upstop Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 With most, the load ops who are required to press a button do so in tandem with the driver. If the buttons are not pushed simultaniously, the ride will not start. Kind of like NORAD...lol...is this also the e-stop I often hear about....release the button and the ride stops or is that something else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 With most, the load ops who are required to press a button do so in tandem with the driver. If the buttons are not pushed simultaniously, the ride will not start. Kind of like NORAD...lol...is this also the e-stop I often hear about....release the button and the ride stops or is that something else. Something else. EStop is a red button that, if pressed, stops the cycle/motors completely. When a ride is e-stopped, it must have it's systems completely re-set by maintenance before it can be re-started. If a coaster is e-stopped, the lift motors stop and brakes engage. If a cycle ride is e-stopped, the motors shut off completely typically locking a gondola in place or allowing it to settle back to a resting point. If a water-rapids attraction is e-stopped, the pumps shut off and the water drains to the lowest part of the course while boats settle to the bottom of the water trough. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Something else. EStop is a red button that, if pressed, stops the cycle/motors completely. When a ride is e-stopped, it must have it's systems completely re-set by maintenance before it can be re-started. If a coaster is e-stopped, the lift motors stop and brakes engage. If a cycle ride is e-stopped, the motors shut off completely typically locking a gondola in place or allowing it to settle back to a resting point. If a water-rapids attraction is e-stopped, the pumps shut off and the water drains to the lowest part of the course while boats settle to the bottom of the water trough. Thank you! Something new to learn everyday!!! Wow...that is a lot of responsibility for a young person to have in addition to restraining passengers and storing carry-on stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Is it open yet? According to the KD Facebook page, it's not open yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 All this downtime makes me hope that B&M will continue to make gigas. If I remember correctly, they were against making anything higher than 300ft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Whatever floats your boat. If I have to settle for a b&M giga at KI hopefully b&m gets away from their bulky track and bulky trains and make a ride that has agility with quick transitions instead of a ride that resembles a bodybuilder walking.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I don't get what you are saying I am sorry. How do B&M's coasters look like these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 He is saying he really really really really really likes Inatmin rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I am saying due to the bulky track/trains its basically impossible to have quick transitions. I use the bodybuilder reference in regards to big guys walking really stiff and no agility. Not a knock to b&m just my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browntggrr Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I don't get what you are saying I am sorry. How do B&M's coasters look like these? Perhaps he prefers the banana hammocks? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 In reference to above post: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I would much rather have a giga coaster made by intamin, but have Steel dragon 2000 B&M trains with Banshee style restraints would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Case and point: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Case in point of this thread: For the past month or so that picture is as thrilling as the coaster itself! Meanwhile 1,000's of laps have been had on all other B &M's! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 That is what is great about america. We all have our opinions. Personally I can only do 3 laps at most on Diamondback(last two visits) and have to get off cause I am bored. The above pic I can look at more than 3x in a day without getting bored What I meant about the bulkiness of the trains/track is that it has limitaitions to what it can do. I don't think the current track/trains are capable of a maverick type layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 meanwhile, the person standing there at the park, looking at the ride SBNO is bored most of all.... SBNO, no matter the designer does nobody any favors. I can look at a picture all day, no picture has ever provided me "the best day of my summer" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 That is what is great about america. We all have our opinions. Personally I can only do 3 laps at most on Diamondback(last two times) and have to get off cause I am bored. The above pic I can look at more than 3x in a day without getting bored What I meant about the bulkiness of the trains/track is that it has limitaitions to what it can do. I don't think the current track/trains are capable of a maverick type layout. But DB could be running if the park was open! Now, I will agree with you that Intamin has the coolest looking track. I have always loved how their track takes different shapes depending on the angle you are looking at it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 besides the coolest looking track, but I really don't think b&m's current trains/track is capable of such extreme angles and quick transitions without tearing their track/trains apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I really don't think b&m's current trains/track is capable of such extreme angles Oh they can bend it into any shape they want Lols 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 besides the coolest looking track, but I really don't think b&m's current trains/track is capable of such extreme angles and quick transitions without tearing their track/trains apart. Since we have not seen a Maverick type ride from B&M before you might be right? Makes you wonder.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Is raging bull the most twisted track on a b&m besides obvious zero g's and wing overs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I really don't think b&m's current trains/track is capable of such extreme angles Oh they can bend it into any shape they want Lols With or without the same reliability they have now?? If they know they are not going to be as reliable then I bet they don't even want to go down that road! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTW Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 I've always wondered if they could make a mini version of their track and sit riders in rows of two to achieve tighter transitions and elements. I realize some BM coasters such as Diamondback sit two to a row but those rows take up a ton of space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Here's the thing they could do it if they wanted, however when B&M design rides, what are their desires out of the ride. Look at any of their interviews....Mr Bolliger always usually goes into detail explaining how they removed vibration, or made the ride smooth, or reliable here, ect. Those are their main points and focuses on coasters, I always keep hearing things about vibrations and how smooth the coaster is at speed (especially interviews for Levi). Going outside their comfort zone, I'm sure they could do this, the box section track can handle dive loops, twists, ect, all they have to do is intensify the angle, curves, ect, and the box track follows it. Good examples of this are inline twists and inverted loops on say Raptor, you can see how the box section track follows the rails. They can do it, but will they choose to on future ride designs, I doubt it, because that's now their business approach for building coasters. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIVortex Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Okay I must be remembering the fact that they never fully loaded the ride! That is probably what I'm thinking about during the Paramount Days. Then Cedar Fair removed the row for the transformation into The Crypt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoF96" Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Open a theme park with only Intamin and Huss rides, and call it Tumbleweed, because thats all that would be moving at that park. Hey. Some huss rides are very reliable, just not the giant ones. Rainbow that used to be at Kentucky kingdom seemed to be open all the time as well as the ship and enterprise. Even look at Kings Island, we have a troika that seems to have a heart of steel. Breakdance is a very fun an generally reliable ride. But I guess all this was before they were bought out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 Time Machine is SBNO The reference is a joke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 That's the ONLY defunct B&M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Time Machine has been tested and is still operational within the last month or so. I wouldnt call that defunct. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creed Bratton Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Time Machine has been tested within the last month? Any proof of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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