elyk Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 My bad, I remembered reading that statement somewhere on the internet. I guess it wasnt true. Edit: it was a reliable source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCrypt Posted August 15, 2013 Share Posted August 15, 2013 I highly doubt Six Flags would let such a big investment go so soon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 http://www.theindychannel.com/news/u-s-world/six-flags-to-reopen-texas-ride-where-woman-died Texas Giant will be reopening this weekend. They have added new padding to the restraint bar and added seatbelts that will restrict people with "unique body shapes or sizes" from riding. The result of an investigation reported no mechanical malfunction on the ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Wow, didn't think I'd see this happen this season, I wonder if there will be any reaction from the industry moving forward in regards to restraint design, limitations to body sizes, ect. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncars05 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Wow, didn't think I'd see this happen this season, I wonder if there will be any reaction from the industry moving forward in regards to restraint design, limitations to body sizes, ect. Good questions. My thoughts are the industry might start intentionally putting seatbelts or other type of restraints that exclude people with unique body sizes from riding more often. It will be interesting to see what happens from here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I guess the belts will be a certain lenght like was implemented to the intamin open air trains? If you canf fasten yourself you out? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 A one million dollar lawsuit has also been filed by the victims family. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/52978022#.UjCYmG2NdVg For better or worse, I feel that some changes are looming for the industry. "It’s not a first time problem for Six Flags. It’s not a first time problem for the amusement industry, and they seemed to be more involved with providing more thrills than they do safety," said Branson. Ouch “These changes certainly are a step in the right direction. But it’s a shame it took yet another death on yet another Six Flag rollercoaster to prompt Six Flags to make basic safety changes,” he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaggy Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 "It will now offer a roller coaster seat on the ride line for riders to judge for themselves in advance if they fit." Isn't this poor grammar? Seriously, journalists need better proof readers these days. The park will now offer a roller coaster test seat to riders wating in line so they may judge, for themselves, if they'll fit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 People cannot make rational decisions on their own however. Make the belts the length of MF and TTD and call it a day. If you can't attach the seat belt, its best if you not ride. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2000 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 Not that the media always gets things right, but according to this article, there was a malfunction with the security safety light system http://www.fox19.com/story/23400995/giant-lawsuit-filed-against-six-flags-over-texas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondbacker27 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I am pretty large in size (height/weight) 6'5" 265LBS. I have been on several coasters that I hear that "click" several times. With that being said, I have experienced myself, having my lap bar comfortable (at least two clicks) but I have a little room for comfort. Then the ride op comes by and shoves down on the restraint even more. This makes it uncomfortable to some extent. Hearing this sad and tragic story, makes me glad they do it. On Inverdgo, a Ride op, didn't even check my OTSR, and it was a bit loose. If you tried to get her attention she just ignored me..Same thing happened to me on Drop Zone. If you watch them, they don't even check half the riders OTSRs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 ^ Hopefully mr. Helbig sees this post and can adress things with the supes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Push down lightly and pull up twice. Thats how we were told to do it at Carowinds. Most seatbelts can be undone by visitors, is a panicking visitor always going to be rational if the lapbar "fails*" *a visitor thinks that it is not working properly. A lapbar check will catch a lapbar that doesnt properly lock. It does happen, I seen it, we Always took the proper action. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Yahoo article on the Lawsuit http://gma.yahoo.com/family-sues-six-flags-womans-fall-14-story-120105611--abc-news-topstories.html Interesting note from the article The T-shaped lap bar that was supposed to restrain riders didn't work properly, according to the suit. The lawsuit states that inspections done on the roller coasters after Esparza's death "showed that various parts of the security systems on the ride were experiencing inconsistencies and intermittent failures." After the incident, Six Flags replaced a "limit switch," an indicator that shows the safety bar is in place, in the car Esparza was riding in because amusement park staff "found the switch to be defective," according to the lawsuit. I haven't seen the official report on the incident to verify these quotes, I would assume journalistic integrity? (for what that is worth anymore) but these issues that are reported are quite interesting to say the least. Shame that such a tragedy had to happen if it were preventable, then we must question a new coaster company and the possibility of them not having fully developed their safety policies for their rides. Just things to consider and question when an event like this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungStud Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 If that WAS true, would that be a gerstlauer problem? I feel that all coasters should have belts like mf/ttd that if you can't fasten yourself your out. Guest may complain but its the best thing for safety, Almost all coaster incidents are from riders with unusual body proportions. Weight shifting is a issue. I would hate for ejector air to be banned from coasters and only have floater air instead. