RailRider Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Profit doesn't mater this year, but continued commonwealth funding does. 4 Quote
thekidd33 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Saw my first Kentucky Kingdom billboard on the northside of Indy today, as well as the first TV spot on Hulu of all places. 4 Quote
Magenta Lizard Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 What about Ohioans? $15 a day is just about the price point where I start considering a trip down there just to rubberneck at the train wreck. 10 Quote
silver2005 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Ed Hart said he wouldn't be advertising in Cincinnati in one of the articles Terpy posted, reasoning that he didn't feel great tip toeing into KI's primary market. I doubt you'll see ads in the greater Cincinnati area (possibly including northern KY and SE Indiana). 5 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Given what happened the last time Kentucky Kingdom tried to compete against Kings Island (Can you say $35 million Action Zone expansion, after which SIX moved its money and attention to Six Flags Ohio/Worlds of Adventure?).... 10 Quote
Gabe Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 To further muddy the waters, the print coupon in the IndyStar does not require proof of Indiana residency. Plus, today's paper featured a bigger color ad (1/4 page) than yesterday's did. So, if you get your coupon off the website, you must show an Indiana drivers license; if you use the print coupon, the sky's the limit. Oh, and the free second day must be used the day after the paid day. This is turning into the Krusty the Clown show. 7 Quote
jsus Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 To further muddy the waters, the print coupon in the IndyStar does not require proof of Indiana residency. Plus, today's paper featured a bigger color ad (1/4 page) than yesterday's did. So, if you get your coupon off the website, you must show an Indiana drivers license; if you use the print coupon, the sky's the limit. Oh, and the free second day must be used the day after the paid day. This is turning into the Krusty the Clown show. Don't expect enforcement to be any different on those paper coupons. They very may well have inadvertently omitted that line but attempt to verify proof of residency anyway. Given some stories we've heard this year, that would hardly surprise me. 6 Quote
silver2005 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Part of me is sort of thinking (though its a big stretch) that KK is just really cutting it close on testing T3 in their hopes of opening it on 5/30, but another part of me believes we're going to see the park in a bind that day when (in all likelihood) it won't open despite their boasts. Have some popcorn ready people. 8 Quote
thekidd33 Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 I know the park has put out media day info to various outlets about T3's opening. Quote
Oldiesmann Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 2014 was a "smashing success"? Really? Less than 700,000 visitors isn't what I would call a "smashing success" - especially when you have parks like KI drawing millions each season. And only 2 hours from Indy - so is another park that The Kingdom isn't even trying to compete with (because they can't?). Hart is going to have to reach much further than Indy if he expects to meet out-of-state-visitor attendance goals. I may very well stop by there on the way back from Holiwood Nights next weekend just to get whatever coaster credits I can before the park shuts down again. 5 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 20, 2015 Posted May 20, 2015 Two days for less than $30. Value. One must assume the park has priced the experience at the most dinerio obtainable. Sad. Truly...sad. 3 Quote
The Interpreter Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 ...and proof of Tennessee residence.... http://www.tennessean.com/story/insider/deals/2015/05/20/kentucky-kingdom-discount/27674011/ 3 Quote
silver2005 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 This all the while the park maintains an online price of $39.95, $49.95 at the gate. I kind of wish I were able and willing to go for media day with the possibility of no T3 just to see how its pitched by the park and how that is interpreted by the media. Then go on the 30th to see the GP's reaction. 6 Quote
Imperial79 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 That first sentence is jaw dropping! I can't believe they actually wrote that. 'Kentucky Kingdom is a wonderful success story' uhh... 3 Quote
Oldiesmann Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 ...and proof of Tennessee residence.... http://www.tennessean.com/story/insider/deals/2015/05/20/kentucky-kingdom-discount/27674011/ But only if you subscribe to that paper apparently (or at least know someone who subscribes). Quote
Aaron88stang Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Ed Hart said he wouldn't be advertising in Cincinnati in one of the articles Terpy posted, reasoning that he didn't feel great tip toeing into KI's primary market. I doubt you'll see ads in the greater Cincinnati area (possibly including northern KY and SE Indiana). Given what happened the last time Kentucky Kingdom tried to compete against Kings Island (Can you say $35 million Action Zone expansion, after which SIX moved its money and attention to Six Flags Ohio/Worlds of Adventure?).... That would seem to be one of Ed's more sound business decisions then...second of course to buying Lightning Run. 3 Quote
Oldiesmann Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Even considering what happened last time, it doesn't make much sense to me that they'd ignore a major market. How many people in this area actually know that Kentucky Kingdom is still open? 1 Quote
shark6495 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 I would guess very few even remember/know about the park. Even fewer know that it is open. 1 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Even considering what happened last time, it doesn't make much sense to me that they'd ignore a major market. How many people in this area actually know that Kentucky Kingdom is still open? I see your point, but I guess it would come down to how many people they could actually draw from the market with KI so close. I live about the same distance to both parks, a little closer to KK. I have a pass to both for variety's sake. However, if I lived near Cincy, I would spend way more time at KI(and purchase a dining plan) and probably visit KK once a year like I currently do Holiday World. If Hart doesn't think he will draw much from KI's market and will potentially cause investment in KI that will further hurt his numbers, then not advertising there makes sense. It's a gamble either way I suppose so I don't think the lack of advertising in that market is a blunder. 4 Quote
rhyano Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 i know most people wanted the park back, but at least they can do, is give it much better management, and be wise with the amount of rides you put in, it is just like what Dennis Speigel once said at CoasterStock rule of thumb of what you add! 3 Quote
Gabe Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 More hubris from today's IndyStar-a full page color ad splashed across the back page of the front section of the paper. The opening paragraph mentions that KK Is the "fastest growing park in the U.S." and has "risen to international prominence". Talk about an inflated sense of self worth. 11 Quote
thekidd33 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 ^I hope they are remembering to get the postal codes of all their international visitors! 9 Quote
RailRider Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 More hubris from today's IndyStar-a full page color ad splashed across the back page of the front section of the paper. The opening paragraph mentions that KK Is the "fastest growing park in the U.S." and has "risen to international prominence". Talk about an inflated sense of self worth. That is hilarious. Then again to go from 0 guests in 2013 to about 600,000 in 2014. That is some serious growth. 11 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Marketing most of the time is saying exactly what you can get away with legally...0-600,000 guests year over year...That makes their claim probably "technically" true...sounds good to the dumb masses, er GP, but certainly laughable to those of us that follow the industry a little closer than your average park goer. Hopefully for the parks sake they can make a similar claim next year. I'm not holding my breath but I wish them well as I really want to ride a remodeled Twisted Twins in 2016. 3 Quote
silver2005 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 So if we're going to see this Twisted Twins re-do for 2016, shouldn't we see work being started already? Rehab work on a woodie, let alone two of them, takes a long time. 5 Quote
Oldiesmann Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 Considering they don't even know if they'll be open yet next year... 5 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 It seems like they have their hands full with T3 currently... 9 Quote
Dieseltech20 Posted May 21, 2015 Posted May 21, 2015 So if we're going to see this Twisted Twins re-do for 2016, shouldn't we see work being started already? Rehab work on a woodie, let alone two of them, takes a long time. The twin tracks of Twisted Colossus were done in about 9 months. 1 Quote
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