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Nobody really knows how often any ride will be closed. Unless you ask Miss Cleo. Seriously, no rides are closed regularly for maintenance like X at SFMM was. There's no telling when they will go down or come back up.

No, I wasn't really referring to any one poster in particular. What I have been reading suggests that some believe that the execs at CF haven't considered some of the things that we are discussing, like separate gate fees and a lot of other junk.

That's a loaded question. No doubt, money will be spent on new attractions. Will they still go the same route as Paramount? Only time will tell. I will say that it would be smart to keep KI moving in the same type of direction that it has been. I'm sure CF doesn't want identical parks that close to each other. Or, is this another wish list? If so, I'll take B&M for $15,000, Mr. Trebek.

^I wasn't upset. But, some people are assuming that automatically, since KI is now a CF property, BB will definitely be a separate charge. I'm saying that it's not necessarily going to happen. There are as many CF properties that do as there are that do not charge separate gates. And, there's also the assumption that the execs at CF haven't considered any of the things that we are talking about.

One of these days, I'm gonna have to make it to one of these media events. Yes, Ryan, I am jealous.

The only way that BB becomes a separate gate is IF, and this is a big IF, KI becomes a resort destination. Say it with me now...RESORT DESTINATION. Otherwise, it stays the same. It is NOT common practice for Cedar Fair to charge for separate gates. It's already been mentioned that a good portion of them do not.

Great report, Combat. Glad to hear that SOB is better than ever. I can't wait to make my first visit, which will probably be in July or August. In June, I'll be going to CP since I haven't been since 2003, when Dragster opened. I want to see how maXair and Skyhawk are.

I agree, Klockster, that Vortex will probably stay. Look how long Corkscrew has been operating at CP. Relax, people. 20 million is a lot of money to be spent on one park. Dragster and MF both cost 25 mill. a piece. You can still get a lot of rides, coasters, and improvements with 20 mill. Now, if they had said 2 million, then you could have worried.

I'm not 100% sure, but I wouldn't think that paint would affect the LIM's in the least. Magnetism is magnetism and unless there's something physical to hinder them, then I would say not.

Combat, I think that eventually King's Island will become a resort destination. Not sure if any of the other parks will follow suit. What King's Island needs is a hotel, campground, and some kind of camper village, all within reasonable distance to entrance gates.

Combat, I thought that I was the only one that liked RC.

The best advice that I was given was to start at the back of the park and make your way to the front. Last time I did this, The Beast was a walk-on in the morning as people tend to head to Action Zone first.

I wasn't sure where to post this, but are there any plans to have a PKIC day this year? I haven't been before and this year is going to be better for me than last year (as far as traveling goes).

Not sure what you mean by that considering GL is being turned around as we speak. GL has not been cast to the wayside. Quite the contrary, it is being revamped and renewed. Look at the great waterpark that they now have compared to the old waterpark. I don't believe that Boomerang Bay will be an extra charge either. Cedar Point does this because it is a resort destination. PKI is not. Maybe CF will finally build a nice hotel within walking distance.

But Shaggy, according to your own list, four of those coasters were installed at PKI first. I wasn't really referring to anything exclusive to one park. Not to mention you forgot The Bat.

Very good points, Shaggy. I never considered that popularity plays a huge roll in coaster rankings.

Sorry, but I put no stock in enthusiast polls whatsoever. Here's why. I know that many enthusiasts think that the flying coasters are boring. Yet, when I go to the parks with said coasters, people are lined up for hours.

Shaggy always comes in and straightens everyone out. I had always heard that after Stealth, the next one was to be installed at PKI and then headed north to Geauga Lake (SFWOA at the time). I hadn't heard that there was a possibility that Stealth was to be installed at PKI. When I really thought about it, that makes sense that it was to be installed at PKI first considering that most of the prototypes have gone to PKI and not other Paramount Parks.

I wouldn't bet on that. I read over on coasterbuzz that some have been on SOB and they seem to have thought that it greatly improved. And, that the jackhammering has been nearly alleviated. Also, I had a terrible ride on the Big Dipper at Geauga Lake...a very painful ride. But, that doesn't mean it's going anywhere.

AZ, I know you have much disdain for SOB, but not everyone hates that coaster. Yeah, it's kinda rough but it's supposed to be rough. What do you expect out of a wood coaster that tall? People are so spoiled these days by Intamin and B&M that they forget that not all coasters are smooth as glass. Nor are they supposed to be.

What am I saying no to? Oh, you mean, know this.

Well, you may not see it happen all in one year, but I would bet that CF will bring the park up to their standards. CF purchasing GL is a good example of a park that was acquired by CF and is definitely heading in the right direction. Although people were miffed about CF ridding themselves of the animals, it's not really what they do. Besides which, caring for animals is a very costly venture. I seem to remember KI learning that lesson years ago. The prices will not go up. Cedar Point's prices were lowered this season. Now, I think that there is no doubt that I will be purchasing a season pass where you can hop parks. I guess CF rules Ohio now.

Ahhhh, as one of the elders here, I think that an over 30 forum would be nice, but not really feasible as Ryan said. See, Ryan, you do have some wisdom at 23. At 34 and nearly 35, I find it fun to listen to some of the really early 20's kids who think that they know it all. Fortunately for me, even at 21, I did know it all. Now, I just know a whole lot more. But seriously, the mid to late 20's is when you really start taking shape into the man (or woman) that you will become. Perfect example is my life as of right now. Currently, I work at a restaurant that I worked from the age of 19 until I was 29. I hear a lot of drama and used to be all caught up in what was happening. Now, I really couldn't care less as these days I try to avoid as much drama as possible. Forunately, I just got a killer new job and will not have to listen to the drama any more.

You just summed it all up pretty easily. There are too many disrespectful patrons who do not care where they throw their trash. I'd hate to see their homes. Of course, you can probably blame their parents as well for not raising them to be respectful of others or their property.