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They would build a floorless before changing Mantis. They are still in the coaster race and they would rather up their count than just to change another coaster. Not only that, it costs like about a million dollars per train. I doubt they'll sink that much money in to an older coaster.

Well, I'm not going to bother writing what I rode ride by ride as it happened because my brother and I managed 28 laps on most all of the major coasters. Here's how it broke down: The Beast = 6 laps Son of Beast = 5 laps (It was rather smooth today) The Vortex = 5 laps Flight of Fear 4 laps Racer = 3 laps Face/Off = 2 laps IJ:ST = 2 laps (still doing the ride tickets) Adventure Express = 1 lap Top Gun: We were evacuated off the lift hill. Received exit pass which was pretty much useless since there were no lines. Decided to use it on Face/Off since it had the longest wait...20 minutes. I would much rather have been given a free drink. Of course, an exit pass doesn't cost PKI a cent. Did Scooby and the Haunted Castle - I hadn't been on this one. Pretty good fun. Can't remember score. Tried Spongebob 3D - about 1/2 way through sound messed up and we were made to leave to queue up again. Total BS, we didn't bother going back. Delirium was closed for the day. Didn't do Tomb Raider. The last ride was on SOB and we asked for a re-ride since no one was in the station. Then, the ride op said they couldn't do that for medical reasons. I'm not surprised, but it's eerie when someone says it to you. I have to say that in the past I have ranked CP employees above PKI's. This is no longer the case. Everyone was great. I felt sorry for the games employees since the crowd was so light, hardly anyone was playing games. IJ:ST, while not the fastest or tallest, is one of the best themed coasters out there. My favorite parts were the launch up the spiral and the tunnel after the helicopter. There were some good dips and turns in total darkness. Of course, since I collect On-Ride Photos, I had to get one for Italian Job. My only real complaint and it's the same everywhere, is prices for drinks. A 20 oz. Coke for $3.00? Absolutely ridiculous. Otherwise, awesome day!

Who are you saying is wrong PKIboy? I and PKI Vortex both said it wasn't that bad.

Nope, you were at the correct PKI. I don't think SOB is half as bad as some would like to make it out as.

"it certainly didn't have much drawing power, because if I remember correctly, attendance that season didn't jump a considerable amount." Well, that was largely due in part to the fact that it was not open a whole lot the first season. It's easy to say it was a huge mistake in hindsight. Now, when PKI was going to build SOB, the now SOB haters were probably all about it until after they rode it. Hindsight is always 20/20.

I love coffee. But, there isn't anything like hot coffee on a hot summer day. LOL.

It is the same coaster that was discussed over at Coasterbuzz. The coaster is real as well as the other ride. Could it be Old Man Withers Haunted Amusement Park?

Well, I'm ready to know what it is that PKI has in store for us next season. In the meantime, I am going to enjoy this season and my up and coming trip this Wednesday.

Yes Dan, I read your post. I also stated twice to take Screamscape rumors with a grain of salt as they are often wrong. As a matter of fact, it was in my very first post. Or, did you read?

Shaggy. The man has never left the 60's, even in the newer movies.

It's definitely the trains. There's a lot of shuffling as it navigates the course.

^You mean the one with the MTV Soundwave, Titanic, Spongebob Car Wash? Or, the one with other Top Guns? They all kinda run together.

Actually, SF maintenance at SFGadv, from what I understand, is doing a good job over the last couple of years. Or, are you just gonna make a blanket statment about the whole chain? There's no reason that SFGadv shouldn't install a new woodie, record breaking or not. Or, is it that you just read or heard that SF maintenance doesn't do a very good job?

Yeah, obviously people don't want height or speed any more. That's why Kingda Ka was built.

A lot of Screamscape's news is old as well. As of 5/30, they reported that a couple of riders who were injured on Dragster are now suing CP. I heard that same thing about a month ago at Coasterbuzz.

Buying floorless trains would be a complete waste. It would be like riding Raptor with no inversions...Boring. It would not be a good return on investment either seeing how they just replaced a train within the last few seasons.

The thing is Joker, you don't know. You don't work for Intamin and you have not been on Balder, so, if you're done being an expert....

Boddah, can't you admit that maybe with Intamin's new design, it could negate SOB's problems? You guys are so hell bent on it will never work that you haven't even thought that maybe the technology is now there. For the longest time, no one thought that the 200ft. mark set by Magnum XL200 would ever be broken.

Like CombatStupendous said, the whole point of inverts are for the inversions. Other than a loop, what else could be done with a wooden invert? I surely don't see the feasability of a Cobra Roll, a Bat Wing, a Corkscrew, an Immelman or Diving Loop. Besides, making a working model and working one out with a computer program that can define the G Forces is two totally different things. No park is going to listen to their idea. They would need to work for a roller coaster desinging company first. They had better have a computer program proving that their idea would be within the G Force Limitations, not to mention stress on the track itself.

Well, whether you guys want to believe it or not, it IS confirmed that SFGADV is building a wooden coaster next year. I don't know if it will break any records and neither does anyone else as the stats of the ride have not been released. "On the other hand, it goes to show what monkeys are running Six Flags if they want to recreate our mistakes by building hyper-woodies." But, you've never been on an Intamin Woodie and neither have most if not all people here. It is supposed to be THE smoothest wood coaster around. If Intamin can make a hyper woodie and it is rideable, then it can't be a mistake.

It will be designed by Intamin, but they work closely with another foreign manufacurer of laminated wood track that assembles more like a steel coaster. Here's the link to Intamin's web site....Intamin World Wide They have already built one coaster, It's called Colossos at Heide Park. Here's the link to pics from RCDB...colossos Supposedly, it is one of the smoothest wood coasters around.

Another update from screamscape. It appears that HB Land is the suspected removal of its' characters...Hanna Barberra

Oh, they have imagination. It's the money that kept it the way it is. Both TTD and KK cost 25 mill, but one is larger. How can this be? Well, a shorter launch and a dual loading station. I have read reviews and there is air time on that bunny hill. The brakes don't really kick in until about half way down.

Someone mentioned this yesterday on Coasterbuzz. Remember when PKI was claiming that Water Works was in its' last year? People thought that they were totally removing the water park, which didn't happen. They also went on to say that they could be gutting Flight of Fear and doing the re-theme to MTV Soundwave. That would explain a ride removal of sorts, only to open as a new attraction. Not saying this will happen, but it makes you wonder. That was you specailk? I read over your post yesterday here and read your post over at coasterbuzz.

Well, until I hear an announcement, I'm not going to believe any of the HW rumors. Back to PKI, could it be an old flat or two are being retired?