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Push down lightly and pull up twice. Thats how we were told to do it at Carowinds. Most seatbelts can be undone by visitors, is a panicking visitor always going to be rational if the lapbar "fails*" *a visitor thinks that it is not working properly. A lapbar check will catch a lapbar that doesnt properly lock. It does happen, I seen it, we Always took the proper action. I question the ability of some people to properly check lap bars. I know I have ridden many rides where the lap bar check was a 1-2 finger lift on the bar (thinking Beast and Racers).... I always appreciated the FoF crew for pushing down and yanking up. If that WAS true, would that be a gerstlauer problem? I feel that all coasters should have belts like mf/ttd that if you can't fasten yourself your out. Guest may complain but its the best thing for safety, Almost all coaster incidents are from riders with unusual body proportions. Weight shifting is a issue. I would hate for ejector air to be banned from coasters and only have floater air instead. I agree with this statement. By adding a belt, it helps keep the people who are on the shorter/taller/lighter/bigger side from having an accident. I may not like certain rides, but I wouldnt want any type of ride transition to be banned when a "simple" fix or addition can keep people safe... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upstop Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 "It will now offer a roller coaster seat on the ride line for riders to judge for themselves in advance if they fit." Isn't this poor grammar? Seriously, journalists need better proof readers these days. The park will now offer a roller coaster test seat to riders wating in line so they may judge, for themselves, if they'll fit. Not only is it poor grammar, it was released to the world by the AP. "Hey you guys!" should have been placed at the beginning of the original sentence, to fit the demographics....LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 "It will now offer a roller coaster seat on the ride line for riders to judge for themselves in advance if they fit." Isn't this poor grammar? Seriously, journalists need better proof readers these days. The park will now offer a roller coaster test seat to riders wating in line so they may judge, for themselves, if they'll fit. Not only is it poor grammar, it was released to the world by the AP. "Hey you guys!" should have been placed at the beginning of the original sentence, to fit the demographics....LOL Im not going to argue too much with yall on grammar issues, but dont forget that the AP has its own style book. It is completely different than "normal" grammar. They have certain rules for comma use etc. For example all verbs must be present tense or present perfect (goes/has gone), no commas before conjunctions, etc etc etc 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dieseltech20 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 Bad Grammar or not, I understood the sentence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamondback FOF Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/flags-denies-liability-roller-coaster-death-20585577 Court documents indicate Six Flags denies any liability in the death of a rider on one of its roller coasters in part because it was not the manufacturer or designer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Six better hope all of their maintenance and service logs have every i dotted and t crossed if they are going with this argument. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 So in other words, Six is saying the fault lies with either the patron who fell or the manufacturer/designer of the coaster or perhaps a combination of both? Like railrider says, they better have their maintanence logs in prime order. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 The other interesting fact about this case is that the park conducted their own internal accident investigation. There were no outside parties brought in on this investigation rather an inhouse review of what happened. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/metro/20130720-investigation-of-texas-giant-accident-to-be-led-by-six-flags.ece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Does Texas not have as strict a dept of oversite like CA/NJ/OH? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 In a word: no. Nor does Florida. In Florida, large parks police themselves with no state oversight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedevariouseffect Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Wow, very surprising... I wonder what would have happened if they did have oversite like up in NJ...state is crazy with their regs, very impressive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Like Terpy said, No. The state regulator, which is the Texas Department of Insurance, main concern is that the rides are inspected and insured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 In a word: no. Nor does Florida. In Florida, large parks police themselves with no state oversight. Like Terpy said, No. The state regulator, which is the Texas Department of Insurance, main concern is that the rides are inspected and insured. Wow, that is surprising! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Im not going to lie, this incident was in the back of my mind when riding rides at KI the other night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 Claims made in a lawsuit tell only one side of a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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