I’m not) but just throwing out blue sky ideas.

Hiring Barry Williams has nothing to do with using a copyrighted logo (that Paramount owns ironically) it does seem odd that they would’ve used the logo without it being fully approved. anyone know if the additional lasers are in use now?

As you see- I LIKED busker jam. I thought it was a perfect, thematically appropriate show (in a bad location-traffic wise) and as I mentioned, I’d like to see more of those “mini pop-up shows” around the park on peak days. I wish shows like buskers and brew bears didn’t even have a “stage” just an area with propping that suddenly came alive with performers. I love that during a COVID “pull out” year they added live shows with those. My point was I don’t think we should ONLY have that level of shows.(poor Carrowinds only has a couple of singer/band duos and only one “stage show” that’s a lift from Knotts) I wish this year had both the big, AND the little we had last year. That would be a perfect storm. Even if they brought in small, local acts for the evenings in BierGarden and BrewHouse, I think it would be great. Sorry I insulted the buskers (not sorry I insulted the dogs)

And the two rolling present units would’ve looked great flanking the stage. The cake would’ve added some height to the area and made that whole space into a “party zone”. Wonder why they spaced them out. I agree that was one of the strongest parts of carvivsld they way it just flowed from one event into the other as the evening approached.

There were some ideas in the initial concept art that probably never made it past that phase. I shouldn’t have said “cut” as they were never there. Just some nutty “blue sky” ideas that were probably cut to keep things simpler or on budget. If you look closely you can see a few of the unrealized ideas.

That’s my worry-I know a lot of this was budgeted for the 50th, but man, it’s gonna be hard to go back to dog shows and 4 guys banging on car parts next year (nothing against the guys with the car parts-we should have those mini shows as well-great to tie into theme) I hope they are getting serious praise and call outs (I know I have) at guest services about the entertainment this year.

I could see It being a copyright issue that maybe wasn’t resolved or that came up after the show started. I was actually surprised they used the actual show logo and almost prefer “groovy” better because it’s a bit more of an “inside thing”

WIsh that skyline chili bowl man, racer guy and the stilt people as Eiffel Towers hadn’t been cut. Would’ve been fun to have had a few more “KI specific” wacky costumes. Especially the tower stilt person. That seems like a no brainer to have kept. Love that the original song incorporated the opening year slogan “cmon get happy” and that they changed a few lyrics in the existing songs they used. Overall fell it was a cute “extra” but AGAIN they really need to end these on IS at the other “parade gate” and return the units to the tent at close or the next day (or park them at the tower for “dance party” decor) Last night there were floats driving one way, push units going another and random cast just strolling different ways backstage. Seems like a sloppy, unprofessional way to end these things, like when the town 4th of July parade wraps at the high school parking lot LOL

They’ve not been posting until the show goes “live” so I would expect tonight it would show up. It’s kind of annoying since each show has a dark day. Would help to know when it is when planning.

Lol. I never thought about combining them. But at that point-why not do this CRAZY thing and sell individually. Maybe even give a discount of 6 or more.

If you are going to “re-date” items to get a little more shelf life-you MIGHT want to do a better job of covering it up. Not sure if these were made 6/19, 6/20,6/22, thawed 6/23 the stickers were stacked tasted fine, but the whole thing looks sketchy S s

Those are really random quantities

Read a few posts back, and it’s been mentioned many times in the past.

… and people raked me got complaining they didn’t bring back post lighting when they redid IS a couple of years ago. Get ready for the “some people are never happy with what they get” crowd.

Why are people so in love with a gate coaster? I like that KI doesn’t play all it’s cards up front. You know what’s inside-you don’t need a coaster screaming over the front door to build excitement. If anything I feel it diminishes it. I like that international restaurant is getting a lot more use here of late-pretty much ensuring that if we do get a new entrance experience-they won’t be “opening it up” too much , and we will still get that wonderful compress and release view that Disney and KI mastered so well.

I think they are finding their stride there. Overall I feel the food is better all around once the park gets busier in that they have higher turn over-have to refresh more often, and things are generally better quality as they haven’t sat around. I don’t think they are great early in the season at judging qty and tend to sit on items too long.

Thanks for sharing a different perspective. I agree that a TON of why the show works is the nostalgia factor. I have wondered if it would have the same impact on people without the filter of that, and it sound like for you it didn’t. I also agree that the park oversold the “acts of illusion and acrobatics” a bit too much. I love the show but was a bit taken aback on preview night how song and dance it was. I was expecting a bit more “theme song of the ride underscores various cirque acts” as well. I’m not sure if I was pleasantly surprised, or just surprised by what actually made it to the stage. I agree it could’ve been a bit more of both-been longer, and actually would’ve been a show that benefitted more from a live band (even building out an orchestra “pit” that the costumed band was in and maestro rise out of) and larger cast. I b think it’s also important to remember as stated in the lobby, that this is a “different take” and an imagined vaudeville show based on the characters of the ride-not a retelling of the ride.

I hear ya, but I think they’ve been pretty clear setting the low expectations for this. I think calling it a “street party” not a parade, and not hyping it too much has been smart. I think it’s just a nice “add”. And yes, a ton of money went into the infrastructure and actual nightly run cost of FFF. I think they decided to put the bulk of 50th money on something that caps the night, and acts as a driver to keep people in the park as long as possible. There was always a mass exodus after Winterfest and Carnivale parades. I see a good number of people heading out of the park around 7 or so, but way less than before with a real reason to stay till the end that a dance party and 3 min of fireworks set to the hit Rihanna song never did.

I agree. I think it would be ok to have one show run a bit longer than the magic 25 minute mark. This could easily run 40 and not feel too long. I agree one more “act” or let the 3headliners actually perform a bit more instead of cramming it into a rushed production number that I still don’t quite get LOL. One more “dance number” wouldn’t be bad either.

I’m actually really looking forward to it.

and don’t forget-still one show to go!

Shouldn’t this go over to beast retrack thread?

Yes. Winterfest as well, And you do realize I hold HFE to a higher standard. Anything else you feel you need to “enlighten” me on? LOL